posted July 01, 2007 11:29 AM              

Could someone please tell me what is the etiquette of getting replies on this board? I always get the feeling i am asking annoying questions....

Would really love to hear from Venus in Scorpios, or Scorpio Suns with or without Venus in Scorpio....

I met this Scorpio Sun, Venus in Scorpio woman about 7 months ago and too say I am baffled would be an understatement.

I have no idea what I mean to her, are we friends, does she want more? Sometimes I think she fancies me, other people have mentioned she might be in love with me, sometimes i feel i mean nothing ot her...

When I confronted her she said she did not see me in that way... I was like fine no hard feelings, i then left the place where we worked together thinking i probably would not hear frm her much again.

Instead me seem to speak almost every day now, via email, text, phone. Always seems to bee under the pretense that i am helping her. At the moment am helping or trying to help her get a new job. Then another friend commented that what am i helping her with that no one else cannot help her with?

This other friend commented that the Scorpio gal is keeping communication open with me..

posted July 01, 2007 11:39 AM            

All I can say is this... Be on guard; Scorpio women are unpredictable enough as they are; Throw in a strong Venus and expect things to get really passionate Lol!

These women are nothing if not upfront about their views and well if she says that she wants to be just friends then let it be at that; If she would want something more then she will let you know that herself.

I personally love women like that. They like to play but they play with higher stakes and usually have the determination to win and once a Scorpio puts is/her mind to something, they end up achieveing it 99% of the time Lol!

posted July 01, 2007 12:06 PM            

Other aspects in the chart would have to be taken into account in order to get an accurate interpretation, but GENERALLY, those with this placement crave problems and challenges in relationships because these bring about intensity (Scorpio is all about intensity). What they love even more is something that eludes them.

When you confronted her about her feelings for you and when she responded that she didn't really have any romantic feelings, you handled the rejection calmly. This baffles Scorpio (especially Venus in Scorpio) women. Why? Well, it's all or nothing with them. They experience everything so intensely and passionately, that they can't comprehend such a calm response such as yours.

Through observation, I've noticed that when you reject a Venus in Scorpio person, they don't handle it with such a calm response. I noticed that they either cry, shout hurtful words, storm off, etc. Whatever their reaction, it is anything but calm and collected.

Thus, when you said it was ok that she didn't like you and there are no hard feelings, you made her intrigued by you. She probably expected you to become angry or have some other outburst, but instead you were calm. As a result, she is very confused and wants to go beneath the surface to understand you. You essentially captured her interest because she views you as a challenge, which is very irresistible to Scorpios. A Scorpio believes that anything worth having means you need to work very hard in order to get it. Basically, she is developing some strong feelings for you-- whether these are feelings of love or obsession is another story...

There is another possibility though: she might be using you. Did she ask you to help her find a job? If so, then she probably views you as someone that can get her what she wants. Venus in Scorpios (at least the ones who embrace their negative qualities) are very manipulative and love to use people. If she suddenly stops all contact with you after obtaining the job, then you'll know she was just using you. However, if she maintains communication, then she wants to maintain some sort of relationship with you. Perhaps it won't be a romantic relationship, but it will at least be friendship.

posted July 01, 2007 12:22 PM            

I agree that other placements in the chart will modify her reactions but I'll give this a shot.

I know, from my experience...that I either like someone (as a friend or lover) or I don't care at all and may become virtually annoyed by their presence..or just very indifferent.

If she said she's not interested in a romantic relationship, she is either

a) not interested
b) indecisive and cautious
c) not interested

(Keep in mind this is only from my experience). I don't like to get backed into corners I can't get out of so I know if I'm not sure if what I feel for someone is geneuine and *means* something, I'm not going to admit to anything without any deep self-research. So I'd probably say I don't want to be more than just friends. While trying to figure myself out...mainly because I hate to make risks, especially in matters of the heart....they're so personal...and being such a private person, those kind of decisions need to be approached witht he utmost care and thoroughest thought possible.

Her keeping communication lines open probably means she's pretty fond of you, as a friend. Being just a friend to someone with a Venus in Scorpio is equally as passionate (if not more..I have Venus in the 11th so Idk how accurate this is) as being a lover, and so it's probably pretty important to her that you two keep in touch.

I agree with Astra too. Though they're not Leos... Scorpio Women love drama. Not the kind of slam doors and put up a big scene drama but emotional drama. In her mind, her saying "just friends" and having you be calm and collected and appear to be unscathed probably stings her pride a bit. She probably wants you to toss and turn at night wondering why. It's part of the spell we weave in relationships of all kinds. Most likely she is intrigued by you and your coolness of character... (I noticed the Aqua-Capricorn..) She's fascinated and want's to understand it...to study it. Mainly because she doesn't get it. So she's keeping you about..probably because we're so controlled and guided by our emotions that she admires your control of character (or so it appears).

Bottom line: She wouldn't waste her time if she didn't care very deeply in one way or another. I say just go with it. See where it leads...

We are an unpredictable sort, after all.

Much love

posted July 01, 2007 01:36 PM            

5 planets in Scorp here, including Sun and Venus...

posted July 01, 2007 03:03 PM              

May I please give some more info about her and describe some incidents that have happenned. I'm even more confused now and
torn. At times I want to forget her because its killing me not being with her, but then I think any contact is better than nothing...Sad or what....

These are her details:-
Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Scorpio 29°07'57 in house 8 direct
Moon Aries 12°42'53 in house 1 direct
Mercury Sagittarius 17°20'32 in house 9 direct
Venus Scorpio 14°17'11 in house 8 direct
Mars Leo 8°50'07 in house 6 direct
Jupiter Cancer 4°50'43 in house 4 retrograde
Saturn Virgo 0°10'47 in house 6 direct
Uranus Scorpio 13°09'41 in house 8 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 15°14'32 in house 9 direct
Pluto Libra 15°43'47 in house 7 direct
True Node Libra 14°34'09 in house 7 direct

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Pisces 7°18'34
2nd House Taurus 7°45'24
3rd House Gemini 4°29'44
Imum Coeli Gemini 22°18'04
5th House Cancer 8°32'28
6th House Cancer 28°23'43
Descendant Virgo 7°18'34
8th House Scorpio 7°45'24
9th House Sagittarius 4°29'44
Medium Coeli Sagittarius 22°18'04
11th House Capricorn 8°32'28
12th House Capricorn 28°23'43

and mine

Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Aquarius 22°33'42 in house 12 direct
Moon Capricorn 16°33'22 in house 11 direct
Mercury Aquarius 18°39'57 in house 12 direct
Venus Aries 2°06'11 in house 1 direct
Mars Taurus 1°03'27 in house 2 direct
Jupiter Capricorn 0°59'24 in house 10 direct
Saturn Taurus 29°42'34 in house 3 direct
Uranus Libra 18°08'28 in house 8 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 5°05'39 in house 9 direct
Pluto Libra 1°39'08 in house 7 retrograde
True Node Aquarius 5°13'37 in house 12 direct

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Pisces 6°30'22
2nd House Aries 16°07'20
3rd House Taurus 18°08'53
Imum Coeli Gemini 14°07'09
5th House Cancer 8°01'12
6th House Leo 3°52'13
Descendant Virgo 6°30'22
8th House Libra 16°07'20
9th House Scorpio 18°08'53
Medium Coeli Sagittarius 14°07'09
11th House Capricorn 8°01'12
12th House Aquarius 3°52'13

When I confronted her about my feelings, i didn't exactly get it out properly, i never told her evrything especially the intensity of my feelings for her. When I realised that I was crashing and burning, i tried to preserve my dignity and made it look like i was confused also....I told her she seemed like my ideal woman but at the same time said we were from different worlds to which she flinched noticeably... She supposed to be getting married or was. Since we've met its changed from getting married in the next few months to now its in 2 years ?!? Thats how we started talking , about her relationship and she admitted she didnt love this guy, its kind of an arranged marriage thing but she found her "choice" herself. The guy seems like a no hoper, crap job, little prospects etc, where thankfully career wise I am doing very well....

From what i've read about what Scorpio women are attracted too, I seem to fit the bill in many categories, or maybe thats me
wanting that, dunno...

One day about after 3 to 4 weeks of knowing each other she came into work and we had a conversation. She began to divulge how
they had "kind of" broken up. I was like ok....(thinking thought Scorpios were private people...). I tried to give her advice from my point of view and described my situation with a girl i was seeing at the time... She countered with "Would you ever leave her". I was like "whoaaaa", very taken aback. For the first time then i thought oh **** i think she likes me....(at
this point I had not fallen for her). To her question i said "i dont know". For the next two weeks it seemed like we talked
and talked and spent a lot fo time together. I think it was flirting, i dont really know... One day we went to lunch and
talked more about our relationships and was pretty convinced she liked me... At the end of lunch i kind of casually said "Maybe another time, another place", at the back of mind thinking well neither of us is really available. We went home for the week end and i had a day off on monday. I emailed her on that monday and made a comment about how we were kindred spirits etc and she responded with "i'm going to be a married woman soon, so stop with the soppy stuff or something like that"

I was like d'oh!!Retreat, retreat.... Despite this at work we seemed to spend more and more time together, to the point that people began to gossip, some joked we were like a married couple, our relationship intensified, we ahd a fight or two. Very bizarre. To astra's point of her using me, i thought the same at one point and again confronted her, pretty much accusing her that she WAS using me... The look in her eyes was a combination of hurt and fury!!! I explained myself, she explained her self, we made up. during this time at times when we were out or with other people, she would make comments like "your like a brother to me" etc... She is different with me when we are alone, and when we are with others she seems indifferent, or not interested. I usually end up staring at her and when she catches me she holds my stare. I've had that stare with other girls and well it is not "brotherly" or "platonic"...

Two nights ago we all went out. I've left that company now and my old work friends were going out, she was the one that invited me not the others although we are all close...I was already at the venue when they all arrived and all gave me a hug and a kiss but not her. Not even a hello, nothing. I had to go up to her and say hey u ok? hello etc... I dont get it at all!! This is how she always is with me. When she leaves everyone gets a hug and a bye except me...A goodbye would suffice not asking for much more....now when out in a group i daren't look towards her coz i'm sure our eyes will meet, it feels like she is watching me, everything i do, she especially notices if i have a drink, she does not drink and dos not approve that i do. All this time we barely speak, i seem to be avoiding her and her me (in the group situations)

Even helping her with the job situation, she seems to have given up on that as she was having no luck, so i do not have any further "use" in that area.... Other times in the 2 months since i left the old company we have been in contstant contact either to do with work, getting a new job. She hates it there and at times emailed me almost pleading for me to help her get out ffrom there.... I've done my best but she has not had the luck. For one interview we spent a whole weekend on the phone. I had a friend over so was trying to get it finished quickly but it felt like she wanted to keep me on the phone. In one 5 hour phone session that weekend we spent 1 hour doing the prep work for the interview, the rest talking about anything else...

2 weeks ago i was at my new work and she had a day off. We had not spoken since the day before on which day she had found out she had not got the job we had both worked really hard prepping for.So that why she had the day off. Anyway iwas at work and all day, i mean all day!, i had a super intense feeling that she would "pop up". I could not understand why, she lives quite far and I work right smack bang in the middle of the city, big tourist attraction etc, but London is a big city and she was at home i thought far away. I work flexi hours so can choose when i come and go. Having finished my jobs for the day i decided to go home having given up on the crazy notion that she was going to pay me a surprise visit. Half way home i got a message on my phone that she was in a diner right next to my building with a friend (who turned out to be male not sure if tahts significant). I was gutted, we ahd missed each other by 10 minutes... How could I ahve known she was going to show up that day I don't get at all, why did i have that premonition all day? very very weird i think anyway...

one thing i should add is that girl she asked if i would leave, i did leave her but we've been in and out of each others lives since. Technically neither myself or scorpio girl are "completely available"...

I'm so confused I've rambled like a crazy person...then i read that i have Saturn vs Neptune opp. in my 7th house where MR Pluto all so resides, i am getting even mroe paranoid... I just want clarity, and if Scorpio lass does not feel for me then why is she driving me round the bend? She must know how i feel about her now, even her supposed husband to be has not helped beyond the call of duty like i have...

thank you very much if you have read so far...

And Isis, I know "no means no". Like I said I've accepted that and have tried really hard to forget her and move on, its almost like she won't let me...

posted July 01, 2007 03:55 PM              

Let me just put it this way on what I have gone through and people whom I personally know. I can't be 100% sure however there is a trend or common factor I see is between Scorpio and Capricorn (Sun/Moon) There was a time when Scorpio were looking for help and the word " USE" or "USER" was given to them by Capricorn. ( That is not how Scorpios are but Capricorn itself are. )

Normally scorpios are known not to take anybody's help. However due to their circumstances they have to.This is very new for scorpios. There are lots of internal and external change and thus they are finding it very difficult to cope with it.

They are with this new people because of both emotional and materialistic reasons. Not sure which reason more than other.However there is this constant internal fight going on that whether this person with whom I am is it because only of help or there is actually something more.

She was confused when she said she isn't sure and she started getting close to you due to her curiosity and possibility of relationship. She initially wanted to be friend and then she was intrigued and curious.

Confusion is rare as normally Scorpio woman knows what they want but this time something has fancied them which isn't exactly what they want but there is a clear potential. Also there are external issues which like give up her old boyfriend whom she was/is in love and change to new guy for you seems to be immoral to her internally.

Scorpio women normally will not think about money but they are now forced to consider tht as criteria in the relationship.

We are bored and we need change, we are going through financial difficulty and also need new direction.

As far as I know give her time and she will come up with solution very soon but that will also mean that she will have to give up her old boyfriend or to whom she is going to get married. It is very difficult time and she is judging pros and cons.

What I would suggest is help her to take decision? Show that you are available and you are willing to commit 100% and don't be confused yourself. If you are confused she will be also confused. Don't worry of showing your emotions to her because she IS SHOWING INTEREST.

Help her to take decision and go through change.Changes are actually internal but need of changing jobs, partners, etc is just reflecting externally.

I am not sure what can you loose by showing your true feelings.Don't go overboard but it will be helpful to know that you are available ,willing to commit and you are looking for future.Once if she will put her mind on you she will make all the changes to get you.

The least would be is that you will help her to make her own decision. If she will realise you were waste of time or serious relationship material.

As I am in the similar situation and in London too.Hope this helps and keep writing what is your /her reaction to it.It will be very helpful to understand my situation too.

I really want to know climax of this story as there is something major going to happen in scorpio's life.

posted July 01, 2007 04:07 PM              

Please, please others join in, looks like there is two of us that needs help!!

Freebird, may i know your placements and the person ur involved with? Maybe we can help each other?

I remembered another "incident" which i thought i was bizarre. One day me and scorpio girl were coming into work together and there happenned to be another attractive girl on the bus. I noticed this other girl she noticed me, harmless appreciation of each other i would have called it... being single at the time there was no reason i couldnt make eyes at thsi girl.... Next think i know Scorpio girl noticed that i was looking at thsi girl and Scorpio girl thrust her i-pod in my face and amde me listen to a song of some sort...

of course i forgot about the other girl... I'm pretty sure Scorpio girl got jealous, but if all i am is a friend then why?

posted July 01, 2007 04:11 PM            

Your story of her sounded quite similar to myself. Don't have Venus conjunct Uranus but it's in the 11th and Uranus is opposite my DC.

posted July 01, 2007 04:16 PM            

This is not a relationship to be taken lightly. In order to be with you, she'll have to give up her fiance, so do not treat her as a fling or she'll get revenge. I can guarantee you that.

Think about why you like her. If your reasons are strictly superficial (i.e. you only like her because of her beauty), then it's best to move on and make your intentions very clear so there is absolutely no chance of misinterpretation.

However, if there is depth to your feelings, then make your feelings known. But make sure you never actually tell her to leave her fiance. Let her decide on her own what she wants to do otherwise she'll resent you.

posted July 01, 2007 04:18 PM              

There is where I see more of similarity.
Also since you are an Air sign she will be missing emotional display which normally water signs does.

There is lot Aries Moon and Capricorn Moon has to learn from each other.

When Aries Moon Says - Let's do it
Capricorn Moon says - Wait let me first plan the strategy

Do you think Aries Moon has time to wait ?
Thus she said I am going to get married very soon.

When she said that why you are being slow is because she is looking for concrete steps fast so she can make her decision and plan her future.

posted July 01, 2007 04:28 PM              

ME :

Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Scorpio 23°10'15 in house 12 direct
Moon Aries 1°08'07 in house 4 direct
Mercury Sagittarius 2°41'27 in house 12 direct
Venus Libra 7°01'44 in house 10 direct
Mars Virgo 28°37'57 in house 10 direct
Jupiter Sagittarius 15°35'56 in house 1 direct
Saturn Scorpio 9°08'19 in house 11 direct
Uranus Sagittarius 8°22'50 in house 12 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 27°40'35 in house 1 direct
Pluto Scorpio 0°23'51 in house 11 direct
True Node Gemini 16°08'04 in house 7 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Sagittarius 13°13'28
2nd House Capricorn 13°16'18
3rd House Aquarius 15°34'55
Imum Coeli Pisces 19°04'00
5th House Aries 20°35'41
6th House Taurus 18°19'04
Descendant Gemini 13°13'28
8th House Cancer 13°16'18
9th House Leo 15°34'55
Medium Coeli Virgo 19°04'00
11th House Libra 20°35'41
12th House Scorpio 18°19'04

Major aspectsSun Trine Moon 7°58
Sun Sextile Mars 5°28
Moon Trine Mercury 1°33
Moon Opposition Venus 5°54
Moon Opposition Mars 2°30
Moon Trine Uranus 7°15
Moon Square Neptune 3°28
Moon Quincunx Pluto 0°44
Mercury Sextile Venus 4°20
Mercury Sextile Mars 4°04
Mercury Conjunction Uranus 5°41
Venus Sextile Uranus 1°21
Mars Square Neptune 0°57
Jupiter Conjunction Ascendant 2°22
Uranus Conjunction Ascendant 4°51
Neptune Sextile Pluto 2°43
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).

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HIM :

Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Libra 20°03'56 in house 11 direct
Moon Capricorn 16°34'53 in house 2 direct
Mercury Libra 18°20'29 in house 11 direct
Venus Virgo 8°46'27 in house 10 direct
Mars Leo 16°51'13 in house 9 direct
Jupiter Taurus 24°47'22 in house 7 retrograde
Saturn Aquarius 28°39'48 in house 3 retrograde
Uranus Virgo 12°51'26 in house 10 direct
Neptune Scorpio 16°33'36 in house 1 direct
Pluto Virgo 15°13'30 in house 10 direct
True Node Gemini 25°18'35 in house 8 direct

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Scorpio 15°24'20
2nd House Sagittarius 14°53'18
3rd House Capricorn 24°42'36
Imum Coeli Pisces 6°00'50
5th House Aries 7°02'33
6th House Aries 29°00'29
Descendant Taurus 15°24'20
8th House Gemini 14°53'18
9th House Cancer 24°42'36
Medium Coeli Virgo 6°00'50
11th House Libra 7°02'33
12th House Libra 29°00'29

Major aspectsSun Square Moon 3°29
Sun Conjunction Mercury 1°43
Sun Sextile Mars 3°13
Moon Square Mercury 1°46
Moon Trine Venus 7°48
Moon Quincunx Mars 0°16
Moon Trine Uranus 3°43
Moon Sextile Neptune 0°01
Moon Trine Pluto 1°21
Moon Sextile Ascendant 1°11
Mercury Sextile Mars 1°29
Venus Conjunction Uranus 4°05
Mars Square Neptune 0°18
Mars Square Ascendant 1°27
Jupiter Square Saturn 3°52
Uranus Sextile Neptune 3°42
Uranus Conjunction Pluto 2°22
Uranus Sextile Ascendant 2°33
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°20
Neptune Conjunction Ascendant 1°09
Pluto Sextile Ascendant 0°11
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).

posted July 01, 2007 09:09 PM            

I wouldn't do that.

and stopped contact with them earlier this year (in february, due to the fact that the person was maybe annoying you or being a bit too intense) and then you contacted that said person months later after saying you never wanted to hear from the person again (in february)...what would that mean. Are you in fact missing that person...or why would you seek contact after not talking for months

Though I wouldn't do that. It sounds like I got mad about something, and just bottled it up. And it made me angrier to know that they didn't know so I wanted to hurt them in revenge. Knowing they like me, by saying I basically hate their guts. Which I probably don't AT ALL. I just want to hurt them in the immediate...and I probably do miss them. I do this to my Sag boyfriend like every other month. We have some huge fight. I tell him I hate his guts (he's a sensitive one..Sun/Neptune/Venus & Moon/Jupiter conjunction). And then 5 hours later, I'm all lovey dovey chalking my outburst up to being hurt and lashing out.

So...It would probably be that typical Plutonian revenge thing...and then later, because I feel I'm so important...I'd act like nothing happened...Cuz we Scorps do have issues with apologizing. Especially if we feel we've been slighted in some way.

Anyway...
If I didn't like a person romantically or platonically, you literally would *never* hear from me again. You'd have a better chance of opening a beauty parlor on Uranus.

posted July 02, 2007 03:47 AM              

Ok...Why would a scorpio do that what you mentioned?

I started relationship with this Libra in December..and I exactly ended also in February.Now I am back with him. I always wanted it to be platonic however it got physical because of him and yes I thought
that time I didn't wanted to or was afraid to admit or was confused whether this relationship is for me as my partner is exactly opposite to what I have been dreaming of.It shatters perfect person image I was carrying from long time.

Not contacting between from February to now is possible weighing the relationship and realising that it is an important part of my life and I want this relationship. Also during this my partner also realised what mistakes he made and so not that intensity or irritation from him. Giving space to each other to actually helped to realise importance of this relationship.

So we are back but we have talked out our problems and we both understand what we want in near future.

Peri: I am great. How have you been ?
I was very busy to actually adjusting myself to London and all internal changes.
Sometimes I wonder why we scorpios live life like opera saga. It is so dramatic.

Do you remember analysing dreams of me not being able to love...well somebody had to actually force love and relationship on me and has an ability to make me vulnerable. I have found now strength to be vulnerable too.Who else could teach to love someone other than Libra ?

posted July 02, 2007 10:07 AM              

I'm a scorpio sun, venus and mercury. I agree with some of the others about scorpio being very black and white/all or nothing and that she said no so she means no.