posted April 24, 2007 12:03 AM            

There is a small cluster of water sign males (sorry you happened to meet three of them in a row).. They have a problem with women and they constantly try to shadow box and cause hurt.

Now they will not do this if you overtly seem to have a problem.
They have a checklist.. overweight? Nope.. anorexic? Nope.. drug addict? Nope.. prostitute? Nope.. striper? Nope.. abused in childhood? Nope… cuts herself? Nope.. Ugly? Nope.. Suicide attempts? Zero.

Then they think: "wow I finally found someone I can take all the anger I’ve ever suppressed.. out ON.. and *not* feel guilty about it muahahahaha"

posted April 24, 2007 03:22 AM            

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You might be right about the water sign men.

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Small cluster! Just wanted to emphasize I didn't say that to be polite. I actually know and have known a lot of water men. Very few were like this.

But it’s a certain particular type of meanness that I haven’t noticed with other elements. It’s very ‘water man mean’ lol, if there is such a thing.. They have this idea that women are stronger or more tough somehow.. maybe it’s because they’re quite cowardly so they assume all men are.. If the same guy AgeofAqua mentioned, would’ve seen a man cry in front of him I bet you anything he would *not* have told him to stop crying.. Instead, he would’ve been compassionate.

But the majority of water sign guys are the best people to be around. They’re completely different to this, because they see everyone as equal.. they don’t think women or men are “stronger”.. They’re just happy being nice to everyone. I love most water sign guys.

posted April 25, 2007 09:13 AM            

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very few? I think, it changes. People are more tolerant now, even if I compare the situation to 90's.

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posted April 25, 2007 01:36 PM              

and i have already staed tears (specially when woman use them) irritate me the most .
its not to say that i am not the typical senti cancerian .the fact is i am and i tend to show my emotions .

and lauren , i couldn't get the logic for what you said in the first post .
and also , i dont think water man are cowardly . any reasons why feel so ?

posted April 25, 2007 08:18 PM            

Different elements would be more likely to 'fall into' certain behaviors so to speak.. Someone who has strong Leo in their chart might be more likely to be an ego-maniac.. or someone who has strong Aries in their chart might be more likely to become physically abusive when angered.

This "small cluster" as I put it, are the water men I've seen displaying NEGATIVES of water.. such as hypocrisy and yes cowardice and envy.

I am talking about guys who say "stop that crying mess" to a person who is distressed and crying. I am NOT referring to the majority of water guys.

I've lost count of how many Pisceans I've known (and some Cancers) lol so it's probably also the fact that when you meet *more* of one sign.. you get more good but you're bound to find a few that aren't all that ..hmmm.. pleasant to be around.

posted April 25, 2007 11:05 PM            

That's not how I would react.

Maybe you just dated jerks?

posted April 25, 2007 11:24 PM            

I think people in general have trouble embracing their vulnerable side, so expressing it is even more difficult.
I have found this to be true both for men and women. Why does this happen? Maybe because when they were younger and let themselves go, no one cared, no one was adequate, no one would understand and so the person just learned to defend against emotion and "toughen up" (which may consciously work, but remains an illusion of the Ego).

So, when the threadstarter said those men would repress her emotional state, they probably have some degree of empathy deep inside, but have no clue how to deal with it. It's easier to repress a person's emotions than to deal with the fact that you don't know how to comfort the person and also that the person's emotional response threatens the emergence of their own feelings (which they don't know how to deal with). Of course, it's not only an act of imaturity, but also, IMHO, a non-manly act, because a man is supposed to take care of his woman.

But you know what, like someone else already wrote, there is a huge amount of pressure from our culture and society for us not to be emotional. In a man's case, it's even worse. If we cry or express unwanted feelings too much, then we're considered at least weak and possibly p*ssies.

I used to express my emotions rather easily when I was about 12-14 years old because I needed affection so badly. But people condemned me for it and I eventually learned that I was on my own and that nobody cared. Nowadays, my job is all about emotions and it's very easy for me to help others deal with their humanity.
In personal relationships, I feel great when a woman expresses her emotions and I find it very easy to be there for her, be adequate and I feel proud and honoured that someone shared their inner child with me.
I think it helps to create and maintain a deep bond.

posted April 27, 2007 06:34 AM              

The Sun Sign is barely 15-20% of the personality. You have to see their Ascendant, Moon, Mars and Venus to know about why they behaved the way they did.

A Cancerian with Mars in Aries and Leo Moon and Ascendant will be as emotionally sensitive as a brick wall compared to other men with Sun, Moon and Ascendant in water signs.
Contrast with several emotional men with non-water sun signs who have plenty of other planets in water signs.

And dont forget that the Sun progresses into a new sign every 30 years at minimum. Several aspects of the progressed sign creeps into the basic sun personality.