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GeminiLover75
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posted June 20, 2007 06:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went to astro.com and made an event chart for 25 April 2007... is this right? But what about the birth time? I've entered midnight but have no idea if this is the right thing to do... How can I find out what time of day Venus got to the same position in the sky as the time I was born? Should it be the same as my birth time? (If so, my house cusps are basically the same as natal chart... which doesn't seem right). I don't get it!

Can anyone help?

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GeminiLover75
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posted June 20, 2007 06:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I'm now just playing around with "birth times" and slowly getting closer to my exact natal Venus position...

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 20, 2007 07:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
g.l.'75 ..
just post your birth data here ..
i can figure the venus return ..
won't take too long either ..

if not the whole data .. then just your venus sign by degrees should be sufficient ..

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GeminiLover75
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posted June 20, 2007 07:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

It's 26 April 1975, Dunedin, New Zealand at 8.30pm. Venus position is 14.33 Gemini. What I've managed to arrive at tonight is 25 April 2007, 2.05am. Does that sound right?

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GeminiLover75
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posted June 20, 2007 07:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok make that 3.15am for the Venus Return time...

Am I on the right track?

Looking at the chart I've come up with, it doesn't seem that great. And when I put it in composite with my natal, my bf's natal, and a multi-composite of my VR, natal and bf's natal, as far as I can see it's all bad...

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 20, 2007 07:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus's current position .. 13.38 Leo ..

past ..
on 24th April 2007 .. 3.09 pm GMT it was at 14.33 gemini ..

future..
Venus will reach 14.33 Gemini on June 5th 2008 .. at 8.54 pm GMT

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 20, 2007 08:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*** And when I put it in composite with my natal, my bf's natal, and a multi-composite of my VR, natal and bf's natal, ***
sounds complicated ..
***as far as I can see it's all bad.***
how come ???? as in .. why bad ???

btw: .. those times might be a bit out .. though only by 7 minutes ..

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ErickaF
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posted June 20, 2007 10:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone figure out my venus return?!!?Nov. 4 1981 10:57 a.m.

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 20, 2007 11:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nov. 4 1981 .. venus in sag. 28.56 ..

next venus in sag. 28.56 ..
23rd january 2008 .. 11.16 am GMT
( time edited .. )

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afroken
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posted June 20, 2007 11:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whats a venus return?

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afroken
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posted June 20, 2007 11:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whats a venus return?

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Azalaksh
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posted June 20, 2007 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus Return is a medical term for the pumping of blood back to the heart.

J/K!!!

Any planet's "Return" is when it comes back to the exact position that it was when you were born. Every year on or about your birthday you have a Solar Return. Every month you have a Lunar Return. Return charts lend a flavor of interpretation to the time period of the cycle. If you do a Solar Return chart, it will show what the major focus for the year will be, taking into account the SR Ascendant and the houses the planets are in, and the aspects they might make to the natal.

Go here, afroken:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/venusreturn.html

The Saturn Return is probably one of the most important..... you'll have a Jupiter Return every 12 years. You'll have a Uranus Return if you live to be approx 84, and you will never see a Neptune or Pluto Return My mother is going thru her Uranus Return and Neptune Opposition right now.....

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sameesadiq
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posted June 20, 2007 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi HD,
When should I expect my Venus & Saturn returns.

Venus Capricorn 00°29
&
my Saturn Aquarius 14°10
Thank You

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MUSTANG
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posted June 20, 2007 06:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
next venus in sag. 28.56 ..
23rd january 2008 .. late evening GMT .. 11 pm aprox

Your venus retuen happens on my B-day!

Can someone find mine?

01/23/1971 11:53 am, bristol, PA

quote:
Venus Return is a medical term for the pumping of blood back to the heart

LMAO!

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Sun Aqua, Moon Sagg, Asc Taurus

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GeminiLover75
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posted June 20, 2007 10:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks HD! btw, does it make a difference that I'm in the Southern Hemisphere? The time I worked out is roughly 12 hours ahead...

Well I say "bad" because the time I worked out puts Uranus on my Venus Return ascendant... and when I put my VR chart in composite with me, my bf, and a multicomposite I get t-squares... apex at Mars! I'll post more once I've had another look...

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GeminiLover75
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posted June 20, 2007 10:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok here are my notes (can't post the chart from here at the library).

My VR ascendant is Pisces
Uranus conjunct ascendant
Mars in the 12th house
Pluto and Jupiter in the 10th house
Moon and Saturn in Leo, 5th house
Venus in the 4th house conjunct IC
Sun and Mercury in the 2nd house.

VR in composite with me:
Aquarius rising
Sun and Mercury in 4th house
Venus in 5th house
Jupiter in 1st house.

My VR in composite with my bf:
Mars T-squares!
Sun at 29 degrees Taurus (exactly conjunct his Saturn)
Pluto in Scorpio, 8th house
(Those things sound bad, very bad, to me).

My VR, me and my bf all in multi-composite:
Pisces rising
Mars conjunct ascendant
Saturn, Mars and Pluto grand water trine with Neptune forming a kite
Sun and Mercury in 5th house
Venus in 4th house.

Maybe you're not supposed to do composites of these, but still... Can anyone help with interpreting? Either way it seems like Uranus is in charge and my 4th and 5th houses are highlighted with Venus, Sun and Mercury...

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted June 20, 2007 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thoroughly regret doing this chart right about now...everything is squaring venus...in mine and my bfs charts....everything...yay...

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GeminiLover75
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posted June 20, 2007 11:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah BUD tell me about it... I just saw Venus squaring Mars and Uranus in various charts that I ran... (I just did my bf's VR). Hm.

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 21, 2007 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ GeminiLover75 ~
re:
** .. does it make a difference that I'm in the Southern Hemisphere? The time I worked out is roughly 12 hours ahead .. **

Dunedin, New Zealand : 45s52, 170e30,
11 hours 22 minutes difference to GMT ..
( that's via my astro software )

you can check here for 'summer time' .. 'daylight saving' and such ..
time differences .. present .. past .. future ..
~ http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html ~

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~ sameesadiq ~
re: ** When should I expect my Venus & Saturn returns.
Venus Capricorn 00°29 & my Saturn Aquarius 14°10 **

Venus .. January 24th 2008 .. 5.35 pm GMT .. ( time edited )
Saturn .. December 19th 2020

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~ MUSTANG ~

... venus at 16.01 Sag ...

venus return at ..
10.08 pm Gmt .. January 12th 2008 ..
( time edited )
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*MISS*ARIES
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posted June 21, 2007 12:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Dragon- would you be so kind as to fill me in on mine??

april 3, 1981 6:25am Great Falls, MT

thank you!!

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 21, 2007 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ *MISS*ARIES ~

next venus return: .. April 16th 2008 .. 9.04 a.m. Gmt .. 12.31 Aries
( time edited )

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 21, 2007 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Free ephimeris software
~ http://ephemeris.com/software.html ~

Time differences .. present .. past .. future ..
~ http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html ~

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sameesadiq
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posted June 21, 2007 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks HD.

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 21, 2007 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ GeminiLover75 ~
~ MUSTANG ~
~ *MISS*ARIES ~
~ sameesadiq ~

just to let you know i've edited the times .. i.e. where it sais .. ( edited time ) ..
one was p.m. instead of a.m. .. ( sorry ) ..

my location is minus 7 minutes from GMT ..
and the chart i was using had this location .. i.e not exact GMT
GMT is here : .. Greenwich u.k. .. 51n29, 0e0 ..
anyhow my day-to-day chart is now set at Greenwich co-ordinates ..

this is the software i'm using ..
( for apple mac )
~ http://kilian.stern.net/Kairon_e.htm ~
~ http://www.astro.com/friends/soft_e.htm ~

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MUSTANG
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posted June 21, 2007 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks HD!

Btw, my VR stinks for 2008, too.

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Sun Aqua, Moon Sagg, Asc Taurus

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