posted July 26, 2007 12:47 AM              

I just went to astro.com and cafeastrology to try to find some reading on it but found nothing.

Any input anyone?

I will apreciatte it, I am curious about the 1st meeting chart (specially)and how to read it specifically.

Thank you!

posted July 26, 2007 07:27 PM              

I am posting the 1st meeting chart as well as the synastry between my chart(outside) and the day we met(inside).

This is one of the guys I have met that had an impact on me, there is another guy but I don't know which day we met, hopefully if I can figure it out I can apply what you teach me to that chart, thanks again!!!!!

Eventually I would also like to figure out why he had such an impact on me (comparing the two of us on a synastry chart) but I don't know what day he was born or the exact city so it would not be the same without that.

I guess what I want to know is if it was atraction between the both of us or a game from the planets for that day

Or none of the above LOL

posted July 28, 2007 02:52 AM              

Ooook, here we go:

posted July 28, 2007 02:55 AM              

3. Sun.
Sabian: "A Rabbi Performing His Duties" -again pointing, in my opinion, to some sort of professional or official relationship.
Good aspects! Conjunction to Venus and Mars (very high physical attraction, high energy), sextile to Saturn (stabilizing, can be something that will last for a while), trine to Neptune (high idealism, maybe even a spiritual relationship), sextile to Pluto (intense )
Sun is in the 5th house (and with Venus, Mars and Vertex there, no wonder you fell for the guy! The potention for romance was huge! Did he feel the same?)

4. Moon
Sabian:"A Small Naked Girl Bends Over A Pond Trying To Catch A Fish" - indicating innocence, playfulness.
As I said, I will consider the Moon in the 1st house, not in the 2nd. So the relationship will be characterized by high and deep emotions (especially in Cancer).
It receives a square from Venus; maybe one of you had some second thoughts about committing to this relationship, due to past disappointments in the love department?
Good emotional communication (trine to Mercury). I like the trine to Uranus, as well.

posted July 28, 2007 02:56 AM              

7. Juno
Sabian: "A Group Of Aristocratic Ladies Meet Ceremonially At A Court's Function"... again, the official-ness of the whole thing.
Juno is in the 4th house, which is good, also conjuncting the Part of Fortune for the chart, which is even better. It might have triggered some sort of familiarity feelings between you guys. It is too soon to say this, but it might be a marriage indicator (at least, it has some potential, but it is up to you guys and other indicators). It also conjuncts Lilith, triggering some painful wounds maybe. And it squares Pluto. If there are indicators in the synastry/composite for obsessive behaviour or manipulative tactics, be alert.

8. The Vertex, second DC, fatedness.
Sabian: "A Massive Rocky Shore Resist The Pounding Of The Sea" - very nice; I'd like to interpret this as having potential for resisting hardship together. I like the fact that it is in the 5th house, good for romance.

9. Part of Fortune
Sabian: "Mary And Her Little Lamb". Cute hehe, pointing to nurturing and innocence.

10. Overall placements in the houses
-Moon in the first - very good
-Saturn in the 3rd... (and with that square to Mercury), you might have some troubles in this area.
-Sun-Venus-Mars in the 5th is extremely good for romance (+Vertex)
-Mercury&Jupiter in the 6th made me think about the possibility of you guys meeting at work or something. If not, you could place a high value on responsibilities and rutine.
-Pluto in the 7th... intensity again. If you guys form a couple, it will sure transform both of you.
-Chiron in the 8th... sexual healing and of deep psychological issues you guys might have
-Neptune&Uranus in the 9th
-Nord Node in the 10th - I consider the Node as the goal of the relationship, what you must accomplish together. You might be linked through your careers or be a public couple.

Now, as for your transits for that day... With Neptune going over your NN and Saturn over your SN, there was a fated atmosphere during that period. It is to say that the people you met on that time have karmic ties with you and are in your life for a reason.
You were going through Uranus square natal Venus, Neptune trine Venus and also the Sun-Venus-Mars conjunction trined your Venus. There was a propitious time to fall in love.
Also, transiting NN conjuncting your IC is another sign of fated encounter, one that is both karmic and deep.
Seems to me like the sky planned this pretty well. There was very little you could have done to avoid falling in love.

posted July 28, 2007 09:15 AM              

1.- We met at a public place while he was working,it was kind of like a party too.So yes, as far as #1 all of it applies.
Keywords arty,public place,while work.
There has also been on/off periods as well.But we decided to call it off a while back although everytime we see each other there is that intense bond, this is why I don't cross his path anymore.Too much.
We can talk too, a lot , although there is always something more to say but we don't go there.Or at least that is how it feels to me.
Funny you say that about the obstacles in communication, because even know we can talk there has been somtimes where I feel he accuses me of something but I don't know what it is, and at that moment when we start talking about it someone else comes in the picture and we have to stop talking.
The day dreaming and wishful thinking was all me, I have stop thinking that way.

2.-I wish I knew what that meant so I could work on that right away.I am a "doer" the sooner the better...

posted July 28, 2007 11:07 AM              

Do you think first meeting charts work as a relationship-chart?
Well, it seems so regarding to your analysis, which apparently was spot on.

I`m curious to know, can you also make a first eyecontact chart?
Because I`m very very curious to know if you can see, if I just imagined that kind of intensity or if it was really there?
You know of which event I`m speaking, don`t you? This concert last november. Would you be so kind to have a look at this chart?

Looking at only the Sabians intrigues me a lot, even without knowing how to interprete them.

AC:
CANCER 28-29
A GREEK MUSE WEIGHING NEW BORN TWINS IN GOLDEN SCALES

DC:
CAPRICORN 28-29
A WOMAN READING TEA LEAVES

Moon, as ruler of AC (and coincidentally conjunct our composite Moon)
PISCES 27-28
A FERTILE GARDEN UNDER THE FULL MOON

Saturn, as ruler of DC (exactly trine my Sun and Mercury and trine his Moon)
LEO 25-26
AFTER A HEAVY STORM, A RAINBOW APPEARS

NN (exactly conjunct our composite Moon)
PISCES 22-23
A 'MATERIALIZING MEDIUM' GIVING A SEANCE
(I looked at the True Node here)

Neptune, Ruler of NN: (exactly conjunct my Moon and square his NN)
AQUARIUS 17-18
A MAN BEING UNMASKED AT A MASQUERADE

Jupiter, old ruler of NN: (conjunct both our Amor and therefore also composite Amor):
SAGITTARIUS 1-2
THE OCEAN COVERED WITH WHITECAPS

SN:
VIRGO 22-23
A LION-TAMER RUSHES FEARLESSLY INTO THE CIRCUS ARENA

Mercury, ruler of SN
SCORPIO 18-19
A PARROT LISTENING AND THEN TALKING, REPEATS A CONVERSATION HE HAS OVERHEARD

Sun: (this is exactly conjunct my ASC)
SAGITTARIUS 7-8
DEEP WITHIN THE DEPTHS OF THE EARTH, NEW ELEMENTS ARE BEING FORMED

Venus: (exactly conjunct his Mercury and widely conjunct my NN)
SAGITTARIUS 15-16
SEA GULLS FLY AROUND A SHIP LOOKING FOR FOOD

Vertex: (conjunct his Mercury and my NN)
SAGITTARIUS 14-15
THE GROUND HOG LOOKING FOR ITS SHADOW ON GROUND HOG DAY

Mars: (conjunct his Neptune, conjunct my VAlentine, and both our Amor)
SCORPIO 25-26
INDIANS MAKING CAMP IN NEW TERRITORY

Karma: (opposite his Karma)
AQUARIUS 0-1
AN OLD ADOBE MISSION IN CALIFORNIA

VAlentine: (conjunct his Venus)
CAPRICORN 13-14
AN ANCIENT BAS-RELIEF CARVED IN GRANITE REMAINS A WITNESS TO A LONG-FORGOTTEN CULTURE

Amor (conjunct his Neptune and Amor; conjunct my Valentine and Amor)
SCORPIO 27-28
THE KING OF THE FAIRIES APPROACHING HIS DOMAIN

IC:
LIBRA 2-3
THE DAWN OF A NEW DAY REVEALS EVERYTHING CHANGED

Pluto; ruler of the 5th house, which is quite filled with planets; also it was a concert, so I thought it appropriate to look at Pluto. Pluto is also exactly conjunct my Sun and our composite Sun and trine his natal Moon)
SAGITTARIUS 25-26
A FLAG-BEARER IN A BATTLE

Hmm, I know I probably looked at too many Sabians (which are the most important ones?), but what do you think of this painted picture?

I really don`t want to break into Nam`s thread, but maybe you could give it a short look and tell me what kind of vibration you get of all of this.
Thank you.

DD

posted July 28, 2007 01:34 PM              

So, I'll continue:

3.-well, while it lasted, yes he did say he felt the same, in fact he didn't understand why he felt so strongly, and to tell you the truth I didn't either, it just felt good.As you say intense.Never have I felt that before.As far as stabilizing, well it obviously never did happen.Spiritual relationship? I wouldn't know, it was too fast.

4.-Yes, innocence and playfulness could be use in a way but there was also a dark side to it, although not between us.The whole committing to this relationship due to past disappointments would not qualify as the dark side, but not on my part.

5.-Yes and no,not when it came down to the important issues.

6.-Totally flirtatious,playful,aesthetic, out of this world... all of these apply.
Disillusions could be him, deceptions could be me.

7.-Familiarity? yes, that crossed my mind, there was no inhibitions, there were no questions, it just happen while it happened.
As far as the rest...marriage LOL I don't even talk to the guy now, I am just merely wanting to know at this point what did happen then and why there was such a strong/intense attraction.Painful wounds? I don't know, not from my point of view, I was in heaven when I was with him, when he wasn't though it was not hell but I didn't like it, obviously.
Manipulative tactics? hmmmm is he a bad person? .... sorry no clue on that.

8.-We were never put in this position, or we failed right away.

9.-awww

10.-Karmic ties... that idea is haunting me, I wish I knew.But yes,one of my good friends have brought 3 links to my life in the last 3 years I have been dealing with.
It had to be a plan from the sky because i was also at the time in my life when I was not looking for it, in fact I wanted to be away from anything "love" related, I never expected, I actually saw the guy before twice and I never thought anything of him, but that day we talked and kissed for the first time, it was all over from that point.

Very nice, thank you...now I hope the "sky' has another great surprise for me with the intensity this one had because now I want it and I am ready for it. LOL
It is time to move on.

posted July 28, 2007 01:55 PM              

you could try out this link
http://sabiansymbols.astrologyweekly.com/list.php

I`m sorry that your relationship / connection didn`t continue with all its intensity. But I think you have to be ready for it, for accepting it and letting a meaningful relationship into your life.
And even though, even if you`re not really ready for it, an encounter can apparently have a deep impact on you. that`s what amazes me.

The NN in the 10th house of this meeting was square Pluto. Maybe the intense (Pluto) feelings or relationship (7th house) would have led you away (square) the destined goal or path of your relations, which would be somehow goal- or workoriented (10th house)? But then again NN in the 10th house is a strong placement, on top of the chart, it seems to imply you have a "common task"´.
Are you sure the final words have been spoken between the two of you?

posted July 28, 2007 02:44 PM              

I was fascinated by the Sabians.

AC: LIBRA 27-28
A MAN ALONE IN DEEP GLOOM. UNNOTICED, ANGELS ARE COMING TO HIS AID
- okay, this doesn`t sound too good I guess.

Venus, ruler of AC:
ARIES 12-13
A BOMB WHICH FAILED TO EXPLODE IS NOW SAFELY HIDDEN FROM DISCOVERY
- yip, it was a narrow escape. I almost had said something I might have regretted afterwards. You just don`t approach someone and ask them if they feel spiritually connected to you. NO, I didn`t do it, but maybe that was the bomb that failed to explode. lol

DC:
ARIES 27-28
A LARGE DISAPPOINTED AUDIENCE
- large audience, yes. Disappointed? Not really. It was a fantastic show.

Mars, ruler of DC:
TAURUS 11-12
A YOUNG COUPLE WALK DOWN MAIN-STREET, WINDOW-SHOPPING
- funny. I was with a girlfriend there, and before we saw the show, we actually did some window-shopping, but we weren`t a couple.

Sun:
PISCES 27-28
A FERTILE GARDEN UNDER THE FULL MOON
-coincidentally it fell on the exact placement of the MOon of the other chart I posted; also this is the exact placement of my draconic Ascendant. I guess, that does have a meaning.
That day was just overflowing with the feeling of "fullness" and satisfaction. So yes, can relate to that.

NN: GEMINI 21-22
DANCING COUPLES CROWD THE BARN IN A HARVEST FESTIVAL
Ah yes, that is so spot on. Awesome! That really capture the essence of my feelings that day, so carefree and enthusiastic.
Maybe it was the meaning of this meeting to experience true warmth and joy?

Vertex:
TAURUS 28-29
TWO COBBLERS WORKING SIDE BY SIDE AT A TABLE
Not sure about that.

Karma:
CAPRICORN 22-23
A SOLDIER RECEIVING TWO AWARDS FOR BRAVERY IN COMBAT
LOL You have NO idea how much courage it took me to approach him, shake his hand and just thank him for delivering such a fantastic performance. But I did, and I received one of the most surprised, yet warm smiles I have ever seen.

I love those SAbian symbols. So telling. And somehow, maybe I am biased here, but somehow those sabian symbols have a total different vibration than the first ones I posted. Or am I just imagining this?

posted July 28, 2007 04:16 PM              

quote:

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I`m sorry that your relationship / connection didn`t continue with all its intensity. But I think you have to be ready for it, for accepting it and letting a meaningful relationship into your life.
And even though, even if you`re not really ready for it, an encounter can apparently have a deep impact on you. that`s what amazes me.

The NN in the 10th house of this meeting was square Pluto. Maybe the intense (Pluto) feelings or relationship (7th house) would have led you away (square) the destined goal or path of your relations, which would be somehow goal- or workoriented (10th house)? But then again NN in the 10th house is a strong placement, on top of the chart, it seems to imply you have a "common task"´.
Are you sure the final words have been spoken between the two of you?

DD

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Thank you, I have never felt an intensity with anyone as I did with him and for the next one I wish i can replicate that (at least, or even more) but what it is , it is.

And it is not up to me, before any other words can be said between the both of us he is going to have to do some cleaning up with his ways, so, no it is not up to me but him.
I have moved on and I am open to new adventures now, it is hard to move on from a connection like this because this is all you want, but as i said if I can find those feelings somewhere else then I am totally open to the idea, I used to beleive there was one person that would complete you , right now I hope it is not that way.
I really don't want to wait till my next life for him LOL
So far no luck though.

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

posted July 28, 2007 08:11 PM              

quote:

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You will be surprised how differently your partner perceives the same things

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posted July 29, 2007 06:44 AM              

to see which impact this meeting made on him I`d suggest to make a composite or Davison between the meeting and his natal chart and a synastry.
Like for example, I just for fun did a composite concerning the meetingchart of Music-man and me (even though it was just some nice words at the stage door - that was the first music-man btw.lol), and was a little bit surprised to find that in my composite with the first meeting chart there was a Pluto-AC-conjunction in Scorpio (yeah, talk about intense!) and an exact (!) Venus-Mars-conjunction in Aquarius in the 4th house and a NN-Destiny-conjunction in Virgo at the cusp of the 11th house. LOL

His composite with the meeting chart surprised me a little bit actually.
He had an exact Venus-Ceres-conjunction in Aries in the 4th house, an exact Mars-Valentine-conjunction in Aries in the 4th house and also Venus and Mars was in wide conjunction (orb: 7°).
Also a Saturn-Sun-conjunction in Aries in the 4th house.
Also an exact Amor-Karma-conjunction in Pisces in the 3rd house, which was trine the NN in Cancer in 7th house.
Hmm, interesting.

With all that 4th- house - action going on, it actually looks as maybe there was some "family-karma" between us; at least, as strange as that may sound, he definitely feels like family to me.

I looked at that chart instead of the one I posted here, because I must admit, I`m a bit afraid of what I might find (or not find) in the one of last november. *sighs*
But I have the feeling I won`t be able to resist the temptation for very much longer.

However, what you said about being able to have those feelings again for someone, well, I hope so, I really do.
But actually all those past months, especially the last year with much intensity, I kind of sought these kind of feelings I once have felt, but it seems that I am not able to "re-awake" those feelings with someone else.
But maybe everyone is different, so have the feelings to be different.
Or maybe it`s just me.
I really hope you find what you`Re looking for, and I think it`s great that you moved on and don`t get stuck in the past.
You shouldn`t have to wait until the next life, because even though I believe in reincarnation, every life is unique and should be lived intensely.

DD

posted July 29, 2007 07:19 AM              

However, I want to look a little bit further into the one of last year november, because this concert had a very lingering influence.

1. AC:
Cancer 28 - 29
A greek Muse weighing New born twins in golden scales

Chartruler, Moon in Pisces at the end of 8th house conjuncting the cusp of 9

Aspects to the AC:
trine Moon in Pisces in 8 / 9
trine NN in Pisces in 8
quinkunx Pluto in Saggitarius still in 5
trine Mars, Amor, Destiny in Scorpio in 4, but conjunct the 5th cusp.

So, that means, that the ASC is part of a Grand Trine in Water, including ASC, chartruler Moon and Mars.
Also, Moon and Mars fall into Water-houses, but conjunct the cusp of the fire-houses.

AC in Cancer with chartruler Moon in Pisces in 8 is also a very watery position.
Some strong emotions indicated here?
The ruler of 1 in 8th house: The meeting has a deep impact, a transforming influence, or if we say ruler of 1 in 9th house: the meeting will expand the horizons of both people? Or just one person?
The meeting itself, AC in Cancer, is an emotional one. If this had been a normal meeting and if there had been the chance of a relationship, then this would have been probably a very deep, caring, nurturing and emotional connection.
Maybe with karmic implications, because there seems to be so much water involved, signs and houses. Even the chartruler, Moon, naturally rules a water-sign.
FEelings can run deep, I guess.
AC trine Mars gives it some drive and energy, but as it is in water-signs, this energy may be turned inwards, only felt internally (Mars is also in the 4th house, very much deep inside this meeting`s soul).
Moon trine Mars arouses some passions and deep emotions, too.

Also, Mars itself, the old ruler of the 5th house, in its own sign Scorpio (intense I guess), in which house would oyu see it?
It`s technically in the 4th house, but not far away from cusp of the 5th house. So, which house is it really in?
However, this Mars is also conjunct Amor, which naturally means that Amor is also trine Moon and ASC. A feeling of general love?
Well, I really loved attending to this concert!
And then there is ASC quinkunx Pluto, if you count quinkunxes, too.
SEems here are some troubling deep emotions indicated, that are not in the open, but boiling beneath the surface. There is the need to adapt to something. Pluto is still in the 5th house, which is another indication that this is an intense event. No wonder, I could feel the energy so strongly! With Mars in Scorpio conjunct 5th house cusp, Pluto in 5th house, AC trine Mars and Sun in its own house, the 5th house, there was a LOT of energy in the air. Also, the 5th house is the house of creativity, of joy and entertainment, and this was a concert.
I`m sure there can be seen more in this planetary exchange, but the placement of the ASC seems to indicate a strong exchange of energy and emotions which run deep.
I`m not sure what the Sabian means, though.

posted July 29, 2007 07:28 AM              

Aspects:
conjunct NN in Pises in 8th house
conjunct MC in Aries in 9th house
trine Mars in Scorpio in 4th house
trine Jupiter in Sagittarius in 5th house
quinkunx Saturn in Leo in 1st house
square Pluto in Sagittarius in 5th house
sextile Karma in Aquarius in 7th house
exactly trines Amor in Scorpio in 4h house
trines Destiny in Scorpio in 4th house

Hmm, seems it gets a lot of aspects, most of them pretty good, but some are difficult to deal with.
All, in all it`s maybe a bit TOO much, too much involvement, too strong emotions to handle them.

I don`t feel like I can interprete them now. Maybe someone else has an idea?

posted July 29, 2007 07:34 PM              

As far as moving on I have no other choice now , do I? can't fight freewill and would not want to control freewill, it is as simple as that.
I am keeping my hopes up now, that's all.