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soconfused
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posted June 21, 2007 11:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
UGH - just when you think they're gone , they come back

I have this pisces guy that keeps reappearing just when I think he is gone -

how do you look at a chart to see why?

I have prayed to keep certain people out of my life that will be bad for me - I'm presuming my prayers haven't been answered or he is supposed to be there

Now he says he wants to cook me dinner - not sure if that's a good idea with Mercury in retrograde

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MUSTANG
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posted June 21, 2007 05:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't how to find that in chart, but I do know what you can do to get rid of him.

Don't answer his calls. Don't see him. Eventually, he'll get the hint. If he doesn't, tell him you don't want anything to do with him. If he doesn't comply, get a restraining order.

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samsara
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posted June 21, 2007 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My advice is to simply tell him you don't want him coming back or in your life anymore. Being a pisces myself, I'm willing to bet that he'll be gone and he'll never bother you again. I think it's really that simple.
I know myself, that I would neither want to be in someone's life that doesn't want me there or communicate with them.
So be up as up front as possible and I have a feeling your problem will be solved for good!!!!

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posted June 21, 2007 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One more thing, remember you have to take responsabilty if you are remaining in contact with this person. After telling them you want them gone,if you really want them to be gone, just NEVER communicate with them again . Don't answer posts or emails or give them an opportunity to communicate over the phone. You have to take responsability for your role in this. And then have the discipline to stay out of contact. MAybe this person has gotten mixed signals from you. Maybe if they knew you felt this way they'd disappear forever. And not burden you with their pressence. They'd proabaly stay away from places you post and go on with their life. So tell them once and for all, if you mean it. If you really do mean it, I have a feeling your "prayers" will be answered .

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posted June 21, 2007 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings...

People from the past often "come back" when Mercury is Retrograding... in Horary Astrology the Rx Mercury can bring back lost items, in the transits, Mercury Rx often brings back "unfinished business". So, check to see when the person usualy reappears, and how often it happens under the Rx Mercury.

Blessings...

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posted June 22, 2007 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And if you think thats bad wait until Venus goes retro in late July..All old boyfriends and girlfriends will be popping up..LOL!!!!

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soconfused
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posted June 22, 2007 02:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mustang - I don't think I need to go to those extremes LOL - but I do ignore him most of the time when he writes but then he gets persistant and he didn't really do anything wrong - I just don't trust him - I don't necessarilly want him out - but what I was trying to say was get or or get out quit jumping back & forth

Samsara - I did say this to him and he was highly offened - I don't want to hurt the guy I just wish he was more dependable and consistant - sometimes he disappears for 2 weeks without a word - then all of a sudden he needs to be in constant contact -

Aselzion - most times I hear from him once or twice a week , but like I said above sometimes he disappears for 2 weeks so I think he's gone

Mama Mia - Oh boy - that doesn't sound like fun

I didn't mean I prayed for him to be out, just people I don't think would be good for me -

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MUSTANG
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posted June 22, 2007 07:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't necessarilly want him out

Bingo! So, he won't be. No need to pray for things you don't really want to come to fruition, because your prayers won't be answered if you don't do your part. God helps those who help themselves.

You should tell him you want him to be more dependable and see if that helps.

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CoralFrequency
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posted June 23, 2007 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soconfused, would you feel the same way about a female friend?

Say you were close friends but it was her personality to not keep in touch consistently.. would you feel as though - if she didn't call for it a week and then wanted to be "in constant contact".. would this bother you?

I know for instance with my double Gemini friend who I've been friends with for ages.. We don't keep in touch regularly.. I can go a couple of weeks without seeing her if we're both busy or whatever.. but we know we are friends.

In the same way a Sag guy (not the one I'm dating) who I have known since high school.. I go months without seeing him but then we always pick up again where we left off and I know we'll always be friends regardless..

Or my Pisces best friend.. if I didn't see her for a while or she didn't call and I didn't either.. who cares? We can call a week later and go out then.

Mutable signs are more likely to drift in and out - both in friendships and relationships.. but they actually have very long lasting friendships - in my experience.

Why is this bothering you so much.. Is it lack of trust in him? Look at it this way, if he keeps coming back - he obviously cares about you.. If my double Gemini friend didn't like me - I bet she wouldn't call a week later - or two weeks later - or at all for that matter.. neither would the Sag guy - neither would my best friend.

There is a difference between someone being the way they are – because that is their personality – and someone playing games. Has he ever given you any reason to believe he is acting a certain way intentionally to annoy you?

It doesn’t seem that way from what you’ve posted so far.

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CoralFrequency
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posted June 23, 2007 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soconfused, there is no reason for you to not live your life and date other people of be-friend other people male or female.. You are not on stand by for this person.. This is not a relationship - as far as I understand.

If you were happy and everything was fine - I don't see why you would mind him drifting in and out.. Do you particularly need him for something every single week? Is the plumbing not working? or maybe he needs to fix the shower?? lol

I don't know..

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MUSTANG
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posted June 23, 2007 12:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is more than a friend and she doesn't trust him. She said so in a roundabout way.

He sounds shady from what she's said. And she knows it on an instinctual level, but she doesn't want to believe it's true.

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CoralFrequency
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posted June 23, 2007 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mustang, he hasn’t hurt her in any way.. nor does he have the ability to hurt her (even if he turned out shady).. unless – Soconfused - *you* do things with him you don’t feel comfortable with.. and then regret it – but no one is asking you or forcing you to do *that*..

Just keep it light while you feel you don't trust him.. don't get physical and keep it at friend level - or kiss or whatever - but obviously don't have sex with someone you don't trust..

That doesn't mean you can't stay in touch with him and talk when he calls.. or have a crush on him like he has a crush on you – It doesn't have to be the most serious thing in the world.

What I don't understand is .. would your life be any different if he wasn't in it at all? Is there a reason you don’t want him there… like would it somehow improve your life experience to say : "Stop keeping in touch Mr Pisces." If you think that it would make your life better for him to never keep in touch again – then by all means..

What I'm saying is whether he drifts in and out.. how does it affect you and *why*.. He can drift in and out all he likes.. if he has done nothing wrong - why not be mates with him?

Whatever you could do without him in you life.. you can also do with him drifting in and out of your life.. This really shouldn’t affect you in any way – unless you have expectations about how a guy should be making your life better – which he isn't living up to – and that you cannot let go off..

If that's the case – let go of expectations about someone else.. improving your life.. This isn't someone else's job. It's yours.

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MUSTANG
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posted June 23, 2007 01:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She said she doesn't trust him. I think if you don't trust someone, you're onto something. They either: have hurt you before, or you fear (maybe irrationally) that they'll hurt you at some point in the future.

Now, if she is insecure by nature, then maybe he hasn't hurt her before. Or she just likes him and is afraid of being hurt.

I feel there is a romantic undertone, because she wouldn't care so much otherwise. She would also be able to be firm with him and keep him out of her life. Since she prayed that "People that were 'bad' for her would stay away," I put two and two together and inferred that she thinks he's bad for her.

Maybe I'm wrong, but from everything she's said, she is uncomfortable with him in her life, yet can't stay away from him. That equals stronger feelings than friendship to me.

PS- What guy wants to cook you dinner if they don't like you romantically? And what woman, if they don't like the guy romantically has angst over it?

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CoralFrequency
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posted June 23, 2007 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just think people should keep their options open more.. and leave- whether it gets serious or not.. up to fate. I'm sure she's bound to find one guy (out of the billion out there) who she does trust and who she finds reliable.. and it might be Mr Pisces to (trust grows in time).. but Soconfused, I think you should look into it a bit more.. and see who else is out there.. then make up your mind a few months down the track – as to who you trust – and who you could see yourself with seriously (if you 'want a serious thing - at this point in your life)
When you have more options – you can decide who is best for you..

Don't box yourself into one guy – before you are in a relationship with him.. It's not a good idea in my opinion. But no reason to diss him either.. Like you said , he has done nothing wrong yet.. Study him a while longer.. Take it from my Cap Mars.. You might trust him eventually..

Maybe you could do something sporty together - That builds trust.. Play tennis or something.. Go rock climbing! or sky dive together.. If he lets go of your hand - you'll *know*.. lol

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MUSTANG
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posted June 23, 2007 01:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See, I don't like leaving my choices up to fate, especially if I don't trust someone. I feel if there is an issue with trust, (depending what it's based on), it is a bad idea to not listen to that instinct.

But ultimately it's SoConfused choice.

I do think she should tell him she wants to see him more regularly, since it seems that's what she wants.

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samsara
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posted June 23, 2007 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had similar problems.There is someone in my life I no longer wish was there too.it makes me very upset when she says'Hey leave me alone."when i know it's her that won't leave me alone. There are issues of privacy here.Do I like this person? yes. But even I have my limits.It's been torture. I don't think she treats bher worst enemies as badly as she does me.What does she get out of this? Just let me go is what I would say. If i coudl talk to her directly rioght now I'd say"Haven't I been through enough? You made a fool out of me. Stole my privacy . rejected and insulted me. What more do you want? Just move on. You've defeated me in every possible way.Just move on.Find someone you really like and let me go.The world is full of good people. Find someone you can really meet and be with and actually have a real realtionship with.I'm a broken defeated person. My life has been hard enougn without you hurting me even more.Especially since i felt so much about you once.Out of respect for that. just go please."

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CoralFrequency
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posted June 24, 2007 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one in this world can harm you, unless you let them.

I think you should make a list of what you want in life - to build that for yourself.. and stop worrying about what ill willed people have to say. Some people will love you - some will hate you - some have mental problems and they create dramas.. Trust me when I say this - their drama can't touch you - unless you let it happen. You need boundaries.. and you need to think about life more so in terms of "you" and what "you want" and "what you need" not what "they want" or "what they think".

Samsara, please don't say victimizing things to yourself such as: "made a fool of me", "stole my privacy", "I'm a broken person" etc.. I'm sure there are nicer things you could say to yourself about your personality and where you are in life - rather than defining yourself in accordance to what some - so and so - had to say..

It's not healthy for you to do that.. and it's untrue. You are not a broken defeated person, unless you choose to see yourself in that negative light.

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posted June 25, 2007 11:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't pray for specific people - just people that shouldn't be in my life.

yeah - I pretty much feel the same about anyone - male or female

I don't think he's doing it to intentionally annoy me - but he makes a plan to work with me on some graphics and then has to cancel last minute - so finally I got fed up with it and told him he was on his own - now I haven't been making the effort - I leave it up to him, but since I hadn't heard from him - I figured he didn't need my help anymore.

Well, originally, it statred out as romantic , but I don't trust him. I knew him many years ago becuase he dated my friends co-worker and I have seen him ot once in a while over the years. I remebered why he and that girl broke up, which is why I don't trust him. Yes, I know people change but I'm not sure he has changed that much and I don't need that kind of aggravation in my life.

I've basically told him so, but he keeps contacting me - hence why I wanted to know if you could tell from a chart why this is happening.


Thanks everyone for your input

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samsara
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posted June 25, 2007 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SoConfused,

I just want to say one thing. I think I misunderstood the spirit of your post.Please forgive me if I came on too strong. With a gentle intent I say,"sorry".


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soconfused
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posted June 25, 2007 02:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries samsara ! I didn't take it bad at all

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soconfused
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posted June 25, 2007 07:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mustang - are you a guy or a girl?

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MUSTANG
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posted June 25, 2007 11:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I'm a woman. Did you think I was a guy? Online,almost everyone thinks I'm a male.

Now that you've given more detail the whole thing makes so much more sense. You don't trust him because of past behaviour and you can tell he hasn't changed.

I don't know what the synastry would be, because I don't do synastries, but it sounds to me like he can't, or won't, respect your boundaries. If you have his natal info, could check that for you.


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posted June 26, 2007 06:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I wasn't sure which gender you were.
Do you drive a mustang or do you like horses? LOL

I don't know what time he was born - I'm going to try and find out - I know that would help

Thanks

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posted June 26, 2007 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi coral,


Thanks for being kind enough to reply to my post. You rright about looking at mysefl with kind of a victim mentality. That's something I have to work on. For the most part I like myself. As far as the person i referenced in my post goes, I have a sinking feeling that we're going to drift off into the land of eternal stalemate again. I;m starting to realize that's the best I'm ever going to get with this person. Once I make up my mind to live with it. I get clear headed and make peace with it. And then I can move on. I really think this person and i are blocking each other from finding the right people in our lives.Because if we were both honest, it's just been n too long and too hard a road for us. It just isn't meant to be.

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posted June 26, 2007 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes, one more thing. I think we have to be very careful also with " never a victim." thinking. Because what's implied in the stament is that there is "never a victimizer." .
This can give people the idea that anything they do to people is ok becuase their just"victims" and it's their karma etc.
This can be a convinient rationalization for being dishonest and cruel. You know,"Oh ,I did nothing wrong they just play the victim.". I truly believe people use this as an excuse to be immoral and sadistic and still feel good about themselves.
The truth is ,if we hurt people , karmic baggage or not, we are responsable. Otherwise there wouldn't be karma or conscience or that little thing called guilt. I'm all for not being a "victim ' and being strong and taking responsability for your life.
But be careful when you say there are no victims because that means there are no vcitimizers and there are enough people in this world willing to hurt others and do the wrong thing without offering this rationalization .

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