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MUSTANG
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posted June 17, 2007 06:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this article provocative. Should we be paying closer attention to the planet Eris? I hope not, because I think it's in my 12th house.

I find it ironic that Pluto was demoted (astronomically, not astrologically) by the planet that is "The Goddess of Rivalry." It's like Pluto was caught-up on a RICO charge, and his rival and twin sibling, Eris, took over his underworld buisness. Astrology imitating gangsta' life? How ironic that the God of the Underworld is now metaphorically in jail!

I find it fitting that Pluto would be upstaged by a woman, pluto ruling sex-related things and being very passionate. Ya know, the thing that makes you strong also makes you weak...

PS- I also find it ironic that my title got screwed up...damn pluto!Or damn mercury retrograde - you decide.

Here's the article:


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Pity poor Pluto, the puny former planet is facing yet another indignity.

Demoted from planethood a year ago into a new category of dwarf planet, it now turns out that it isn't even the biggest one of those.

"This is sort of Pluto's last stand," joked Emily L. Schaller of California Institute of Technology, co-author of a report in Thursday's issue of the journal Science.

When the International Astronomical Union redefined planets last year, it created the new subcategory dwarf planets, and Pluto was thought to be the largest in that group.

Planetary astronomy professor Michael E. Brown and graduate student Schaller found otherwise while studying Dysnomia, the moon of Eris, another dwarf planet.

Using the Keck Observatory and Hubble Space Telescope they were able to calculate the movement of Dysnomia and, with that information, calculate the mass of Eris at 27 percent more than Pluto. But even though Eris tops Pluto, Earth is still 360 times more massive.

"Pluto and Eris are essentially twins -- except that Eris is slightly the pudgier of the two," Brown said.

Eris, by the way, is named for the Greek goddess of, among other things, rivalry.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. |

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lotusheartone
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posted June 17, 2007 06:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MUSTANG, that's interesting!

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neptune5
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posted June 17, 2007 06:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yea, i agree with you mustang, it is a bit provocative, eris happens to be in my 8th house.

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MUSTANG
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posted June 17, 2007 06:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IRES...

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MUSTANG
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posted June 17, 2007 06:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked and it's definately in my 12th...figures.

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MUSTANG
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posted June 17, 2007 06:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DP

This particular thread has been fraught with technical difficulties for me...

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posted June 17, 2007 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love people who use the word "fraught"

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MUSTANG
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posted June 17, 2007 08:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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neptune5
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posted June 17, 2007 09:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i found something that might be of value, check it out:

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The solar system's newest planet, formerly known as 2003 UB313 or Xena, now has an official name, Eris, and the name is pronounced EE-ris. Named after the goddess of discord, Eris held true to her name, creating such controversy about her planetary presence that the veteran planet Pluto was demoted to dwarf planet status by astronomers as they grappled with naming the new planet.

Breathless scientists announced her discovery as the Solar System's 10th planet on July 29, 2005, and promptly nicknamed it Xena, after the warrior princess from TV series of the same name. Mercury was retrograde at that time, so you just knew something would get snarled up and it did.

While the name, Xena, captured the media's fascination, it was only intended to be an interim nickname according to Michael Brown (no relation to your humble webmaster), a member of the team that made the discovery using telescopes at the Palomar Observatory, outside San Diego, California. The team has discovered several new planets in recent years, including Quaoar, Sedna, and Orcus. Eris was originally identified on October 31, 2003, but the announcement was held back for almost two years while astronomers did further studies.

However, the name, Xena, was not to last. The stuffed shirts and grand poo-bahs of the astronomical establishment won. They did much feather fluffing about Eris being larger than Pluto, and by August, 2006, had demoted Pluto to dwarf planet status and confined Eris to the same category.


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Scientists have learned much about Eris already. While research released in Feb., 2006, suggested Eris might be as large as 3,000 kilometers in diameter, or a third bigger than Pluto, research from the Hubble telescope released in April, 2006, showed Eris has a diameter closer to 2,400 kilometers, about five percent bigger than Pluto.

What the Hubble research showed which was unexpected was that Eris reflects as much as 86% of the light it receives from the Sun. This is a very high percentage, about what one might expect a snowball on Earth to reflect, so astronomers are scratching their heads trying to figure out what's going on. Be assured the scientific types will be spending a lot of time on this, and we'll be hearing more as time goes by.

The basics, however, have been pinned down. Eris has a highly elliptical 560-year orbit around the Sun, which places it three times as far away from the Sun as Pluto and about 100 times as far away from the Sun as Earth. It is so far away that someone standing on Eris would see the Sun as about the same size as any other star.

The surface temperature is close to absolute zero, which is about -459ºF or -273ºC. Spectroscopic analysis of the planet reveals methane ice, an unusual feature because such ice indicates a primitive surface which has not been heated significantly since the solar system was formed 4.5 billion years ago.

The planet's discoverers say that if the planet had ever gotten close to the Sun, all the methance ice would have boiled off right away. The only other plantary bodies in our solar system which have been measured with methane ice are Pluto and Neptune's moon Triton.

Eris also has a moon now named Dysnomia after the the daughter of Eris. Dysnomia is known as the spirit of lawlessness. This moon is about 250 kilometers in diameter and reflects only about 1 percent of the sunlight that reaches it.

The release of ephemerides for Eris marks the beginning of the fun for astrologers. The teaching in western astrology, the only astrological system in the world which accepts new planets, is that when a new planet is discovered and named, the archetype of that planet is available to everyone on Earth. The name of the planet counts, so does the planet's mythology and the story of the planet.

Because of this planet's slow orbit, everyone alive today has Eris in either Pisces or Aries. Thus the house placement rather than sign placement in the natal astrological chart will be the significant factor in determining Eris's meaning.



http://www.karmastrology.com/NewPlanets/Eris.shtml



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"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil Gibran

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MUSTANG
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posted June 17, 2007 10:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting that; it was interesting.

So, we have the planet, Eris, meaning rival and discord, and her moon's name means 'Lawlessness." Hmm...it sounds like a definate malefic. And it's in my 12th house... Maybe that's better than other placements though, because at least the 12th is already a dark house. If it were in my fifth, seventh, or tenth it may feel worse. I mean, there, it could muddy a good thing. Right?

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neptune5
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posted June 17, 2007 10:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, hmmm, i guess your right mustang. Look at it this way, i have waldmathe black moon conjunct my MC, does that make my 10th house dark? well if it does then, its stomething you have to learn to live with, think of it as making you unique.

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"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

"The beauty that addresses itself to the eyes is only the spell of the moment; the eye of the body is not always that of the soul."
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MUSTANG
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posted June 17, 2007 10:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I'm already unique! I don't need pesky Eris and her evil daughter to make me so!

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