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jane
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posted June 12, 2007 07:11 AM
  
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jane
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posted June 12, 2007 07:12 AM
This is their composite:  And this is their progressed composite:  Thanks for any tips. I've tried stating the obvious to my sister--that we have limited time left with our mom and that her coldness is really hurting her--but that has no apparent effect on her. IP: Logged |
Happy Dragon
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posted June 12, 2007 09:29 AM
~ jane ~re: your sister and her behaviour .. in her own way ..
( from what i can suss in the pic without going cross-eyed )
she be reacting to these transits to her natal placements .. ~ transiting (1) Chiron opposing her natal 3rd house Saturn
~ transiting (2) Saturn squaring her natal 12th house Jupiter
~ transiting (3) Uranus conjunct her natal 10th house Venus
~ transiting (4) Pluto opposing her Ascendant / conjunct her Descendant her apparent coldness may be due to a psychological reaction to the news about her mum ..
btw .. i'm no psychologist .. but i've noted similar reactions to similar situations ..
.. her natal 3rd house Saturn would probably make it hard for her to express herself ..
( possibly thru a fear of saying the wrong thing or that others won't understand in any case .. )
and that placement is being affected by transiting (1) Chiron .. the (3) Uranian transit might give her a feeling of 'separation' from others .. feeling alienated ..
or it might be easy with the conjunction to be separate and/or to alienate others in some way .. the (2) Saturn transit to 12th house Jupiter .. would test her faith values in some way ..
i guess the key to her behaviour in that one is the 12th house factor .. and the (4) Pluto transit behind those above .. intensifying the lot ..
( i.e. how she might feel and perceive things ) be some relevant info here ..
~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/audiofls.html ~ 
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Jan_A
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posted June 12, 2007 12:02 PM
Hi Jane! 
I don't think, your sister is emotionally cold(she has Moon conjunction Sun).
Maybe you should try to talk to your sister not on telephone. Ask her first about, how she is doing. You know, if you talk to her only about your Mom, your sister could block. Give some attention to your sister and she will probably explain her behavior.
Jan
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girlloveboy
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posted June 12, 2007 01:05 PM
Hi Jane So much love to your family About your sister, this only my opinion based on my own experiences.
I see she has a Capricorn Sun, Mercury, Mars so she could be very reserved( i also have a Cap stellium so i know it), especially when it comes to emotions.
Also she has Aqua Moon... Aqua moon persons are detached and seem cold - BUT, ITS ONLY THE SURFACE, believe me. In their heart they have very deep emotions, but they dont know what to do with it. And as hers in her 8th house, i think you can be sure, she has very,very deep feelings for your Mom , but she maybe confused how to express it, how to deal with it....
And unfortunately the only solution is to wait, to give her time, and DONT push her, thats the most important. Which i can totally understand very hard for you, for your Mom, and for everybody, but i think its hard for her also.
MAybe if you would have a calm conversation with her, she would open her heart. And also if her birth time accurate, she has Gemini ASC, which again doesnt help her to cope with her feelings... IP: Logged |
jane
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posted June 13, 2007 12:20 AM
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girlloveboy
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posted June 13, 2007 09:10 AM
JaneHope everything will be ok at the end.
Just another thing: i think its really a good idea to write her instead of speak, but even in this letter, AVOID being emotional... unless its likely she would neglect it. You need to influence her thoughts, her pride... Love and good luck! IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted June 13, 2007 09:38 AM
Jane, with all of the Cap and Aquarius, she can't help but be standoff-ish. It is probably very painful for her to see your mom like that {naturally} so she handles it by being detached {took care of my dad for five years so I can relate a little}. I can totally understand why you're frustrated and your boyfriend is disgusted. I'm not really good at reading charts yet but, in general, I know that it's hard to change a person. I hope that your sister comes around for everyone's sake. Keeping you and your family in my prayers.IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted June 13, 2007 02:23 PM
Hello and Welcome Ann7 
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Azalaksh
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posted June 13, 2007 07:07 PM
Hi jane ~ quote:
My sister is naturally an aloof and emotionally reserved person, but lately she's been very cold to our mom. I know everyone handles the stress from a loved one's illness in their own way, but my sister's behavior is really hurting our mom. She almost never spends time with our mom or talks with her
I'm no psychologist either, but I wonder if this is all an expression of her denial?? 3rd house Saturn could be an issue, but I have a 3rd house Saturn  I have several similar examples..... 6 years ago my father's prostate cancer metastasized and spread very quickly throughout his body. He was given very little time to live. My 5yo son and I stayed at his house until after he passed away. My son would have *nothing* to do with his grandpa. We explained that Grandpa was sick with something he couldn't catch, but he still avoided my dad like the plague, wouldn't even go in his room, which hurt my dad deeply, although he understood the fears of a 5yo for something too big for comprehension. I know your sister isn't 5, but perhaps her maturity is an issue.....I wonder if there are unresolved difficulties that were never expressed between your sis and mom, and now your sis is resentful because she feels she cannot *ever* bring them up for resolution, to a person incapacitated by illness?? Possibly there is a lack of understanding about the Hoyer-lift (??) and the medical reasons for the necessity of same?? My brother was the same way with my mother who suffered a stroke and is paralyzed on one side of her body. He would get irritated and tell her that she COULD stand if she'd just try a little harder..... Has your sister ever been through a serious or terminal illness before with another family member or anyone she cared about?? The first time it happens in your life, you can undergo a radical readjustment of your ideas about health, life and death. I think her "coldness" is an expression of fear, or perhaps she's still stuck in Stage 1-2..... Best Wishes for all your family ~
Zala PS: I think tNeptune in IX sq nJupiter in XII (mutual reception??) could be part of the astro puzzle, along with the waxing t-square with tSaturn..... IP: Logged |
jane
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posted June 14, 2007 02:40 AM
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Azalaksh
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posted June 25, 2007 08:25 PM
jane ~ quote:
Zala - I'm thinking you could have Saturn in every house and you'd still rock.
.....still shuddering at the awful thought of Saturn in 1-12   How's things going?? Have you been able to have a good conversation with your sister?? Z IP: Logged |
jane
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posted June 26, 2007 01:44 AM
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