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darkdreamer
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posted July 14, 2007 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

I'm rereading Blashke's book on relationships again. Regarding karmic synastric connection he sais, that

the lights (Sun, Moon) or Saturn in the water houses definitely are a sign of karmic relations,

In the 4th house it's about family karma. those planets in the 12th house show that two souls have spent two or more recent lives together, and that the planet person comes into the house's persons life to free himm / her spiritually.
In the 8th house now the sees the possibility of deep transformative love, but also possible tragedy and painful loss.
but he also states that it's the aspects that show if it's easy or painful karmic exchange,
he definitely sais that if one's Sun, Moon or Saturn is in another ones 8th house and has oppositions / squares to planets/ especially the outer planets or nodes, then the relationship will despite deep love result in painfull loss, either through death or through a painful ending.
can you relate to this?

I checked my connections with sm.actor,
and his saturn is in my 8th house opposing my Moon,
Interestingly my Moon is also in his 12th house.
Beside this ouch.opposition thre are nice aspects too.

His Saturn sextile my Karma and Kaali, my moon sextile his Neptune and Karma, trine his Pluto/ IC,

interesting this nasty opposition has posiitive aspects to both our karmas,

wonder what thatmean,

dd


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seveneieghtorange
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posted July 14, 2007 01:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

My current boyfriend of a year and so-and-so months and I have these karmic relations. My sun is in his 8th house, square his pluto within 5 degrees. My moon is in his 12th house and it definitely feels like i do "free" him spiritually.

Wow...what book is this again?? I would love to read it!

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posted July 14, 2007 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay...

So with two of my ex's (both with the same b-day) I have a lot of karma.

Ex #1 (the one I wished I could marry but knew I couldn't) and I have his Saturn falling in my 4th house conjuncting my Karma asteroid. My Saturn falls in his 8th house conjuncting his Vertex.

The Saturn squares between us: My Saturn squares his Sun and Pluto. His Saturn squares my Sun and Venus. It was very much a strangely mutual unrequited love thing...if that makes sense.


Ex #2 (the one I thought I might actually marry) and I have his Moon, which is also conjunct his Vertex, falling into my 4th house. My Sun conjunct Venus is falling into his 4th house. His Saturn is in his own 4th house (conjuncting his IC) and falls into my 12th and conjuncts his own name asteroid in my chart.

For both of them, the only thing that falls into my 8th house is their Amor asteroids. They are both at about the same degree.
In the case of Ex #2, his own Sun is in the 8th house and my NN conjuncts it...would that have any applications in this book?

So for Ex #2 would I assume that we spent a few lifetimes together as family? And that he came to help to free me spiritually? Can it work in the opposite way? Because Ex #2 (my most recent one) is actually an athiest and that's one of the reasons he ended our relationship. He could not accept my "mystical thinking" and belief in astrology, among other things.

So perhaps then it was about my standing firm in my beliefs? Hmmmmm.....

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Ann7
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posted July 14, 2007 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is really interesting to me!!! The main guy I am crazy about has his moon in my eighth house and my moon is in his fourth... How do I find out if we have hard aspects to planets? I'm still learning and this is one of those areas that starts to get confusing. What I do know is that I ADORE him and although we talk every now and then, we aren't together..{despite a bunch of great aspects and several double whammies.} Some how I feel like he will totally break my heart.

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ErickaF
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posted July 14, 2007 09:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You meant...the lights and Saturn in the water houses??? the guy who broke my heart...his Saturn falls in my 8th house but his Saturn is a fire sign??? Am I reading this wrong??

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posted July 15, 2007 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The water houses are the 4th, 8th and 12th (ie - Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces)

So if Saturn, Sun or Moon is in one of those houses, it's considered to be in a water house.

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ErickaF
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posted July 16, 2007 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brad Pitt's Saturn falls in Angelina's Jolie's 8th house...would this mean that in the long future he would break her heart??
Joe DiMaggio's Moon falls in Marilyn's 8th house! I love Marilyn (read everything about her) and Joe for sure was her true love!

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darkdreamer
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posted July 16, 2007 08:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, so it seems to be indeed a rather strong theme in karmic relationships.

Seven,
you said your bf and you have a sun-pluto-square, how do you experience it? Powerstruggles, compulsion to control or allconsuming passion?
I'm curious because i share this with someone/ too (1,5degree).

Love/
Sun conjunct nn would definitely be important according to blashke/ but not necessarily painful/ just a sign of relational karma, strong connection,
but of course not everyone can handle the depth,

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darkdreamer
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posted July 16, 2007 08:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, so it seems to be indeed a rather strong theme in karmic relationships.

Seven,
you said your bf and you have a sun-pluto-square, how do you experience it? Powerstruggles, compulsion to control or allconsuming passion?
I'm curious because i share this with someone/ too (1,5degree).

Love/
Sun conjunct nn would definitely be important according to blashke/ but not necessarily painful/ just a sign of relational karma, strong connection,
but of course not everyone can handle the depth,

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darkdreamer
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posted July 16, 2007 08:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ann/

hard aspects are square (90 degree) and opposition (180) and sometimes the conjunction (00),
Example<
Venus on 276 capricorn squares Pluto on 189 libra/ because its about 90 degree (87 in that case)apart,

Ericka/

a Saturn in 8th alone wouldnt be a dealbreaker,
To have those painful experiences Saturn in 8 would have to make squares and oppositions to planets/ especially outer planets or nodes,

DD


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teaologist
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posted July 16, 2007 11:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ann7
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posted July 16, 2007 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you DD! I think I get it. {sometimes I need to be hit over the head w/ an astrology book }

The most wild thing happened since this thread was posted! I met up with an old friend on Saturday {there has always been a spark but we've never acted on it} I did our charts and found that my sun and mercury are in his 4th and my moon is in his 8th. His sun, venus and saturn are in my 8th.

I'm guessing this means we have a lot of karma going on? lol

I can tell you that we've been friends for years and the feelings run very deep. Not so much sexual {not that I haven't thought about it} but more like you know that the person will always be there for you. A true soul mate.

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Diandra23
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posted July 16, 2007 01:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

Im happy to see you here again

ABout specifically your thread, i looked up mine and my saturn falls on his 4th ( family karma?)

ABout the 12th, his Venus/Amor falls on my 12house ( past lifes).My Eros falls on his 12th house.
So, i guess our recent past lifes could went wrong someway in love, and now he will transform/free each others through love?

In another thread,on SOul Unions,some NN aspects indicated a possible past life marriage that went wrong someway ...hmm..really this might be true,isnt it?

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posted July 16, 2007 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys ~ how do you post charts here again? It's been so long since I posted one and I forget the HTML code thingy.

Thanks

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ErickaF
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posted July 16, 2007 06:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darkdreamer:

You mean squares/oppositions to my planets/nodes or his outer planets/nodes?!?!? My 8th house is in Leo (his Saturn) so I would see if Leo makes oppositions or squares to my outer planets/nodes??

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MoonDreamer81
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posted July 16, 2007 09:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see...

Virgo Boy's Sun,Moon & Saturn are ALL in my 4th house(Virgo).His Moon trines my Sun within 1 degree,and Saturn trine my Sun within 2 degrees.

My Moon is in his 4th house(Scorpio)conj his Mars.

His Chiron is in my 12th house(Taurus) conj my Mars.

Our 8th houses are both empty(no past lives I guess...)

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S:Taurus
ASC:Gemini
M:Scorpio
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2007 Solar Return:
S:Taurus
ASC:Virgo
M:Gemini

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soconfused
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posted July 16, 2007 10:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok - as my name staes ...I'm so confused

Is it only those planets and if they fall in a water sign?

For example - this looks pretty karmic to me but I'm not sure if it's the right planets

I'm jo he's gr

These are our charts compared for synastry

Jo's Sun in Gr's 2 house
Gr's Sun in Jo's 12 house
Jo's Moon in Gr's 11 house
Gr's Moon in Jo's 10 house
Jo's Mercury in Gr's 3 house
Gr's Mercury in Jo's 12 house
Jo's Venus in Gr's 12 house
Gr's Venus in Jo's 1 house
Jo's Mars in Gr's 6 house
Gr's Mars in Jo's 1 house
Jo's Jupiter in Gr's 4 house
Gr's Jupiter in Jo's 8 house
Jo's Saturn in Gr's 11 house
Gr's Saturn in Jo's 2 house
Jo's Uranus in Gr's 4 house
Gr's Uranus in Jo's 7 house
Jo's Neptune in Gr's 6 house
Gr's Neptune in Jo's 9 house
Jo's Pluto in Gr's 4 house
Gr's Pluto in Jo's 7 house

Jo's Venus trine Gr's Jupiter orb 4° 50'
Jo's Venus square Gr's Pluto orb 4° 29'
Jo's Jupiter conjunct Gr's Uranus orb 4° 48'
Jo's Jupiter sextile Gr's Neptune orb 2° 6'
Jo's Saturn sextile Gr's Sun orb 3° 0'
Jo's Saturn conjunct Gr's Saturn orb 3° 43'
Jo's Uranus conjunct Gr's Pluto orb 4° 49'
Jo's Moon sextile Gr's Ascendant orb 3° 6'


this is a composite chart


Composite planetary data
Sun Taurus 26° 35' in house 1 Moon Pisces 1° 3' in house 11 Mercury Taurus 24° 38' in house 1 Venus Taurus 10° 47' in house 1 Mars Aquarius 16° 35' in house 10 Jupiter Libra 19° 23' in house 6 Saturn Taurus 6° 49' in house 12 Uranus Libra 4° 32' in house 6 Neptune Scorpio 28° 25' in house 7 Pluto Virgo 24° 54' in house 5 Ascendant Taurus 8° 6' in house 1 Midheaven Aquarius 0° 17' in house 10 Node. Pisces 16° 51' in house 11 2
Gemini 10° 42' in house 2 3
Cancer 6° 6' in house 3 4
Leo 0° 17' in house 4 5
Leo 27° 55' in house 5 6
Libra 0° 50' in house 6

Moon in 11th house
Moon square Mercury orb 6° 25'
Moon square to Neptune orb 2° 38'
Mercury in 1st house
Mercury opposition Neptune orb 3° 46'
Mercury trine Pluto orb 0° 16'
Venus in 1st house
Venus square Mars orb 5° 47'
Venus conjunct Saturn orb 3° 57'
Mars in 10th house
Mars trine Jupiter orb 2° 48'
Jupiter in 6th house
Saturn in 12th house
Uranus in 6th house
Neptune in 7th house
Neptune sextile Pluto orb 3° 30'
Pluto in 5th house

Composite Gemini on the second house cusp
Composite Cancer on the third house cusp
Composite Leo on the fourth house cusp
Composite Leo on the fifth house cusp
Composite Libra on the sixth house cusp
Composite Scorpio on the seventh house cusp
Composite Sagittarius on the 8th house cusp
Composite Capricorn on the 9th house cusp
Composite Aquarius on the 11th house cusp
Composite Aries on the 12th house cusp

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darkdreamer
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posted July 17, 2007 04:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ann,

this seems to have been a weekend for the past coming back. I kind of got a very shocking reminder of my first deep crush, music-man, this weekend. I really didnt see it coming, but interestingly music-man and me have some karmic things going on, too.

Diandra,
im still on vacation, but found an internet access point.
About the placements, what are the aspects to your saturn, his venus, amor and your eros?

Ericka, yes squares and opp. of his saturn to your planets. i would stick to a 5 degree orb at max though.

say: saturn is 15 degree leo, look for planets falling on 10 -20 degree aquarius, taurus or scoepio. the closer the orb the better. a 2 degree orb eill be very significant.

Moon dreame,

all water houses can point to past lives, especially the 12th. seems you have some strong, nice connections there. the chiron mars could be somewhat paainful i guess.all that 4th house action, yu seem to feel at home with each other, a sense of belonging. but if one of you has some unresolved childhoodisssues, it could also be painful, beause all of thi is being dragged to the surface.

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darkdreamer
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posted July 17, 2007 08:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So confused,

I'd think following placements are karmic:

Gr sun in jo 12th house/ sextile Jo Saturn (in which house does your saturn fall?)

Jo Venus in Gr 12th house/ square gr pluto (but the orb is rathr wide)

both jupiters in waterhouses would be very important if Saggy / pisces was at ac/ dc/ ic/ mc or ruling Sun/ moon / nodes / vertex

Jo,s uranus and pluto in gr 4th house/ but there are no aspects/ so maybe they are dormant/ unless either of you have personal planets or angles in aquarius or scorpio

DD


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Diandra23
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posted July 17, 2007 09:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm

His pluto conj my saturn(4);Asc skaure my saturn(1),and his uranus semisextile my saturn(1) also.and his eros/Juno semisextile my saturn(1)

His venus trine my moon(3),conj my merc(4),< my mars(0),skuare my nep(0),semisextile pluto(1),trine kiron(5),conj asc(too wide).

His amor <my Saturn(0),skuares my NN(5),kikunkx vertex(0),oposes amor(7),sextiles psyche/ eros(3),semisextile karma(1),< Union and Destiny(0)

My Eros bq his moon(0),skuares Merc(0),bq mars(0),trines jup(0),conjunctsn NN(2),trines PF(4),sextiles Amor(3),skuares Psyche(0); skuares MC(3)

IN a general view,what does might mean DD?

and how are your vacation?Having a big time?

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ErickaF
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posted July 18, 2007 12:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darkdreams thanks for replying. So I looked at my chart...my eight house is in Leo 18 degrees that is his Saturn 12 degrees. So I looked at my planets and the only planets I see that make a square or opposition are: Aquarius 8 Moon degrees and Sun Scorpio 12 degrees, but not my outer planets nor nodes! I think I got it.
Thanks.

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soconfused
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posted July 25, 2007 10:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks dark dreamer

my saturn is in taurus 11th house

my jupiter is in libra 7th house

his jupiter is in scorpio 5th house

my ac is pisces my mc is sag

his ac is cancer his mc is pisces

i have neptune in scorp

he has mercury in aquarius and jupiter in scorp

he is a pisces, i am a leo

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seveneieghtorange
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posted July 28, 2007 02:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
darkdreamer:

its hard sometimes, but I am a controlling person as it is, and we do have power struggles. even stupid little things like if he doesnt answer his phone when I call, and he calls back I won't answer my phone until he calls the 2nd time because I think that he's "upped" me and now we're "even". he is more relaxed about it, but I can tell he has little compulsions with me and would like to control me except I always fight back and I refuse to be dominated over. Which is really strange because I am a cancer, he is a pisces...you'd think we'd let go of power struggles as it is. My mars (in his 8th house) also square his pluto, probably about 5 degrees as well. His venus (in my 8th house) squares my pluto 6 degrees.

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