posted April 26, 2007 11:58 AM              

I'm curious as to your theory about Gemini being the most evolved sign - can you explain your thoughts on this?

posted April 26, 2007 01:16 PM              

As per math astrology (pioneered by Carl Tobey), Cancer is the first Zodiac Sign and the Zodiac goes from Cancer to Gemini. This is because using mathematical average distance from Earth, Moon is closest to Earth, then the Sun, then Mercury, then Venus etc till Neptune, Pluto, Planet Y and Planet Z.
This system uses a "mate sign" concept and hence Houses go from Leo to Virgo.
Leo first house, Cancer second house, Gemini 3rd right upto Virgo as 12th. [I had mentioned how PIsces was 6th House and not 12th and we had circumstantial evidence with several occult powers being reported by those with Neptune in 6th or Sun in 6th.]

Since the outer planets represent our higher consciousness, and Pluto is so transformational, imagine the true effect of Planet Y and Z, the rulers of Taurus and Gemini. Taureans are quite evolved too if they dig deep. Carl Tobey was Taurus. Taurus obsession with real estate is actually a superconscious desire to conquer the real estate of star systems and planets in Space.

Now, if you see the symbols of the Zodiac, Cancer is a Crustacean. Higher than Crustacean? Arachnids like Scorpions. Higher than that? Sea Mammals like Dolphins (Pisces)

Which signs have humans? All air signs. They represent the intellect and the future concepts unlike the survivalist water signs
or materialistic earth signs or action oriented fire signs.

In these air signs, only Gemini has 2 humans. One human is physical and the other is the Astral. Or TWin Self. Choose whichever you wish but I feel it represents using the intellect to create an Astral Twin and cross the boundaries of the Universe beyond Planet Z, true ruler of Gemini.

Does this mean all Cancerians are unevolved?
No, every sign is important for the Solar System, for our lessons to truly evolve. A Cancerian who masters her Gemini aspects will be far more evolved than a Gemini who is focusing on just her Cancer Moon for plain emotional support in life.

To speed up our evolution, we can meditate on our Gemini aspects and all planets/asteroids that are in our 3rd house or aspect it with a trine.

posted April 26, 2007 01:57 PM              

Just to add a quick point, however, with evolution comes power and more choices. A more evolved being has the potential to do more harm than a less evolved one, if we use your analogies.

Crab versus Human: While the crab may be less evolved the human has power to hurt the crab.

That was poorly written and slightly pessimistic on my end, but I'm just trying to show both sides.

posted April 26, 2007 02:12 PM              

My mc falls in cancer;

The person has his IC falling on Libra ( which is where my AC falls).
His DC falls in Aries, which is where my DC falls.

his DC falls on Cap, where my DC falls also.

posted April 26, 2007 02:41 PM              

Those are intriguing points, but I think this whole "higher/lower" evolution concept causes one to miss other perspectives and to NOT see the true nature of whatever thing/person/sign we are judging that way. I think instead of a sign being "more evolved" than the others, that it's "evolved" for a particular function. A Gemini is not going to be able to flourish and navigate the intuitive instinctual emotional realms the way a Cancer can. I wouldn't say that the Gemini is less evolved or the Cancer more evolved in that case, simply that that may be Cancer's specialty and out of the Gemini's natural environment. You could say in that case, a Cancer is more advanced in a Gemini couldn't you? A crab functions for a purpose, and a scorpion would not be able to function as a crab, so does that make the scorpion less evolved or inferior to the Crab? Nope, they just have differing purposes.

Same with animals, I don't think animals are "lower" or less evolved than us, or that physical manifestion is inferior to the so called "spiritual realms" (for *all* realms are spiritual) they/it just have a differing function than we do and we can still learn a lot from them. I think we've made a big mistake in our arrogance to assume that we are more evolved than animals, and the state of the planet shows the results of this mindset currenty - also: the imbalance between the races, sexism, etc, all a result of hierachial thinking and people not being able to act out their true natural functions because of this dynamic, because they are considered primative, less evolved, or not as important or worthwhile by whoever is on top of the pile. (though it is improving.)

I think a more appropriate labeling for the signs would be that they are all "evolving" and the hierachial judgments are unecessary and potentially harmful especially to the ones viewed as "lower" or of less value.

I think another purpose of the symbology in astrology is to realize how all things are related and how we are all connected and have it within us, instead of meaning things are primitive or signs are better or more advanced than other signs which results in imbalance. We all have our specialities, just like the signs do.