posted June 18, 2007 07:05 AM              

i was shocked

here is their synastry
Melanie Griffith
9 Aug 1957
11:49 P.m.
New york, U.S.A.
Antonio Banderas
10 Aug 1960
9:00 P.m.
Maklage , Spain

what Linda said about soulmates holds true for them, they met at a time when their lives were going through a crisis, their marriages were failing, Melanie was on the verge of Relapsing into Alcoholism and Drug addiction, due to her marriage troubles.the relationship turned their well settled lives upside down, but they r happily married today.

these aspects make me think its a twin soul match
under 1 degree

his Venus con her Pluto
his Pluto con her Mars
his Venus con her mars

but they also have

her Moon opp his Sun ( that works like a conjuncton)
his Moon opp her Jupiter
his Mars opp her Saturn
his Saturn trine her Venus
her Saturn trine his Moon
her Saturn conj his Juno
his True Node conj her Venus

as for asteroids

her Karma con his Moon
his Karma con her POF , and D.C. and opposed her Juno!!!
his Valentine opposes her Valentine and Isis
his Isis opp her Moon
her Osiris sextile his Pluto

those r all i have checked, maybe IQ and others might go into detail

posted June 18, 2007 01:01 PM            

1 degree (or less)
his Venus conj my Pluto
his Sun conj my Mars
his Sun conj my Karma
his Merc conj my Mars
his Merc conj my Karma
his Chiron conj my Amor
his Venus opp my Chiron
his Karma opp my Saturn
his Moon opp my Nep
his Plu squ my Moon
his Nep trine my Sun
his Nep trine my Karma
his NN trine my NN
his NN trine my Jup
his Plu sex my Mars
his Moon sex my Juno

additionally - under 3 degrees
his Saturn con my NN
his Venus conj my Asc
his Venus conj my Juno
his Sun/Merc opp my Vertex
his Pluto opp my Sun
his Sun trine my Sun
his Merc trine my Merc
his Nep trine my Mars
his Sun/Merc trine my IC and PofF
his Moon sex my Chiron

all that being said, we have a really nice composite chart - Sun,Moon,Merc conjunction (<1 deg) in 7th house opp Venus conj the comp Asc and 5th house Chiron, Jup, Amor, Vertex trine/sex the 1st and 7th house planets! Kinda got that Rectangle thing goin' on in 1st,5th,7th,10th houses.

Hmmm, I wonder what people think of us????

M31

posted June 19, 2007 08:42 AM              

that is interesting, I had some other results.

The exact aspects between Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Pluto, True Node, AC, Valentine and Karma were:

His Sun conjunct her Sun
HIs Moon trine her Saturn
HIs Venus conjunct her Mars
HIs True Node trine her AC

I wasn`t sure if you also look at aspects of the above listed and other like other asteroids or Neptune (for example: do you count a Venus-Neptune-sextile?).
But still there are 4 strong connections between main bodies; IQ said 3 - 5 are strong synastry, so I guess, those two could actually be soulmates.

I didn`t see the other aspects you listed as close enough. The Venus-Pluto-conjunction is 2° (still very strong, but not exact).

However, I then looked at the double whammies they have. I didn`t find all that much, but I don`t really know, how much double whammies (within 2°, and with conjunctions within 3,5° are average).
I found 3 double whammies (including main bodies and asteroids)

His Mercury conjunct her Isis (1°)
His Isis square her Mercury (2°)

I thought this one was interesting; even though Mercury is usually not that romantic or "lovey-dovey", in their case Mercury rules her 5th house and his 7th house, so I think it`s definitely relevant.
Even more interesting, coincidentally I share this double whammy with that actor, I can`t stop talking about, too.

His Mercury is conjunct my Isis
My Mercury is trine his Isis
And like in Antonio`s and Melanie`s case MErcury rules relationship-houses, his 5th house and my 7th house. I thought that was kind of hilarious.

But back to Antonio and Melanie; they have yet another double whammy with Mercury

His Mercury conjuncts her Nadir (0°)
His Nadir squares her Mercury (2°)

and

His Union square her Midheaven (1!)
His MC square her Union (2°)

Maybe they have some discussions about their careers. In the synastry there are quite a lot aspects with his MC, but only few with hers, so maybe this indicates that she has helped his career more than he has supported hers?

The other exact aspects between their horoscopes are:

His Moon trine her Uranus
His Mercury sextle her Jupiter
His Mercury square her Neptune
His Jupiter square her Psyche
His Pluto conjunct her Eros (mmh, delicious )
His Karma sextile her Psyche
His Eros square her Eros
HIs Psyche square her Eros
His Union sextile her Mars
His Lust trine her Saturn
His Lust trine her Uranus

posted June 19, 2007 08:42 AM              

His Moon conjunct her Karma
His Venus conjunct her Pluto
His Node conjunct her Mercury and Venus
His Node sextile her Node
His SN conjunct her Union
His DC conjunct her Eros
His Karma opposite her Juno
His karma trine her VAlentine
His VAlentine opposite her Juno
His VAlentine trine her Isis
His Lust conjunct her Karma

All those nodal connections could indicate a strong soulmate-contact, both, from the past, but also in the present.
Her Union conjunct his SN could indicate that there was a relationship or at least a connection before; maybe they have met in a past life.
And her Venus conjunct his True Node maybe indicates that they are meant to be lovers in this life. Also, the conjunction to Mercury emphasizes the importance of their communication again, and as I said before, her Mercury rules her 5th house, so the ruler of her 5th house conjuncts his Node. Maybe it`s his fate to have children with her. Or a very juicy affair. Maybe it would have stayed an affair without their children.

But no, that would have been unlikely. Just look at the Karma-Valentine-Juno-interaction. His Karma is opposite her Juno: was she destined to become his wife? I`d say, yes, but maybe it wasn`t as easy as they would have thought (the opposition is an aspect of tension after all), but then again, you need that polar tension in a relationship to add some spice. And both of them need that spice, since they are truely passionate individuals.
His Valentine opposite her Juno. Does that mean he would sacrifice his life for his wife? Is he that devoted to her? Or does it also mean that the way she behaves / is as his wife, is a source of great attraction, but also sometimes fraught with tension? Does her wife-being challenge his urge to love her completely and unconditionally?
But his Karma also trines his Valentine, it seems that true love was in the cards, destiny dealt them. Is it his fate to be loved by her?

I know, I ask more questions than answering them, but I guess IQ could interprete this better than me.
HOwever, I didn`t even look too closely on all the Eros-aspects. It seems they have a really passionate and steamy relationship, and probably anything but boring in and outside the bedroom.
This synastry should get a NC17-rating.

But are they twinsouls?
WEll, they have exact aspects, they have double whammies (even though not with the lovey-dovey planets and asteroids), they have aspects with Moon and AC (two of them are even exact). So I guess they would qualify as potential twinsouls, but I`m pretty sure, they are at least soulmates.

posted June 20, 2007 06:49 AM              

yes, I remember what IQ said about 8th hosue and MC. But I`m still collecting and comparing charts with the exchange of 8th and 10th house.
I still can see some very deep experiences in the 8th house, but I also noticed that many, many couples have a lot of MC or 10th house action (But I think, IQ would see those as separated things, since he uses the equal system).

But what do you think, does this exchange imply, that there is emotional depth and sexual attraction connected to placements in the 10th house?

posted June 23, 2007 06:55 AM              

her Draco Sun on his Draco . vertex
his Draco. Venus opp her Natal. Valentine

his Draco . Venus opp her Natal. Valentine
his Draco . pluto opp her Natal .Venus

posted June 23, 2007 12:01 PM              

are there any established interaspec ts that diferenciates when a person is our twin , and when its a soulmate? - in the Dracos, as weleel in the natals?

posted June 07, 2008 12:32 PM              

aspects are within 1deg

EROS
square chiron (0)
trine AC (1)
conjunct venus (0)
dr eros opposes N armor (0)

VENUS
Dr venus opposes N venus (1)
Dr venus conjunct N cupid (1)

SUN
trine MC (0)
conjunct AC (out of orb)
trine Saturn (1)
trine NN (0)
dr sun trine N moon (1)
dr sun opposes N NN (1)

MOON
trine pt of fortune (1)
dr moon opposes N venus (0)
dr moon conjunct N cupid (0)
dr moon trine dr vertex (0)
dr moon opposes dr MC (1)

NN
Trine Saturn (1)
N NN opposes dr part of fortune (1)
Dr NN conjunct dr Saturn (0)
Dr NN trine pt of fortune (1)

VERTEX
Trine karma (1)
Trine Pluto (0)
Dr vertex trine dr moon (0)
Dr vertex trine dr venus (1)
Dr vertex trine dr Chiron (0)

AC
Trine mercury (1)
Trine valentine (1)
Dr AC opposes dr Osiris (0)

NEPTUNE
Conjunct AC (1)

PLUTO
Trine Saturn (1)
Trine vertex (0)
Dr Pluto opposes N NN (1)
Dr Pluto opposes N venus (1)
Dr Pluto sextile dr venus (0)
Dr Pluto trine dr cupid (0)

VALENTINE
trine jupiter (0)
trine AC (1)
trine pt of fortune (1)
dr valentine trine N Aphrodite (1)
dr valentine trine N Osiris (0)
dr valentine trine N NN(0)
dr valentine opposes N valentine (0)
dr valentine trine dr venus (1)

KARMA
trine vertex (1)
dr karme trine dr Saturn (1)

ISIS
opposes venus (1)
conjunct Saturn (1)
opposes NN (0)
dr isis opposes dr venus (0)
dr isis conjunct dr cupid (0)

OSIRIS
Conjunct juno (1)
Trine Jupiter (1)

Dr Osiris
Trine dr Saturn (1)
Trine dr NN (0)
Trine dr pt of fortune (1)

MC
Trine sun (0)
Trine mercury (1)

Mars
Conjunct pt of fortune (0)
Dr mars opposes N Osiris (0)
Dr mars opposes dr venus (0)

Juno
Dr juno square dr moon (0)
Dr juno square dr karma (0)