posted May 18, 2007 09:48 PM            

I have a moon Pluto conj so i guess its also his Mars opposing my moon...ouch

Peri - Yea...i do try to manipulate...and he does fight back lol...this friend is a Pisces Scorpio Scorpio im a Gemini Scorpio Libra lol. Very very close friend really, but there is always a lot of tension and bickering and throwing things at each other.

izodesmozina- hehe thank you so much. Me and him aren't together, just good friends, even though everyone claims there is some kind of tension there going on that shouldn't be there. I really don't know. He kinda gets me and stuff. But boy oh boy do we bicker. And not the kind of bicker that me and my bf have. My bf and I fight over things and get mad at each other, here its always a power play for no reason too. Kinda fun though

Thanks for the replies guys

posted May 19, 2007 01:49 AM            

At school, a guy with this aspect was generally perceived as a bully.

There's an inner struggle with Mars/Pluto. He is already angry at himself and at odds with himself every time he needs to take action. This inner war comes out and gets projected in relationships with people (who have the same Pluto).. so it becomes a war against you or others.. People with this opposition need to realize that the inner war has to be taken care of first.. otherwise they'll hurt people who have done nothing to them.

There's an irrational paranoia of betrayal and hurt. If they think someone has the ability to hurt them, they will do their best to hurt the person first.. Regardless of the fact that 'ability' doesn't show 'intention'. Person X might have a deadly sting but that doesn't mean they would choose to use it.. No matter.. Your Mars/Pluto guy will be onto X in no time, "why wait until X can make that choice.. better get to him first, that way he never gets the choice."

The slight problem with this attitude is that, X may have had absolutely no intention to harm MP (mars/pluto guy).. but now since MP started it.. X will! This is how Mars/Pluto opposition boys (who haven't learnt how to deal with this aspect) get in trouble very often.. They can't leave well enough alone with people. They must annihilate out of paranoia.. Then they wonder why they create enemies. But then again, if you ever gave them a choice between boring peace and entertaining war.. Even if the war was meaningless, they would pick war.. On the negative side, this is the aspect of the rebel without a cause.

In your relationship this will only surface if you trigger his opposition more so than most people. Like I said, he would feel this way towards many people.. Some of them may be friends, others enemies.. and everything in between. I have a Venus/Pluto opposition and I know it only gets triggered rarely, when another planet is involved. Otherwise, I know many people with their Pluto opposite my Venus and I'm best friends with some of them..

Degrees are very important as well. The closer this is, the more impact it would have on his personality. In your synastry, is this a very close aspect? Also, is your Moon closely conjunct Pluto and opposite his Mars? That may be one of those planets that triggers it more.. or makes you feel it more.

posted May 19, 2007 10:40 PM            

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OMG u rock! He doesnt believe in astrology at all but he soo was a bully in HS!

God thats sooo true...he doesn't show it but it is...

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There's an irrational paranoia of betrayal and hurt.

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If they think someone has the ability to hurt them, they will do their best to hurt the person first.. Regardless of the fact that 'ability' doesn't show 'intention'. Person X might have a deadly sting but that doesn't mean they would choose to use it.. No matter.. Your Mars/Pluto guy will be onto X in no time, "why wait until X can make that choice.. better get to him first, that way he never gets the choice."

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Scarily enough I used to share the same mentality.

He doesnt seem to get in trouble with people so im assuming he learned to deal with it somehow. Unless he hides it well. Its really hard to trust him sometimes even though we are very close. There is something about that lousy Scoprio moon on moon thing that just drags me to those ppl with rediculous intensity. Hes magnetic and charming as a friend. Its really terrible cuz when we first met every red alarm i owned went off and I, an untrusting paranoid human being, continue to pour my heart and soul to this guy....surprisingly even though i tend to be in relatively rollercoasterish relationships, i get the feeling that it will be this best friend of mine who will hurt me most.

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Degrees are very important as well

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0 degrees Mars in Taurus, 9 degrees Pluto in Scoprio so pretty loose

my Pluto though is 7 degrees Scorpio and my moon is 1. So his Mars is directly opposing my moon pretty harshly...

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For instance, anyone in your generation may agree with you to a higher or lesser extent in saying "this guy has a bit of an attitude problem", b

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Probably understatement of the century! He lives on ******* the heck out of people. He says things that are insane and offensive and stuff...just because...but usually in class on a relevant topic...but he is pretty oh wats the word...he says racist things just to shock people, and mean stuff just because....but not anymore to me...hes pretty relatively kind to me...he gives me the harshness that i need, yet he sometimes is very emotionally supportive...even though other times totally frigid...

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. but Mars is pretty self-centered.

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OH god. we are both Psych majors. And he SWEARS i have Borderline Personality Disorder (i really dont) but trust me when i say this guy def has Narcissistic Personality Disorder...it is exactly what it sounds like...he is SO SO SO SO SO SO full of himself! He actually is very possibly convinced i have a crush on him or something...ugh

Good lord...im so screwed....ugh! Its always me...i strive on emotional danger...and always get hurt....

Thank you sooo much so very very very very very much for your help!

posted May 20, 2007 12:07 AM            

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Thank you sooo much so very very very very very much for your help!

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No probs!

The guy I mentioned had his Mars at 3'47 Taurus and Pluto at 4'15 Scorpio. That's under 1 degree. The reason I mentioned degrees is because the larger the degree - the less you would notice the aspect.. usually..

I knew a second guy, born a few days before.. who has Mars at 0' Taurus and Pluto at 4'22 Scorpio.. That's 4 degrees.. I didn't feel this aspect with him nearly as much. He's pretty calm and collected..

The position of other planets would be pretty significant in how he handles this as well. For instance, a person with earth and air in their top 3 (Sun/Moon/Asc) would be more able to detach and think logically (air) or practically (earth).. Water/Fire might plunge into things without coldly analyzing their own drives before hand.

The Mars/Moon opposition you have is very close so that alone could be causing drama.

posted May 20, 2007 12:35 AM            

yea i feel that the moon plays a big part.

posted May 20, 2007 04:41 AM            

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...There's an inner struggle with Mars/Pluto. He is already angry at himself and at odds with himself every time he needs to take action. This inner war comes out and gets projected in relationships with people (who have the same Pluto).. so it becomes a war against you or others.. People with this opposition need to realize that the inner war has to be taken care of first.. otherwise they'll hurt people who have done nothing to them.

There's an irrational paranoia of betrayal and hurt...

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I have natal Mars/Pluto opposition...

What you said here is very true, Coral!
You always amaze me with your indepth interpretations and emotional maturity