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Topic: Weird and crazy inquiry- do u think I'm Leo or Virgo moon?
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Lake Dance unregistered
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posted May 23, 2007 12:35 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 12:46 AM
Lake Dance ~ It might be in your best interest to hire a private investigator to help you figure out where you came from. They should be able to figure out which hospital you were born at, enabling you to obtain a copy of your birth certificate. It would be an expense (although maybe not as much as you would anticipate), but the peace of mind it could give you would be well-worth it. I have Moon in Leo, and I don't recognize you as a fellow Leo-Mooner... but that may be due to stronger aspects in your chart overshadowing your Moon. You also don't necessarily strike me as a Virgo Mooner. Your Moon is your emotions, your securities and insecurities, and also how you view your mother. Perhaps if you get a book specifically about Moons, like Moon Signs by Donna Cunningham (used copies are about $2 USD), you can read the full descriptions of Leo & Virgo and then decide which one sounds more like you. Your mother, from your description, sounds more like Cunningham's description of a Virgo Moon's mother: "valued order over playfulness," "a compulsive, supercritical parent who demanded perfection, then let you know you'd never get anywhere near that goal without her supervision." And people with Virgo Moons do like children, they just feel pressured to be "perfect parents." Have you narrowed down your birthdate to Leo and Virgo being the only possibilities for your Moon? Have you considered Scorpio Moon? IP: Logged |
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posted May 23, 2007 04:05 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 04:14 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 04:26 AM
Lake Dance,Your analysis actually sounds like a virgo moon. I think it might go either way, perhaps a late virgo moon, towards the early leo degrees? Have you found what your mercury is? If you have found out that your ASC is in Virgo, will your moon then be in the first house? But I do see some leo in you, both leo and virgo. Anyhow, I read what you wrote about your foster parents. It seems that you have absorbed everything they tell you, what they say actually affects you greatly. I actually do understand this attachment. You seem to have absorbed whatever they said and did into your veins. I do know a kid, with predominant taurus placements, it's a one ear in and out the same ear. Whatever abuse does not affect them at all. Your foster parents do not sound like they know much about human rights - it's manipulation at the high end. Perhaps this is what happened with them as a kid. They get not what *they* want, but they are supposed to listen and be obedient to their elders. They probably wanted the same from you. Their idea of a child was one who would do everything they say. I don't think they knew how much the abuse would affect you psychologically. They seem to live back when times were dictatorial. I don't condone it though. But it's great you've moved out. IP: Logged |
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posted May 23, 2007 04:30 AM
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Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2007 04:32 AM
I'd say Virgo Moon close to ASC.------------------ We are not sinful, shameful human creatures who have to somehow earn Spirituality. We are Spiritual Beings having a human experience ~ Robert Burney IP: Logged |
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posted May 23, 2007 04:35 AM
You're bound to WANT to have Moon in Leo Lake, especially if you are at risk of having it in Virgo. You really need an earlier birthday than suggested for it to be in Leo. It's not just a question of the time needing to be earlier but the day in your case.------------------ quote: Mars, that's so spot on!
quote: I agree with MCM.
quote: ...please tell me, what did you to develop those abs?
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Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2007 05:03 AM
quote: You're bound to WANT to have Moon in Leo Lake, especially if you are at risk of having it in Virgo.
hmm does it mean, MCM, you think Leo Moon is somehow better than Virgo Moon? ... this is ridiculous...  btw you act like you don't care what people you attack think of you at the same time you included their few positive comments in your signature ... Are they so important for your self-esteem that you need to see them all the time? How can you depend so much on someone's opinion? ------------------ We are not sinful, shameful human creatures who have to somehow earn Spirituality. We are Spiritual Beings having a human experience ~ Robert Burney IP: Logged |
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posted May 23, 2007 05:04 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 05:09 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 05:39 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 05:42 AM
Peri: quote: btw you act like you don't care what people you attack think of you at the same time you included their few positive comments in your signature ... Are they so important for your self-esteem that you need to see them all the time? How can you depend so much on someone's opinion?
Yes that's right. Without those comments in my signature my self-esteem drops. I depend on the opinions of others, and always try to agree with them even at the expense of my own internal beliefs, such is my need to for people to think i'm nice. I also have Moon in Virgo.------------------ quote: Mars, that's so spot on!
quote: I agree with MCM.
quote: ...please tell me, what did you to develop those abs?
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alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Somewhere over the rainbow Registered: May 2009
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posted May 23, 2007 05:43 AM
So much drama in your life, Lake Dance. And because of that...I think you're part of the Leo Moon club However, I sense some Virgo influence within you too...so maybe a late Leo Moon or early Virgo ------------------ "I eat success for breakfast-- with skim milk!" Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leo
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posted May 23, 2007 05:48 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 05:53 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 05:54 AM
Lake: quote: Again, Peri  You've made fine, solid points
Where exactly? Apart from exihibiting an inferiority complex and make petty remarks (Moon in Virgo possibly?) about my nice signature, where has Peri made 'fine, solid points'? ------------------
quote: Mars, that's so spot on!
quote: I agree with MCM.
quote: ...please tell me, what did you to develop those abs?
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posted May 23, 2007 06:15 AM
Lake,You actually sound alot like a friend who has sun in the 5th and moon in the 7th. Maybe your venus is in the 5th as well. Also, your way of thinking and writing is pretty detached. It seems more virgo moonish. What I don't understand from your post is, why do your foster parents want to kill you? Also, why would they want to hide from you your birth date? What has knowing your foster mother's mother's death have anything to do with your birth date? From what you said, they confuse you about your birth date to hide things, specifically how her parent died, but seriously, how has that got to do with you? Is her parent's death in any way related to your real parents? Also, from your posts, I don't think they wanted to kill you. They wanted to threaten to kill you so you would do what they say. Your parents sound angry, specifically your mum. They seem to base their identity as parents on how you behave to them. They seem to want you to behave a certain way, and only that way. They couldn't accept your rebelliousness. My friend i mentioned above is like this too. Her whole life, had been drama with her parents. She could never get along with them and they seemed to want to tighten reigns on her because of her rebelliousness.
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posted May 23, 2007 06:18 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 06:21 AM
quote: First of all, I'm afraid you've missed something here- that woman is NOT my biological mother.
I am aware that she is not your biological mother, however she did raise you and you referred to her as "Mom" until you began unravelling all of her damage. She served as your mother figure, and your Moon would reflect your views on her as such. There is no argument here from me, I'm merely clarifying why I referred to her as your mother. I'm sure you are very sensitive to this point, and I don't intend to offend you on it. The anectdotes you posted could very well apply to a friend of mine who is Libra Sun & Virgo Moon: she is more dramatic than I am, always on a stage of some type, and she is extremely affectionate and demonstrative with her niece and nephew, etc. Both Leo and Virgo have show-off-ishness to them, bless us all! It also depends on what House your Moon is in, for example if you have a Virgo Moon in the First House you would have a tinge of leadership and "me first" that you may not necessarily have with a Virgo Moon in another House. And if your Sun is in the Fifth House (I'm not sure how your Houses are arranged, so Sun in Fifth is possible), you have an influence of Leo qualities in your personality. I'm not pushing you towards Virgo Moon, although that would be my intuition. I'm just pointing out some considerations for it in case you hadn't already thought of them. Either way, Leo or Virgo Moon, just your knowing which one is all you need to feel much better. I'm so sorry that in your country the private investigator option is not possible. It would have made things so easy for you. Do you know anyone who is especially skilled in chart rectification, and is that something you feel might help? If you want to look into it, Noel Tyl's message board has people who practice it: http://www.noeltyl.com/cgibin/index.cgi I hope that everything clears up quickly for you. PS - I'm sober! I don't engage in drunk-posting... IP: Logged |
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posted May 23, 2007 06:25 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 06:34 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 06:44 AM
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posted May 23, 2007 06:52 AM
Hello Lake Dance,I feel that your (edit: foster)mother is like alot of mothers. She purposely denied things she did to you to for her own self-preservation. You have been reading alot into it, and I don't blame you. You mother seems intelligent, cunning. She does not want you to get close to others because she does not want to air her linen in public so to speak. And with you, doing that, has made her very very angry. Thus, she uses poisonous words against you, threats, and knowledge of otherworldly things. She is overly protective of you, and not only that, highly possessive. As such, she does whatever she can to hold you tightly for fear you will fly off. They don't want you out of their lives. Unfortunately, they could only think of negative ways to manipulate you. She feeds you meat and organs maybe because that is their natural diet. They love it and want you to love it too. God forbid you should change their eating style. She puts the blame on you for what she fed you because she didn't want to take the blame. I don't think they know much about nutrition, or how vegetables are good for you. they take you to see slaughtered chickens because it's their way of teaching you not to be afraid of slaughter. They want you to see their reality as it is, and want you to get used to that. Basically you read too much into what your mum tells you. This is how I see it. When you get entangled in emotional drama, especially family drama, you think they're out to kill you. but if she were out to kill you, she would not have raised you. But her methods are totally wrong. This is how I see it. IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2007 06:56 AM
quote: Apart from exihibiting an inferiority complex and make petty remarks (Moon in Virgo possibly?) about my nice signature, where has Peri made 'fine, solid points'?
MCM, you are a good guy but sometimes you are a bit overbearing... you think only you are sensitive and can get hurt ... think about things you say to others... how you would feel if they did the same in a manner you do it ...the world is just as vulnerable before you as you are before it ... and you seem to forget this sometimes. I just reminded you about that, I did not try to hurt you, I've said nothing petty nor I exihibited your inferiority complex. I said something you agreed with and by that I meant: you cannot pamper your ego at the expense of others especially if their opinion is important to you. I am a Lunar Sagittarius * surprise! (empty Virgo and H6 here) Lake what do you mean by saying you are sorry? you said nothing offensive to me...  P.S. MCM now you can add MCM, you are a good guy to your signature  IP: Logged | |