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Ann7
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posted June 27, 2007 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a lot has to do with individual placements but in general, do Cap men pursue a woman if they are interested or tend to withdraw? I've researched and read about both traits. And are they always so hard to read? Just wondering if anyone has had any experiences.

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posted June 27, 2007 11:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ann, I'm half-involved with a Cap (was fully for a while), who also has venus in Cap, and he's the most frustrating person alive! He cautious and frigid when it comes to his emotional involvement in things. He prefers things to stay happy-go-lucky and "clean" when it comes to feelings. He's distant, but thinks of himself as open and receptive. I feel like I have to drag real conversations out of him. He's self-centered.

Also, he's incredibly smart, funny, odd, loyal, honest and a good lover...

Half-involved is enought for me right now...

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AcousticGod
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posted June 29, 2007 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds about right.

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CoralFrequency
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posted June 29, 2007 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never met a self-centered Capricorn. Did you say that because of an interpretation you read.. or is it the way you perceive him?

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Ann7
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posted June 29, 2007 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Eightdegrees ... The one I'm wondering about is a total enigma. His moods change quickly and veer between happy go lucky, serious and somber, hyper sensitive and then closed off. I don't know if he's coming or going. He can be quite full of himself and then other times shy and super sweet. One minute I think he wants me and the next minute he acts like he doesn't care. To say it's frustrating would be an understatement. ... At the same time he is dynamic, fascinating and incredibly sexy... Probably the sexiest man I have ever met {Scorp rising maybe?} I'm just wondering how Cap men act when they are interested in someone. Do they go after what they want or become shy and reserved? I'm just trying to read this particular Cap and it hasn't been easy. lol.

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posted June 30, 2007 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Capricorn [male].

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I'm just wondering how Cap men act when they are interested in someone. Do they go after what they want or become shy and reserved?

Here too we can be ambivalent (a word my girlfriend just taught me by way of saying that I'm that way). In all cases I would say that your chances of being with him are better if he knows you like him. You liking us is always a great path for getting us to reciprocate the feelings.

The story with my current girlfriend is that there was a really pleasant introductory phone call the day before we met (to arrange meeting the next day), and the next day after spending the day together we were essentially together. Of course I didn't realize that she'd move out here from the East Coast to be with me, so it could have ended as just a vacation fling for her. I should probably explain that she won a weekend trip to San Francisco, and one of her friends, who is an online friend of mine, asked me if I'd meet her when she came out. So things happened quickly in this instance. The communicational rapport between us was strong from the start, so it was easy to be attracted to her, and I'll admit that the thought of being a vacation fling was kind of exciting to me.

A different story of me getting together with someone shows the other side. The girl was my roommate's sister. She came around fairly often, and I had heard that she was attracted to me. I liked that, but I didn't act on it. She was cute, but there was nothing really compelling me into action. Capricorns don't at all mind taking their time, so it wasn't any big deal to me to wait and ponder on it all I wanted. Of course, before I was through pondering on it she got over me (a month had probably passed). She figured I wasn't interested, and stopped coming around as much. That's when I realized I liked having her around, so very shortly after, when I heard that she was over, I strolled out and made my move. It was a typically brash (though calculated) and unexpected, out-of-the-blue move, and it worked (as has generally been the case throughout my life. --No, the move isn't the same every time; it's just got the same kind of awkward-but-bold delivery--)

In general, I'd have to say that Capricorns probably come across as the shy type. We've got the Cardinal initiation, though, so we'll generally do something if we're interested.

If we know you and we're friends with you, then it could just be spending more time with you. I know that that's pretty darn subtle, but it's true. If you're generally clued-in to subtlety, then you should begin to see signs of what he's feeling. I know I've put myself out there very clearly (to the well-tuned eye) while remaining rather aloof and vague. I want to see that you're smart enough to know where my mind is at. Put the pieces together. Do the pieces say that he's interested, or is there some disqualifying thing he's done or statement he's said that would you think that he definitely isn't in to you?

Observing the subtleties of human nature is an infinitely rewarding thing to do in general. There is so much insight to gain from the information that isn't given to you directly.

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Ann7
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posted June 30, 2007 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Acoustic God and thank you for your input. The Cap in question has been an on again / off again kind of relationship - currently off. But we still contact each other every now and then via email, usually to share new music we've found or an interesting website, etc. Most times with me being the one to initiate contact with him. I don't want to chase him too much because I feel he'd probably view it as clingy which would turn him off and, honestly, I'm hoping that he'd come after me.

Our story is that we met a year ago, dated on and off, came together more seriously around January and started talking about being exclusive (his idea). This relationship was very intense for me {possibly due to his moon being in my eighth house and mine in his fourth and several double whammy's?} I knew this man is someone I could be serious with and being a Scorpio sun with Saturn in the fifth, I tend to be very cautious in relationships. He seemed to be sending mixed signals so I pulled away for fear that his feelings weren't as serious as mine. Basically, I didn't want this man to break my heart. He is a great guy and has never done anything malicious or disrespectful, it's just very hard to understand where he's coming from. If he gave me any indication that he felt the same, I'd come right out with how I'm feeling... But I'm not getting that off of him and fear of rejection has taken over. Also, I'm pretty sure he knows I adore and respect him, because I've told him on numerous occasions.

I can't stop thinking about the guy and it's FRUSTRATING!!! :/

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posted June 30, 2007 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ann - Acoustic God gave some great input about the workings of the Capricorn Male. I hope he gives you some further advice, but if you don't mind, I'm gonna butt in and give you my opinion again. And it's not what you want to hear.

The only way you're going to learn what he wants is by directly asking him. And since he already feels rejected, you'll likely have to first share some of your true feelings before he'll start to share his. Trust me, you're not gonna get any clues about how a Scorpio ASC really feels if he's decided not to show it. A direct conversation would be the only way to the truth.

From his point of view, he already took the risk by bringing up the idea of being exclusive and then you dumped him. He's probably thinking you got a taste of what he had to offer and didn't want it. That rejection alone would make him reluctant to show any feelings he may still have.

I know the idea of honestly expressing your thoughts and feelings is terrifying but think about it...if you're anything like me, few guys get under your skin and into your head like this guy did. Don't let an oportunity for a deep connection pass you by b/c of fear of showing how deep that connection is. There's always a risk with sharing your heart so purely, but with a Cap/Leo/Scorpio, it may be what you have to do before he'll share his. And if he doesn't feel the same, you really wouldn't have lost anything, b/c if anything you'll earn his respect for your guts and honesty.

I understand that being honest like this may be harder for a Scorpio than a Sag though. I only have a Scorpio ASC and Mercury-Uranus, and lord knows I've kept my true feelings hidden many, many times. But the times when I've been honest, I've always benefited. So I've gone from the most extreme chicken when it comes to love to a risk-taker. You may find that you like it too. But really, what it comes down to is--do you want to know how he really feels? If you do, his patient Cap Sun and secretive Scorpio Asc won't be revealing anything. The only way to know is to talk with him about it.

The only alternative I can think of is if you become very flirtatious with him. Depending on how he reacts, you may be able to tell if he's still interested. But again, that Scorpio ASC is very talented at hiding what it doesn't want revealed. (Thanks to my Scorpio ASC, I win most poker games. )

But this is just my opinion. I'm interested in what Acoustic God thinks since he is a Cap Fella.

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posted June 30, 2007 09:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes I wonder whether these men are even alive.

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Ann7
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posted June 30, 2007 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
{{{Jane}}} It gets complicated. In the very beginning, I told him exactly how I felt and was pretty much shot down. I got the friends w/ benefits that could maybe lead into more down the road schpeel.... then I got the "you're a great girl but this isn't working" email shortly after.... Probably because I gave him a very sarcastic response to the friends w/ benefits line. I have never been the kind of person to enter into that kind of relationship and was kind of insulted...Anyway... I told him that if that is how he really felt that I wasn't going to contact him anymore and that I genuinely wished him well {and I did - don't like to leave things on bad terms). Three weeks later, after no contact, he emails me with a joke email - obviously testing the waters... So we started emailing in a friendly way. Shortly after that we had a bit of a blow out over something {that I wont get into right now, lol} That led to semi insulting emails every three weeks or so initiated by both of us but my philosophy on that is that when you're over it --you're over it--. If I wasn't interested, I wouldn't be communicating with him at all. Eventually we smoothed things over and were back on friendly terms. I helped him out when he went into the hospital for Knee surgery, he in return took me out to dinner and it all started back again from there, leading up to New Years Eve which was the most incredible night ever!!! and I mean EVER!!! lol - After that I asked him where he was at with "us" and he said he didn't want to see anyone else. We had an awesome few weeks together but in that time I was getting the mixed signals. He would talk about his ex a lot and he still had his profile up on the dating site from where we met {this is getting to be like a soap opera, lol, sorry}- Being that he was sending mixed signals and knowing how much I cared for him, I pulled away. We've managed to stay in contact though, usually with me subtly chasing him. I guess you're right, I'll have to be up front. I'm just afraid I'll get rejected again. It's like we're trying to dance but we both have two left feet.

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Ann7
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posted June 30, 2007 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL @ Twinkle ... Trust me, they have their moments when they can be very alive.

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posted June 30, 2007 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah to bad it only comes out once every millenium llololol

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jane
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posted June 30, 2007 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ann - Ugh, "friends with benefits". Not my scene either. When I met my bf, those were pretty much the only relationships he was in at that time, so I thought he was such a player and not my type. I made it clear to him that I would never be into that. I'd rather have an exclusive relationship that lasts 2 weeks than some casual, no-strings deal that lasts years. No-strings relationships have the worst kind of string b/c you can't fall in love. Well, you could, but that's when things get messy and usually end. And it just seems twisted to me that a relationship falls apart when someone falls in love.

That's my tangent on friends with benefits.

You guys do have a complicated relationship. Not quite soap opera material though. Now, if one of you died and then came back to life but pretended to be an evil twin, then you would be.

Sounds like New Years Eve was a Pluto conjunct Mars evening.

He certainly wasn't an ideal bf--talking about the ex, keeping up his profile--but that doesn't mean that he didn't honestly want to be exclusive. Maybe before mentioning how you feel about him, first you could tell him about how those 2 things made you insecure and that's why you ended things. That way, you're not revealing too much...not letting him know that you still care...but you are letting him know that you didn't end things b/c of not wanting him, but b/c you hadn't felt secure that he wanted you. Knowing that, he may be less fearful of being rejected and be more open with you if he still has feelings. So by discussing those things first, you won't have to reveal too much of your feelings if you're uncomfortable with doing that.

If you've already clearly explained to him why you ended things, then just sending out the signal that you're inerested should be enough to get a response. If you don't get one, maybe it would be better to move on to someone more responsive, as hard as it is to leave a Pluto-Mars conjunction.

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