posted July 06, 2007 05:02 PM              

your take on Venus-aspects is very interesting.
I`ve always wondered how they might play out.

If I had a Venus-Sun-conjunction with one man, and a Venus-Mars-conjunction with the other one, and I was Venus in both cases, which man would I feel drawn to more?
If I understood it right, then both men would be attracted to my Venusian qualities, a mere physical attraction, but I would be affected on a deeper level. In the one case I would feel attracted to the personality of the Sun-person, but what would I be attracted to in the Mars-person?
Would that be a more palpable physical attraction to him, more physical than in the case of the Sun-person?

posted July 07, 2007 03:27 AM            

Darkdreamer, the man you would be more drawn to would be the man you have more interaspects with, especially Sun, Moon and ASC.

posted July 07, 2007 03:51 AM              

Sun Cancer 20°25'50
Moon Sagittarius 22°49'38---Capricorn 4°29'11
Mercury Leo 1°51'22
Venus Leo 15°18'48
Mars Aries 13°54'13
Jupiter Aquarius 9°23'57
Saturn Gemini 27°38'57
Uranus Libra 19°03'00
Neptune Sagittarius 4°58'24
Pluto Libra 1°56'09
True Node Capricorn 7°42'08

and my chart is
Sun Libra 24°56'59 in house 4
Moon Libra 0°56'36 in house 3
Mercury Scorpio 16°40'41 in house 5
Venus Scorpio 9°23'07 in house 4
Mars Leo 13°51'01 in house 1
Jupiter Virgo 3°36'34 in house 2
Saturn Virgo 21°53'49 in house 3
Uranus Scorpio 19°42'04 in house 5
Neptune Sagittarius 18°22'18 in house 5
Pluto Libra 19°22'10 in house 4
True Node Virgo 7°42'06 in house 3

though the houses may be slightly out with me as my birth time is questionable..but it was late and I def have a Libra moon. I don't know his birth time.

posted July 07, 2007 03:56 AM            

IMO, I think venus and mars represent femininity and masculinity but the sun and moon also do....in a more mature way.

Plus I think the moon's love is way more unconditional than venus' love. Venus' love is sexual and the 'I'll love you'll if...." but with the moon the words "love" and "if" are never used in the same sentence.

posted July 07, 2007 01:51 PM            

Hi DarkDreamer,

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If I had a Venus-Sun-conjunction with one man, and a Venus-Mars-conjunction with the other one, and I was Venus in both cases, which man would I feel drawn to more?

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You would feel drawn to them in different ways. You would be more loving of the Sun person and more sexually attracted to the Mars person.. In the beginning, you might think Mars is all for you and the Sun would come in 2nd.. but once the initial sexual attraction (with Mars) dies down.. you would probably prefer the Sun.. because Mars is a bit too brash and rough.. whereas the Sun is calmer and more refined. You’d see the Sun as - long term..

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If I understood it right, then both men would be attracted to my Venusian qualities, a mere physical attraction, but I would be affected on a deeper level.

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Judging by this aspect alone, that's true.. but 'mere physical attraction' isn't how I'd put it.. because they would be over the top attracted. Attracted like.. you'd say "jump of a bridge.. and I'll kiss you" and they would. Disclaimer: do not say jump of a bridge.. specially not to the Mars guy

You'd have to look at rest of the synastry as well though.. If you had something like a Moon/Moon conjunction or a Sun/Moon conjunction, they would also be attracted to you on a deeper level.

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In the one case I would feel attracted to the personality of the Sun-person, but what would I be attracted to in the Mars-person?

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I tried to explain this in my previous post, but I think Cappadora put it perfectly, because that's exactly how things felt, in my situation.. The easiest way to explain it is, you would be in love with Mars' physical attraction for you.. You'd think it was the sweetest thing..

For at least the first few months.. Mars could do no wrong in your eyes.. whatever action Mars takes seems sweet and entertaining.. even ugly actions seem beautiful.. Actually Mars loves doing things around you.. just because they feel like you love them for it.. so they'll pull out seats, open doors.. stuff like that.. and they'll visibly move, walk and behave a bit differently around you.. to get your attention..

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Would that be a more palpable physical attraction to him, more physical than in the case of the Sun-person?

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posted July 08, 2007 06:07 AM              

Venus(girl) trine pluto(boy)... What are anyones thoughts on this apart from a profound love?
--Venus loves plutos passion and intensity, they feel that plutos deepness and desire for them is a very beautiful thing. Venus loves feeling truly passionatly desired by pluto who makes venus feel very L.O.V.E.D.

posted July 08, 2007 07:34 AM            

LET'S FALL IN LOVE, BABY! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?

posted July 08, 2007 07:44 AM              

thank you for your thorough reply.

"You would be more loving of the Sun person and more sexually attracted to the Mars person"
Yes, that makes sense to me. Or this is how I experienced it. In the case with the Sun-Venus-conjunction it´s a very sweet, adoring feeling on my side, but not that strong physical attraction, even though there is a rather moderate attraction. it´s calmer, more peaceful, but therefor very lasting. And I tried to get that feeling out of my system so to speak (the Venus-Sun-conjunction is also square my Pluto).

"because they would be over the top attracted. Attracted like.. you'd say "jump of a bridge.. and I'll kiss you" and they would."
*grins* that sounds VERY appealing to me, must be my long neglected Venusian-side, enjoying some sort of attention, at least astrologically.

"Disclaimer: do not say jump of a bridge.. specially not to the Mars guy "
I try to keep that in mind, when I meet him.

"You'd have to look at rest of the synastry as well though.. If you had something like a Moon/Moon conjunction or a Sun/Moon conjunction, they would also be attracted to you on a deeper level."
That makes sense, but there is nothing like that.

Regarding aspects to Sun, Moon, ASC, Venus and Mars.
In the Sun-Venus-case it`s: (only looking at main bodies, not asteroids)

His Sun:
conjunct my Venus (1)
sextile my Jupiter (3)
square my Pluto (1)
square my nadir (4)

His Moon:
sextile my Sun (2)
sextile my Mercury (3)
conjunct my Uranus (3)

His ASC:
conjunct my Mars (4)
square my Jupiter (2)
conjunct my Neptune (0)
sextile my Pluto (0)
conjunct my ASC (2)
cônjunct my NN (0)

His Venus:
sextile my Moon (4)
square my Jupiter 82)
conjunct my Neptune (3)
conjunct my ASC (6)
conjunct my NN (3)

His Mars:
conjuncts my Mars (6) - too wide?

My Sun:
sextile his Moon (2)

My Moon:
sextile his Mercury (3)
sextile his Venus (4)
trine his Saturn (1)

My ASC:
conjunct his Venus (6) - probably too wide
conjunct his Neptune (0)
sextile his Pluto (3)
conjunct his ASC (2)

my Venus:
conjuncts his Sun (1)
square his Pluto (2)
square his Nadir (2)

my Mars:
conjuncts his Venus (8) - too wide, but it`s also parallel
conjuncts his Neptune (1)
sextile his Pluto (0)
conjuncts his ASC (4)

In the Venus-Mars-conjunction-case it is:

His Sun:
conjuncts my Sun-Moon-mp (1,5)
conjuncts my Antivertex (1,5)

His Moon:
sextile my sun (4)
sextile my Mercury (5)
conjuncts my Uranus (0)

His ASC:
sextile my Sun (4)
sextile my Mercury (5)
conjuncts my Moon (4,5)

His Venus:
squares my Mars (5)
conjuncts my Jupiter (1)
squares my Neptune (0)
squares my NN (0)
squares my ASC (3)

His Mars:
conjuncts my Venus (3,5)
squares my Pluto (0)
sextile my Jupiter (2)
square my Nadir (4)

My Sun:
sextile his Moon (4)
sextile his ASC (4)

My Moon:
opposite his Saturn (2)
sextile his Neptune (2)
trine his Pluto (2)
conjunct his ASC (4,5)
trine his Nadir (2)

my ASC:
square his Venus (3)

my Venus:
conjunct his Mars (3,5)
conjunct his Mercury (2)
sextile his Venus (3)

My Mars:
square his Venus (5)

How would you judge those placements as a whole?

posted July 08, 2007 06:41 PM            

I would have one additional question on venus and I would be really grateful if you could share your experience in that respect as well!!

The thing is...venus in house overlays...

With me I have always noticed that when someone has their venus conjunct my venus, my attraction to the them is off the chart. HOWEVER, my venus is in the 7th house in my natal chart. And some would say, well 7th house has such an idealized, romantized overtone...no surprise you are attracted to their venus (conjunct your venus)....After all their venus is in your 7th house...SO I guess I'm not really 'objective' to that topic.

However, I would tend to argue whenever someone's venus is conjunct your venus you will be attracted to them. Even if your venus (and therefore their venus as well) falls in one of the more neutral houses such as the 10th, 9th, 11th, 3rd. Because they will be exactly how you express and what you seek to experience through your venus.

So for instance if your venus is in the 11th house you'll really value friendship and if someone else's venus is conjunct your venus and hence falls in your 11th house they'll be EXACTLY what you want from venus....even though the 11th house isnt traditionally speaking the most romantic house.FOR YOU it will have a distinct romantic 7th house flavour because YOUR venus sits there and it will set the tone of that 11th house.

So do you agree???? Have you noticed that even if your natal venus doesnt fall into one of the more romantic (natal) houses such as the 5th or the 7th, whenever someone's venus is conjunct your venus, you will experience that placement as extremely romantic??

posted July 09, 2007 06:17 AM            

It's a bit hard to tell, without seeing the charts.. but as far as I can see you only have sextiles at Sun/Moon level with the Sun/Venus guy.. whereas with the Mars/Venus guy – you have conjunctions.
Judging by this, I would think the relationship with Mars/Venus guy would be more serious.. Sun/Moon conjunctions overpass a lot of negatives in synastry and they are a very strong indicator of marriage and a long term relationship..
You might feel a bit over-stimulated though.. like it's too much of a good thing.. since you have a Mars/Venus conjunction.. Sun/Moon conjunction… and then also your own Mars square his Venus..
Like you said, the relationship with the Sun/Venus guy seems more peaceful..

Annaf,

My Venus is in the 11th house.. I haven't experienced Venus conjunct Venus as very attractive, just nice.. The one guy I can think of who I had this with was a Gemini.. I saw him as a friend to the point where I could not see him as anything else and I had no idea he did.. One of his friends told me Gem liked me but I always thought he was making it up.. so I completely ignored it.. Later on, Gemini guy said it himself. If there ever was a time I felt like disappearing off the face of the planet that was it.

posted July 09, 2007 07:14 AM            

his sun trine my venus
his moon square my venus
my moon conjunct his venus
his venus sextile my pluto
my venus trine his pluto

Haven't had these sort of 'nice' connections with a man before, I really like it but it scares me. I'm not ready for anything after the pisces and I'm pretty sure he knows that- and yet he's still around since we had a brief fling last september.
Not that he's put his life on hold at all in any way

posted July 09, 2007 07:31 AM              

well, you`re right the thing with the Sun-Venus-guy feels more peaceful, more calm, whereas my feelings for the Mars-Venus-guy just plainly scare me. Even though it`s rather impossible to get close to him, it`s equally impossible to get him off my mind.
However, we don`t have a Sun-Moon-conjunction, maybe that was a misunderstanding.
We only have a strong connection between the Sun-moon-midpoints.
My sun-Moon-midpoint is conjunct his Sun and his sun-Moon-midpoint is conjunct my NN.
don`t know if that counts.

posted July 17, 2007 02:34 PM            

The thought that comes to mind for me is...

What if you have great Venus aspects on one person's part and not so great on the other...Would that result in an unbalanced relationship?

For example, in Magi astrology they say that a grand trine w/ Chiron and Venus is a sure sign of marriage.

I have this with my guy....

In Cancer:

My Jupiter, Karma, and MC are conjunct his Mars, Venus, and Moon (w/i 3 degrees)

These trine my Sun and Chiron in Pisces

and my Neptune in Scorpio.

There's also a sextile forming a kite) of his Venus/Mars/Moon with my Uranus and Pluto in Virgo (wider orb..5 degrees)

and a kite w/ his Jupiter and my name asteroid in Taurus...

All that looks lovey dovey....BUT

my Venus (Aries) falls in his 7th house and is square his Venus and Mars, quincunx his Juno (Scorpio) and sextile his Saturn (Pisces 1 degree).

I read that Venus square Venus means that you have different tastes in things...to some degree this is true. What about the Venus in 7th square his Mars?

Also...if one person's Venus is hugely aspected (as his is) and the other's isn't so much (like mine) does it indicate imbalance?

Thanks all!

8th

posted July 17, 2007 02:57 PM            

Forgot to add one thing...my Neptune in Scorpio is also conjunct his Juno w/i one degree...

posted July 25, 2007 05:50 AM              

first of all: Venus square Mars can be a very hot and passionate combination, if you like it a bit dramatic.
It`s certainly not a very balanced kind of attraction.
But apart from that:
You say: your Venus fall into his 7th house and squares his Mars.
Where does his Mars fall? Into his 4th or 10th house?
Well, in that case you may very well be the walking image of his "ideal irresistible woman" (Venus always has a very seductive note, but in my book she is more sensual than sexual; and no, I don`t necessarily see "seductive" as being something bad, as long as you don`t seduce each other into doing something nasty.).
However, with his Mars in the 10th house he might be also a very ambitious guy or he needs to spend much time with his work, and that will clash with his wish to be with you and work on his relationship.
Or if his Mars falls into his 4th house, maybe there are problems at home, with the house or in his own family that cause challenges in your relationship?