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kindjali
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posted July 23, 2007 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In few days we have retrograde Venus, solar ecplise,lunar eclipse, Mars retrograde and finnaly Jupiter-Pluto conjuction...

How to explain, retrograde Venus squaring Venus in 5th house 3 times + Saturn squaring Venus also + transiting Saturn-Venus conjuction?
Also after Lunar and Solar Eclipse there is transiting Uranus opposing Saturn.

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posted July 23, 2007 09:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does it all mean? is any of it good?

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posted July 23, 2007 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kindjali: Thanks for bringing this up. I was going to start a thread about it, will post my thoughts here.
    I would suggest to everyone that you create an event chart for 7-16-2005 That is the date that Saturn entered Leo. Now Saturn has not been comfortable here, and for the past two years many people have been going through a very rough time. Lets look at some of the aspects for that date. Using a 9:11 A.M.
  • Grand Trine Mars, Venus & Pluto [exact @22*]
  • Mercury & Venus in Leo opp Neptune in Aquarius
  • Chiron 0 Aquarius opp Saturn 0 Leo
  • Moon @ 17 Scorpio opp Juno 17 Taurus
With all of the 12th House energy + the 6H Neptune-Chiron and taking into account Pluto going back and forth over the GC in Sagg. We have a rare opportunity Now to go back over what has happened internally over the past two years. Dramatic changes. To my mind this has to do with transformation of our wound, our day to day lives, our ability to love and accept ourselves and turning that beam to those closest to us. This has a seriousness and a concentration that if used in a positive way can change the lives of the people most affected by this 2 year transit. Venus will head back into Leo [where she was in 05] Do you feel a little relief now as Saturn approaches the Virgo crossing? I know I do.
    The chart for 8-28 is very interesting to this 0* Virgo rising girl. With her Pisces Moon. At the time of the March eclipse I started a few threads talking about this Aug eclipse. But that is a whole other ball of wax.
P.S. It is almost as if the mental, dissectional, analytical energy of Saturn in Virgo is already being felt as we re-***** the past two years. Sal ante- Node

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posted July 23, 2007 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Node, thank you for insight,

Saturn was for 2 years in my 8th house of Leo, Uranus conjucting Piscies Moon, I had rough and worst time in my life. I CHANGED but I lost love and much more other. How this period in my life is going to be...till 2008?
Anything good finnaly?
My data: 26th December 1976, zagreb, Croatia.

I feel relieved from May...but I think this is Jupi transiting my AC and Saturn left opposing my Venus. Retro Venus occures in my 8th house, going direct at top of Natal Saturn (Cappy woman?) in same days where there is Eclipses and Pluto making final turn on my Mars. And then it starts...Retro Mars in my 7th house.

And please explain transits above in my first post. They are not mine.

Thx, K.

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posted July 23, 2007 04:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It keeps getting more interesting...I had no idea about the two year tough aspects happening. Thank you.


Regarding the upcoming conjunction of pluto and jupiter, I *think* that supposedly happened when jesus was born...I can't remember exactly if it was those two planets conjuncting, but I think it was. That would point to something very significant occuring in the world, but I have no idea what that event may be.

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would suggest to everyone that you create an event chart for 7-16-2005 That is the date that Saturn entered Leo. Now Saturn has not been comfortable here, and for the past two years many people have been going through a very rough time. Lets look at some of the aspects for that date. Using a 9:11 A.M.
Grand Trine Mars, Venus & Pluto [exact @22*]
Mercury & Venus in Leo opp Neptune in Aquarius
Chiron 0 Aquarius opp Saturn 0 Leo
Moon @ 17 Scorpio opp Juno 17 Taurus
With all of the 12th House energy + the 6H Neptune-Chiron and taking into account Pluto going back and forth over the GC in Sagg. We have a rare opportunity Now to go back over what has happened internally over the past two years. Dramatic changes. To my mind this has to do with transformation of our wound, our day to day lives, our ability to love and accept ourselves and turning that beam to those closest to us. This has a seriousness and a concentration that if used in a positive way can change the lives of the people most affected by this 2 year transit. Venus will head back into Leo [where she was in 05] Do you feel a little relief now as Saturn approaches the Virgo crossing? I know I do.
The chart for 8-28 is very interesting to this 0* Virgo rising girl. With her Pisces Moon. At the time of the March eclipse I started a few threads talking about this Aug eclipse. But that is a whole other ball of wax.

What happened on 8/28? Was that the eclipse?

I have to try to find your posts on the eclipses.

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posted July 23, 2007 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter conjucting Pluto on 9th December...expanding of "below the surface" things...hmmm.
It will be significant to individuals, if in same time are happening other transits.
Look at progressions and directions.
7 days later Saturn goes retrograde + Mars is also retrograde in Cancer.

It happens close to my Natal Mars with Neptun at top of my Natal Venus in Aqua...interesting.

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posted July 23, 2007 05:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kindjali: I read the conjunction happens on December 11th...? I wonder which source is correct.

This is a good site that lists all celestial activities for this year and next.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~harwood/agenda.htm

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December 18th 2007 Jupiter enters Capricorn.

December 2007: A conjunction of the Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, and Pluto near 0° Capricorn opposes Mars retrograde in the first few degrees of Cancer, joined by the Full Moon at 1° 50' Cancer on December 23. This starts the activation of zero degrees of cardinal signs, which are probably the four most sensitive points in the zodiac. Pluto is now at the degree of the 1988 Saturn-Uranus conjunction.


Wow, this sounds important for cardinal signed people.

I'm jumping the gun on this one, but it's a total eclipse in my sun sign!

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February 7th 2008 Annular Eclipse of the Sun at 18 degrees Aquarius 03-55 GMT visible only from Antarctica.

Node, I haven't been able to locate your posts on the eclipses. I wish the search function worked.

After reading the link i posted i realized you were referring to the upcoming 8/28 eclipse.

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posted July 23, 2007 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SO! Now it posts an hour later! DP DP
    I am just frustrated enough at this moment to post Eric's Sexual Lexicon it will be fun to see what Infopoop does with his frank terminology.

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posted July 23, 2007 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow I just made this long post and my comp went WONKEY! Had to re-boot. Took 45 min. will try again now.

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posted July 23, 2007 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am excited by the interest. This Axis-Bold as Love TY J. Hendrix! Has been one of my main interests astrologically for the year. The upcoming 8-28 Eclipse [yes Mustang ] has been my screen saver for weeks to study the Virgo side of the dichotomy started in March. I will look for the old posts, and since I am part Marion L. I will find them. Right now I am going to let a professional talk to you in a few posts. Pt 1 by E. Francis....

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posted July 23, 2007 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sexual Healing and the Fiery edge of Virgo
    Dear Friend and Reader:

    Where two signs meet is rich territory. Often it seems that the 12 meeting points of the signs are like another set of archetypes that we often hop over so we don't break our mother's back. Yet in those subtle spaces, we can slip between the worlds. They are the zones where transitions occur, and where energy and light are translated into new forms, including material forms. Borderlands are often the most interesting territory of any country, or any chart.

    Where Leo adjoins Virgo, the divine ray of passion and that of integrity enmesh with one another. We often think of Leo as the sign of sex, art and creativity, and Virgo as that of work, focus, clear thinking and healing.

    These signs have many other traditional significations (Leo represents gold, for example, and Virgo represents places where grain is stored), but as for how we think of them today in our current psychologically based astrology, we have two modes of creation. If you think of the signs as a story that follows the wheel in order, Leo is the phase of unfettered childlike spontaneity, which then matures into a quality that can express itself in precise ways as Virgo.

    Leo provides the fire and inspiration, and Virgo provides the skill and earthy grounding; together, they can be used to create impassioned, excellent work. Looked at one way, they are opposites (adjoining signs often are) or they are complementary (adjoining signs often are). Signs often borrow properties from one another: Leo has a mature quality that seems to contradict the childlike one; and Virgo has a wild streak that seems to contradict its serious nature.

    Beauty is another story, technically covered by neither of these signs: you start to get into classical beauty in the next stage, Libra, which is a study in aesthetics, balance and personal expression.

    Venus, the ruler of Libra, is the first planet intimately now involved with the Leo-Virgo transition region, where it will spend a lot of time this summer and fall because of the retrograde that occurs in this area. Then we have Saturn, which is another Libra planet (Saturn is exalted in Libra), about to transition into Virgo in early September, and involved with a series of conjunctions with Venus. We often think of these two planets as being antithetical, but both are representatives of the same sign. If the combination is handled unconsciously, there can be difficult or devastating results; if handled with awareness, unusual possibilities can open up.

    Where we have passion intersecting with integrity, combined with Venus, one of those possibilities is sexual healing. The mix of Saturn in the picture suggests that an aspect of that involves becoming aware of the ways we are held down, and taking up the energy of self-mastery that Saturn really represents.

    Since the first few thousand Google returns for the term "sexual healing" nearly all involve Marvin Gaye, our first stop could be a definition. (Oddly enough, Marvin's tune by this title has just now joined the discussion, as I am writing in a pub and it's now playing.) Once we get that song out of our heads, we might think of Masters and Johnson in their lab coats, greeting their experimental subjects holding clipboards, connecting them with wires and taking notes as they squirm around on the laboratory bed. These all miss the point, though.

    Intuitively, we might have an idea of what sexual healing means, or feel a yearning to make it into reality for ourselves. To some extent, everyone carries sexual pain in our society, and we seem to be in a constant struggle to take back a little of the inner territory that was taken from us as kids and young adults. That pain may involve anything from religion to sexual abuse. It may involve years of denying our needs.

    Somehow we know that there are others who could help us get over our pain or hang-ups or doubts, if we could find those people, and open up to them. It seems eminently practical to teach people how to do this kind of work, so that we can access them when we need them, and in fact more and more people are learning and going into practice, even if it's a kind of underground movement. It would seem just as practical to lift society's taboos on this kind of thing so that we would feel safe getting help or seeking information. Usually, though, we are left to our healing process with our chosen intimate partners, and this can be risky because they don't necessarily know the territory any better than we do.

    Sexual healing implies sexual wounding, which we all know exists, and anyone wounded craves healing. I think the first step is opening up on the verbal level, being able to describe our feelings and inner reality. An astrological picture may help. Imagine all that hot, raw passion of Leo beginning to integrate itself with Virgo and take a comprehensible form. Imagine if that hot morass of feelings could parse itself out as clear ideas that we could relate in words and concepts.

    I would propose that communication is the beginning of a useful definition of sexual healing; much of what we need to heal from, we could move through in a few good conversations, and sometimes it takes just one of those to get things moving.

    Few people are comfortable actually talking about their erotic experiences, feelings and needs. Despite decades of progress, many factors have successfully imposed a new and toxic silence on sexual expression, particularly verbal. Our language is full of forbidden zones, and our emotional bodies are full of forbidden feelings when we are conversing with others. There are zones we cannot enter because we feel too vulnerable, too powerful, or like the door would suddenly open. Many people cannot even say the words to describe basic sexual feelings, and have next to no experience doing so. It can feel dirty, inappropriate, like something you would never say -- even to your husband.

    We might feel shame at our past actions, want to leave them behind, or fear that we'll be rejected for opening up, and that last fear can have some basis in reality. When we acknowledge the need and desire to heal sexually, we need to open up for it to happen, and that will often involve some experience of confronting the fear of abandonment. This fear, while often worshiped, holds down a lot of progress, and while it can be legitimate, I think that our partners would make a lot more space for our reality if we gave them a chance. It's important to keep an eye on the habit of blaming them for "not wanting to know" and using that as an excuse for staying silent.

    The ability to articulate is I think the most vital sexual healing resource. The silence that surrounds real discussion of sex can show up anywhere, from an intimate relationship to a therapy session. Getting out of that silence means speaking up nearly every time you feel it being imposed on you.

    Silence and its associated judgments feed what we can meekly describe as a sexually exploitative culture: sex can in most circumstances only be depicted if it's being used for some purpose other than its original one. Hence, we see sex used for every other purpose besides pleasure. It's fair to say that most of us feel trapped in a void between where our minds are not allowed to go (how we really feel), and where we notice ourselves being emotionally and erotically strip-mined by our society.

    The hypersexuality of advertising makes it seem like there is too much sexual discussion when in truth there is hardly any at all. Attempts by commercial magazine editors to treat the subject are almost always designed to increase sales by putting sex on the cover, so once again sex is being used for something other than itself. The antidote to this is to keep sex where it belongs: as an expression of humanity.

    Sexual discussions do happen and there is also some excellent writing -- you just need to know where to look. [We have researched some for our Sexuality Resource Area, and there is a good discussion in an article called Cunnilingus and Clover.]

    The Leo-Virgo connection is that fine line where we are able to put words to our passions, and allow our words to lead us into passion. Because I'm an erotic writer and do this a lot, I can forget how challenging this may be for many people: how much of what we feel every day is considered unspeakable. Many people don't have words to describe their own genitals, much less how they feel experiencing them.

    Sexual freedom begins with the freedom to feel honestly; and then to state how you feel, what you need, what you've done, and what you want. Part two is listening to the same thing coming from the people you care about.

    As the Venus retrograde heats up over the next few weeks, let's develop some of these themes, including how to find the words for how you feel; how to discuss your sexual history with your partner or prospective partner; and some options for erotic exploration that exist that you may not have heard about yet.

    Meanwhile, I would like to leave you with one of my many works-in-progress, a sex lexicon that may help you find a few of those words or see that you're not out in such a high orbit. This is about seven years old and there is a lot I would change -- it's explicit and a little cheeky (that I would not change), and as for accuracy, well, things have changed a bit. But I trust that it has some of what you need to feed the Virgo side of that Leo line.

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posted July 23, 2007 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Node!

Has saturn been in Leo for seven years? If so, that is very spooky to me.

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posted July 23, 2007 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2 years honey TWO years

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posted July 23, 2007 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prolly misread a lot of things because I am now having a nervous breakdown?!!!!! Does this mean that the Venus return basically replays wat happened in July-August '05 cuz if so PLEASE shoot me now! That was one of my MOST painful breakups i had EVER had to go through and considering my very happy new relationship has been on the horrid rocks since last August thanks to dearest Saturn in my bf's 7th I really want to cry right now...especially since the Venus/Saturn thing right now for me has made me totally give up and feel like nothing on the planet can save this relationship...i just want to cry

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posted July 23, 2007 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I looked over Sexual Lexicon again and realized that a lot of peeps might be offended. Mars is in Taurus right now. My Stellium is there in 9H. So ranting, raving, and talking about sex are right on my page. Wisdom I say. Wisdom vs knowledge! To continue:




August Highlights

Venus will be retrograde from July 27 through Sept. 8. The Aquarius Full Moon is July 30. The Leo New Moon is Aug. 13, conjunct Mercury and opposite Neptune [please not correction: prior editions said 'opposite Saturn', which is an error]. The Pisces Full Moon is Aug. 28, and a total lunar eclipse.

August is the last full month that Saturn is in Leo for this cycle. Saturn changes signs to Virgo on Sept. 2. Supposedly sign changes of Saturn don't happen very often -- about once every 24 to 30 months, but I seem to keep writing about the next one. We last experienced a Saturn sign change in July 2005, and many extraordinary developments followed. Here is one short way to summarize Saturn in Virgo: It will be the first time in five years that Saturn is not in a sign considered its fall or detriment -- in other words, in a sign traditionally considered difficult.

The combination of the planet of structure, form and integrity with a sign associated with many of the same properties will come as a relief, a welcome change of pace and also a productive time when actions speak louder than words (it has been a while, hasn't it). The thing about Saturn in Leo is what you accomplished during that phase, though challenging, is likely to have lasting, durable value. Most of the great inventions of the world, from the transistor to recorded music to moving pictures, are all phenomena of Saturn in Leo.

Much more about August 2007 is in the Spiral Door Almanac for 2007. The horoscope below will appear later in the month in Chronogram magazine in New York with different articles in different editions: The Yes Men in Albany, and Where's Your Data? in the Hudson Valley.


Aries (March 20-April 19)
You are not splitting in two. It is, however, true that you are rapidly approaching a branching of the roads where you will get to choose between a life that is predominantly dictated by your social life, and one that is nourished and sustained by your increasing creative passion. What divides the two is less about "what you want to be doing with your life" and more about your willingness to take the kind of risks that change you. When it comes to friends, you may want to choose from among those who are distinctly unafraid to stand out; who refuse to conform to what others expect of them, and who insist on honesty as a way of life; and who define themselves by their ability to change rather than to stay the same. This is what you are learning and these are the kinds of teachers and companions who will be the most supportive of you at this time. You may feel concerned about how meaningful your friends who may not fit this description are; bu t I propose it's now time for them to come to you, rather than you going to them.

Taurus (Apr 21 - May 21)
In these days and weeks, you may find yourself alternating between the utmost confidence and paralyzing insecurity. Because you like your world to make sense, the division may be more unsettling to you than it would be to other people. Let's add a few others contrasts, while we're swimming in the midst of some provocative astrology. You may be squirming around wondering whether your ideas about the past really are better than all the revolutionary things you've decided to embrace the past couple of years, while at the same time you may in these very days feel confronted by just how limiting and confining those old ideas are. Yet in an odd way, while they offer the momentary feeling of security and stability, fixed you know that you need to set the foundations of your life on stronger ground than your predecessors have ever done. By now you know that there is one component of strong that you can sum up as durable, and another that you can sum up as flexible. Events this month will go a long way toward conspiring you to work both sides of the equation.

Gemini (May 22 - Jun 22)
You may feel forced into a decision you are not ready to make, but I propose there are a few potential distortions you need to check out before you over-react. One, to what extent are you getting caught in the unspoken beliefs of others? This is another way of asking who is setting the terms of reality. Somebody always defines the framework of what is possible. You need to know who it is. Second, what happens when you turn up the energy on your point of view? Does the space you're in get larger or smaller? Last, in what direction is time flowing? This is another way of asking what constitutes progress. You may feel like you are swimming upstream in a very fast current, and as a result, getting nowhere. But this is actually an illusion created by your experience of one particular relationship. The solution to all of these issues is clear thinking and open discussion. But when the time comes to talk, I suggest you understate your case. The pe rson you're addressing actually knows what's up; all you need to do is remind them that you know too.

Cancer (Jun 23 - Jul 23)
You are in an excellent process of defining what is important to you. A review that began as a kind of personal inventory earlier this summer has evolved into a careful look at your values system, your attitudes toward money, and what you have learned in the past couple of not-so-easy years of Saturn transiting your adjoining sign Leo. (For two years before that, Saturn was in your birth sign, which brought many similar challenges and points of inner growth and confrontation.) This month is the time to prepare the final report, which will be preceded by your current retrospective exploration. Keep your focus on the past as much as possible. Keep asking the question, "How did I get here?" See if you can identify key decision points that led to turning points that got you where you are today. Through this process, you will find the present, where you can ask the most important question in the universe: Where am I, and what am I doing here?

Leo (Jul 24 - Aug 23)
Subtler events and ideas than you may imagine will determine the course of your life, though some extraordinary developments are in the offing. You're often in the position of being the person who holds the bottom line on reality, who is responsible for being a grounded adult and for setting the terms of what is real and what is not. This puts close partners into the role of what may at times seem like unrealistic dreamer, and at others seem like informed visionary. You do an excellent job of setting the limits that make progress possible. You may want to consider a role reversal, and put your imagination to work. Certainly, circumstances of your life are providing a sense of confinement that is (on our particular planet) excellent fertilizer for the imagination -- perhaps one of the few that actually works. You're holding in your hands vital information about what it means to be stuck, and you're on the threshold of discovering how you and the people closest to you can get brilliantly unstuck.

Virgo (Aug 24 - Sep 23)
One of the great Virgo secrets is how overwhelmed you can feel at times, and how you then ride that energy and break through to new universes of your life. This month promises to turn your inner reality into Bondi Beach of the mind, where you will surf the massive cosmic waves for days and weeks on end. You have learned in recent years that fear is basically the illusion created by responding to your abundant creative potential with negativity. It's a kind of psychic drag created by resisting your natural strength. It helps of course if you can see the positive potential of your creative power. As long as you let go of your past mental habits that is surprisingly easy, and that, in turn, is facilitated simply by noticing what they are. At a certain point, the quest to maintain self-awareness gives way to creative breakthroughs, which in the coming month or two seem poised to come as a series of developments that carry you further from any p hase of your life that you remember, or for that matter that you have forgotten.

Libra (Sep 24 - Oct 23)
All I can say about your planets this month is that the words "highly unlikely" come to mind, along with "unusual propitious meeting" and "retrograding into the future." Highly unlikely refers to someone highly unlikely to be your friend coming through in an extreme pinch; "unusual propitious meeting" is like the Odd Couple to the 100th power, but in the form of a beneficial encounter that you simply could not predict, potentially with someone who you have viewed as an adversary at a less mature time in your life. Retrograding into the future could mean that what seems to be a setback of some kind turns out to be a development that alters your life path in a truly positive way. In any event, your friends are your most precious resource right now, and one character who shows up in the current act of your life will be highly influential in helping you wiggle into your special niche in society: both social and economic. It is always the combin ation of long planning, the goodwill of your friends and dumb luck that makes that happen, and you have all three going for you right now.

Scorpio (Oct 24 - Nov 22)
You may not be sure whether a partner or close associate is thwarting your professional aspirations, or helping you in a backwards kind of way, but you'll feel better if you remind yourself that you're the boss. As the boss, you can afford to give others some slack to do what they do, whether they do it well or poorly, and whether you understand it (at the moment) or not. This is to say, you may not actually comprehend the nature of soon-to-unfold developments, or be able to assess their impact, but you would be wise to observe with more emphasis than on taking action. You may be tempted to respond as if you're standing idly by; you are not. Rather, under this scenario, you would be waiting for your opportune moment. Meanwhile, consider for a moment how you may be perceived by certain key individuals, or one in particular: as vastly larger than life, but as a kind of powerful friend in need of their special contribution to your work or repu tation. You may think this is ridiculous, and yet they may be right. Give it a little time.

Sagittarius (Nov 23 - Dec 21)
You are not, as I have said, the "struggle with faith" type, but you seem to be processing something these days in your relationship to that entity known as God or, if you prefer, your higher self. The questions seems to be about who is more committed to whom, or should be; something about free giving and receiving of gifts; but more to the point, the role of divinity or spirituality in human love. One thing that warrants mention is that nearly all schools of religious thought stay in business because they elevate something over human experience, and usually that something is abstract. Even those who have an alive, active and creative relationship with spirit can get caught up in the teachings of schools of thought that say it's more important than something that could be described as ordinary, physical or humanly nourishing. I would issue a word of caution about any and all ideas that propose there is something better than we can have as p eople -- human beings having a human experience. And usually there is a hidden agenda.

Capricorn (Dec 22 - Jan 20)
You are right to be questioning commitments that you have made to others, but notice that they are finally questioning the commitments they have to you -- and the chances are, discovering they have at least a debt of gratitude to you. It may go further than that, and this would be a good time to collect old bills and reckon emotional accounts. Remember, you have the prerogative to forgive old debts, though I suggest you do so consciously and verbally. There's a gift in this for everyone; debts take up energy. If, in particular, you are feeling sexually blocked, try unblocking your money. Rearranging your commitments, negotiate with people you owe money to, or let go of the ones who owe you something. Do a thorough review of any relationship where sex and money are both a factor involved in the commitment structure. Turn over rocks on unspoken promises, ungrounded expectations or situations where something is linked with something else when it has no business being so.

Aquarius (Jan 21 - Feb 19)
Is a third party involved in a romantic partnership of some kind? I suggest you not decide immediately they don't belong there, like so many people do with an involuntary response that resembles the gag reflex. I also don't suggest you grit your teeth and bear it, either: instead, try opening up and letting some of the subtler elements of the truth rise to the surface of reality. Here is the question you really need to ask yourself: what turns you on? You might want to put that to everyone else involved, once you've asked yourself and gone at least two layers down for your answer. Study the meaning of age differences, power differences, the different ways that people choose to negotiate their surrender, and the relationships of everyone involved to people in their past. Past lovers often loom around like phantoms in the eaves, when they need to be given a clearer voice and honored for who they truly are. You are a presence who stands large in the lives of others. You can stand to know exactly what people feel and why they feel that way, and everyone will experience a sustained rush of liberation in the process.

Pisces (Feb 20 - Mar 20)
Two questions for you this month: what would you do if you were really free, and what would you do if you could focus on what matters the most? There seems to be an intersection approaching where the two probability fields intersect. Looked at one way, it's a narrowing of the path of your life; looked at another way, you have an opportunity to arrange your priorities, particularly where key relationships are concerned. For way too long, many things that don't really matter to you have taken exceptional amounts of your emotional energy and material resources. It has been a long time since you went into command mode on your most important life situations, physical circumstances and professional commitments, and such a moment is arriving fast. You can go a long way toward preparing yourself by knowing what matters long before anyone asks you or expects you to put your feelings, credibility or cash on the line. Make sure the people you care abo ut know you care about them, and make sure you put the question to anyone with whom you are experiencing doubt.

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Kinda fits me right now don't ya know??? Laughs---Taurus (Apr 21 - May 21)
In these days and weeks, you may find yourself alternating between the utmost confidence and paralyzing insecurity. Because you like your world to make sense, the division may be more unsettling to you than it would be to other people. Let's add a few others contrasts, while we're swimming in the midst of some provocative astrology. You may be squirming around wondering whether your ideas about the past really are better than all the revolutionary things you've decided to embrace the past couple of years, while at the same time you may in these very days feel confronted by just how limiting and confining those old ideas are. Yet in an odd way, while they offer the momentary feeling of security and stability, fixed you know that you need to set the foundations of your life on stronger ground than your predecessors have ever done. By now you know that there is one component of strong that you can sum up as durable, and another that you can sum up as flexible. Events this month will go a long way toward conspiring you to work both sides of the equation.

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someone please tell me what are the chances my relationship will end/survive? I know is a reeeeally stupid question but in all honesty we work amaaaazingly well and havnt had any fights while Saturn was retro, the moment that creature goes direct all hell breaks loose and now this Venus thing is making me harsh too....i just want to cry...again

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One of the links is on June 28

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2 years honey TWO years

Not so spooky, then... But the past two years were really bad for me. It peaked two years ago, but it started to decline SLOWLY thereafter. Hmm..

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Does this mean that the Venus return basically replays wat happened in July-August '05 cuz if so PLEASE shoot me now!

Say it isn't so! I can handle it, but I'd rather not...

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Kindjali: You seem well able to process this yourself. Trust yourself *edit

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posted July 24, 2007 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You Node for info

Well, the only thing is definetly to trust...nothing else.

I can process it lightly, but always like to hear others opinion.
Just one short question?
Regarding all this that is start to happening now, and till the end of year and transits involved, can you say that this Cap will have FINAL chance to "heal" something from past or too be healed with something new?

Both of this Venus and Mars Retro occur in my 7th house and 8th house. With Eclipses involved and later Pluto-Jupi conjucting it seems like "something from the past". Especially with Jupi passing over my AC and Neptune making conjuction over my Venus the last time. Am I correct?

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Actually, I read on astrologycom.com that the Venus retro cycles every eight years. It said to look back eight years, same period of year, to see the theme of what might be going on in your life during the Venus retrograde this time around.

I think that the two years was just detailing the fact that was the last time Saturn changed signs. All things considered, it was changing from Cancer to Leo two years ago, and now from Leo to Virgo. If I remember correctly, Saturn is in detriment or fall or something in Leo. All things considered, it should be much happier in an earth sign...

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Retro Venus last time occured in January 2006, in Capricorn. As I remember it was pretty sick month

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Node ~

Thanks again for putting up that great stuff by Eric Francis!! A very thought-provoking essay on the Leo/Virgo cusp (cuspian that I am with Asc at 29Leo54).....
I'd be interested in his Sexual Lexicon
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Sure Zala: I knew you would be the one to pick up on that. In the above I especially like the lines: 'being emotionally and erotically strip-mined by our society.' and 'The antidote to this is to keep sex where it belongs: as an expression of humanity.'It's large and in 2 Pt's -alphabetically -and starts w/ Abortion


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