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Author	Topic: How to stop fighting with an earth sign
babeefoxx unregistered	posted April 21, 2007 04:46 PM So I find my self constantly getting into quarrels with all earth signs(mostly just Taurus and Virgo). I try and let it go, and brush it off and they never forget it. Even when I apologize and take the blame they still don't budge. I've been kind of fighting with my Aries' friend's sister. The whole thing was just a misunderstanding and she started mocking me and saying things/spreading rumors.(a Taurus)This was over a year ago and I think as my friend's sister, we should makes things right. Any advise? Also, Me and my Virgo boy are very alike, yet we disagree on many things and they often blow up into verbal fights. Not name calling just arguing. I really try to put my self in his position and see things the Virgo way, but he never tries to see my Aries' sun's big picture. How can I help him understand and see eye to eye with me? Thanks in advance for any advice you have to offer. I'm fed up and confused! IP: Logged
MoonDreamer81 unregistered	posted April 21, 2007 04:56 PM well I as a Taurus can tell you...we are Stubborn as hell!!And when we think we're right,we're right,end of story!As far as Virgo...I'm just now starting to understand them(got a crush on one...),but they are ruled by Mercury,so I guess if it is badly aspected there could be communication problems!Good luck to ya! ------------------ S:Taurus ASC:Gemini M:Scorpio IP: Logged
MelanieB unregistered	posted April 22, 2007 03:27 PM Wish I could offer some advice. I was going to post a similar question. My hubby is a Bull, and when he gets mad, he just completely ignores me. He got mad at me yesterday because I was a little under the weather and the kids were hanging on him. He couldn't get anything done. (they hang on him even if I'm feeling ok too) I calmly tried to console him and said I never get all I want to get done either, it will only be for a little while then they won't want to bother with us. Then he got mad at my daughter because she was supposed to be home at 6 and only came home at 6:30. He told her to get to bed and grounded her for two weeks. Well, I wanted her to do some chores for me since she was gone all day and I didn't feel up to it. Well he had a bird. He got a shower and said he is leaving and he is not bothering with a garden this year, he will pick up some hobbies I won't like since we have to defy him and went out the door. He came in at 1 am and hasn't spoke to me today. If I ask him a question he just ignores me. The bummer is his birthday is Wednesday and I ordered him a cake from his favorite bakery. So I just wonder why they have to act like that too. It is so hurtful. I am getting really sick of it. So I wish you good luck. At least you don't have to live with them. (the Taurus) lol Melanie IP: Logged
Motherkonfessor unregistered	posted April 22, 2007 04:36 PM The problem with arguing with a Virgo is that no matter how good your position is, no matter how many facts you have to back it up, a Virgo ALWAYS thinks they are right. I can say this because I am a Virgo. Appeal to the Virgo's inherent sense of decorum. Use your emotions ie... tell him it is hurting your feelings that he cannot at least acknowledge your side. Give him details. Don't expect him to change his mind- but if you can agree to disagree, this may be the only way to make peace. And- no, an earth sign never forgets. They might forgive- but never ever forget. MK IP: Logged
Node Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 22, 2007 04:52 PM Does having 6 planets in fixed signs make me a granite wall with titanium mixed in the mortar? No, a very stubborn No! What works in a stalemate with me is the voice of reason. Either my own voice, or somebody elses voice when I'm being a pain in the Azz. Does being right or being wrong solve the problem? Does shutting the other person out, and not communicating -solve the problem? If it is a Taurus walk towards them, get close. Look them in the eye and say, "I need a hug." "By the looks of you, you need a hug too." Don't just hug and release. Stay there. Hold on. Whisper something nice, and something honest. It has to come from the heart. The Taurus will melt like an ice cream cone in summer. Quaranteed. Taurus- Sun, Venus, Mercury, Scorpio Neptune Leo- Uranus, Pluto IP: Logged
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4416 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 22, 2007 05:37 PM I think the best advice I could give is to pay attention to older Aries. Older Aries kind of walk the line. They're excited to press forward, but I think they realize that other people have practicalities that Aries aren't all that interested in. You talk about the Aries big picture, but do you realize all the practical details that go into completing a big picture? I have a lot of experience with Aries (my dad, two of my sisters, my roommate of 6 years, and my boss for the last year. I had an Aries girlfriend for a bit a while back as well). As far as I can tell it's often a matter of practicality when it comes to people arguing with Aries. People try to keep Aries from making mistakes that only occur because Aries won't get into the nitty-gritty reality of a problem or issue. (Virgos are all about getting into that nitty-gritty by the way.) IP: Logged
babeefoxx unregistered	posted April 22, 2007 06:03 PM Of course I pay attention to the detail, I can't do antyhing but that because I am dealing with a Virgo. I meant big picture as in trying to deal with the issue at once. Addressing it as a whole instead of all these different unnecessary aspects. I always have to lay out each problem, significant or not, and try and pick at each one individually(for his sake). It takes a lot of time. And me, with my big 3 (Aries sun/Libra asc/cancer moon) try and make everything go away at once, try and balance the situation as in saying, example, "You hurt me too, and I forgive you, and I hope that you forgive me. " If his response isn't positive, I become absolutely crushed. The next day he is very quiet and I try to focus our conversation on better things. The other day he was telling me our arguments were getting old and I agreed. I'm completely up in arms. IP: Logged
Dani California Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 23, 2007 02:13 PM I'm so tempted to just say - let them win, hahahahaha!! Especially if its a taurus you're arguing with, they are stubborn as hell!! I'm a gemini by the way!! IP: Logged
lotusheartone unregistered	posted April 23, 2007 02:19 PM I think stubborness is often confused with persistence and determination!? IP: Logged
Dani California Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 23, 2007 02:25 PM Yes, this is true in some cases, definitely!! IP: Logged
Tanae unregistered	posted April 23, 2007 06:17 PM WOW... Even if that was the only issue between a Virgin and a Bull, it still would be MORE than enough!!! You know it is somewhat true that Virgo's ARE always right... but that's ONLY because we analyze things and break them down to their simplest form and least common denominator, until we are able to find something from it that makes us RIGHT!!! But low and behold any attempt to be right over a Bull!!! It would almost be like a Kindegarten teacher (Virgo), in a disagreement with one of its pupils (Aries). Let's just say, she'd better place an order in to ACME now for a great big box of rulers, because they'll each have one in hand and be ready to swat the other, before either of them would ever dream of conceding. ------------------ Tanae' Asc: Libra Sun: Virgo Moon:Capricorn IP: Logged
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4416 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 23, 2007 10:31 PM You can't have persistence and determination without stubborness. quote: I'm so tempted to just say - let them win, hahahahaha!! No kidding! IP: Logged
lotusheartone unregistered	posted April 23, 2007 10:38 PM why not, AG? IP: Logged
babeefoxx unregistered	posted April 23, 2007 10:51 PM You can have persistence and determination without stubborness(unless you're an earth sign). I've got a Libra rise, mind you, so i'm not always chattering and blabbering. I'm all about peace, harmony and equality. I do try and settle the arguments most of the time and I say I handle myself well. I just want my Virgo to zip it when it comes to the detais! I guess you are right, Dani. I hate that though! I got a Cancer moon. I'll beat the dead horse until its settled, not forgotten. I love your Gemini enthusiasm though! IP: Logged
lotusheartone unregistered	posted April 23, 2007 10:56 PM my sun is in taurus, my ascending is libra, my moon is in scorpio... I think of stubbornness as illogical and lacking common sense...I see persistence and determination as something you have with logic and common sense...facts, that is why you persist. ... my ten cents inflation, lol IP: Logged
CoralFrequency Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009	posted April 23, 2007 11:07 PM quote: I just want my Virgo to zip it when it comes to the detais! Try to ignore it.. Don't pay too much attention to it. The more you tell someone not to do something, the more self-conscious they become.. so they end up doing it more. IP: Logged
MoonDreamer81 unregistered	posted April 23, 2007 11:17 PM Stubbornness and determination are just 2 sides of the same coin!Its all a matter of perspective. ------------------ S:Taurus ASC:Gemini M:Scorpio IP: Logged
InLoveWithLife unregistered	posted April 23, 2007 11:26 PM Not all earth signs are stubborn...cappies are quite rational....they just don't like to openly accept that they were wrong. but they won't argue. (too much of a waste of time....better things to do than to prove they r right) IP: Logged
lotusheartone unregistered	posted April 23, 2007 11:27 PM oh yes, two sides to a coin. ... and everything. ... IP: Logged
izodesmozina unregistered	posted April 24, 2007 12:31 AM Here's something from my life experience: don't fight with them! Be nice, VERY nice, explain your point of view with a really calm voice, say "thank you for your opinion, I appreciated", "I will take your suggestion into consideration" etc. They won't know what hit them! My mother is an extremely stubborn Taurus (has rising and most her planets in fixed signs) and she was speechless when I started talking to her like that. She was just... numb! She said... "ok" and the fight was over! I am an Aries Sun, so yeah, I can understand why earth signs are a pain in some part of your body. But I also have a Cappy Moon&rising, so I can (sometimes) understand where they're coming from. At the end of the day, everybody wants their point of view acknowledged and appreciated. Give them that and your headache will be less serious (otherwise the fight will never be over). And guys, you CAN win arguments with Virgos! You just have to be just as crazy about insignificant details as they are (and I am). I appreciate that they admit you are right if you PROVE it to them logically, step by step. Never say it can't be done! IP: Logged
Dani California Newflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 24, 2007 10:53 AM Babeefoxx!! Thanks, I like my gemini enthusiasm too. I have the moon in libra though, so y'know ,peace at any cost............ And I hear ya on the cancer thing, I have Venus in cancer and I can hold on to an argument as well. We don't like to let go............. IP: Logged
Passionate Pisces022586 unregistered	posted April 24, 2007 10:54 AM ask politely way they think they are right.. if they dont let up to being wrong... tell them they are right,... and know in your heart they are wrong!!!!! The only way believe me... Iam in advocate to letting justice prevail and Ive been known to argue for hours and hours trying to prevail my thoughts that i believed to be true. Ive noticed that some people won't admit to being wrong, so you just have to leave it alone and move on with your own life. And let them move on with theirs. P.S. Ive noticed that when I disagree with an earth sign their voice raises and they get very defensive very fast. I find this so irritating. Its almost like they can't talk in a regular voice and disagree at the same time. This is just my experiences so please no one get upset. Its just what i've noticed from those around me. ------------------ Ascendent Capricorn Moon Virgo 8th house Sun Pisces 1st house Venus Pisces 2nd house Mercury Pisces 2nd house Jupiter Pisces 1st house Mars Sagittarius 11th Uranus Sagittarius 11th Saturn Sagittarius 10th Neptune Capricorn 12th PlutoConjunctMC Scorpio IP: Logged
Lynx Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009	posted April 24, 2007 05:58 PM Just tell them they are so wonderful and humble . Compliment them several times a day. Agree with them constantly. Afterall, just because they won the argument doesn't mean they've actually won. IP: Logged
babeefoxx unregistered	posted April 24, 2007 07:29 PM That was some really good advise izodesmozina and PassionatePisces. I've been trying to get those nooks and crannies when I try and explain my point of view, it's kinda hard doing that as an Aries, a fire sign let alone. Thanks for all of your help and opinions though !! IP: Logged
Atlenta unregistered	posted April 25, 2007 03:47 AM My brother is an earth sign and he's usually the one to stop an argument . Taurus when mad shuts off verbally. they prefer venting on physical things. Like tear paper, focus on other things or just plain ignore. When they're angry they might do something else to hurt out of resentment. My friend is an Aries and she's always quarelling with her virgoan dad and says he's bloody irritating. The way i see it is, Aries hate to be bossed, not even told what to do. So, they do the opposite of what they are told, and virgo, not understanding why, tries to reason patiently, which aries views as not respecting her individuality. So the argument goes on based on lack of understanding on both sides. I think the way to stop it is to understand where they're coming from - and reflect their characteristic back at them. For Taurus, stop an argument by ignoring them. It settles it and calms the raging bull. For Virgo, don't feel threatened by their intention to help. They're sometimes critical or might give unsolicited advice, but that's what they're inclined to do when they care. Instead of ignoring them or shutting them out (which might hurt them) use their reasoning techniques back at them. Explain to them why things bother you the way they do, and make sure they understand it (as what izo said ). IP: Logged

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