posted August 14, 2007 11:23 AM            

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Non-marriage unions can be happy or unhappy with their position quite frankly. Taking the position you like to take, I wouldn't be surprised if you run into the marriage problem multiple times in your life, because undoubtedly you're going to run into women who like the idea of marriage. You don't have a better or more logical leg to stand on as far as avoiding marriage, than they do in wanting marriage. The dynamic is the same either way (though you seem to erroneously believe otherwise). It's still two people forging a living together having to tackle the same issues, having to make the same concessions, and having to evaluate whether the situation is worth the occasional unpleasantness. It's all the same in the end.

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Actually I gave enough logical points when it came to my position; Just that people still haven't taken the legal proceeding invloved interms of marriages. Infact, the continuing changing family structures still indicate perfectly that non-tradional unions are on the rise. Have a read:
http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2007/june13/rosenfeld-061307.html

Still convinced that its not viable to add in non-traditional unions? Lol!

Guys... Subjectivism is irrelivent when it comes to a debate. Yeah we can argue for such a long time about love and happiness but stats go well beyond this report. Its more viable to assume that a marriage has a smaller chance to last these days (backed by statistics offcourse) however, I do keep faith in marital unions since I know for a fact that one cannot surely predict the outcome of such things. Infact, divorce rates slightly dropped in the year 1995:
http://www.cfc-efc.ca/docs/vanif/00005_en.htm

However, my preferences just go along with the ever changing family structures and ideals of today's society and I an under no illusion as to what I have planned for myself and my future.

Will I change my mind in the years to come? Who knows... Its a very big if but hey; I am a Libra remember? If its benifitial, why the hell not?

posted August 14, 2007 05:16 PM            

but what does 993 Virgo Male Capricorn Female mean???
I am in love with this Virgo male although it says that we are at the bottom of each others lists. But i could be crazy about him because he has Aquarius in his chart and rising,And i have air and fire in my chart??? i don't know. I'm going off topic. But what does it mean??

posted August 15, 2007 03:14 AM            

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Actually I gave enough logical points when it came to my position

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When? Are my Sag planets missing a detail? To my knowledge you haven't acknowledged that, married or unmarried, a couple's union is still the same, and faces exactly the same issues. The only difference I can see is that with a marriage there's some legal recourse if things go south. There really isn't a benefit to staying single as opposed to getting married if you're wanting to cement a long-term committed relationship.

Your first article is about interracial and same-sex couplings. The article doesn't speak to benefit staying unmarried versus getting married. It chronicles how we got to same-sex and interracial couplings.

Your question as to whether or not it's viable to add in non-traditional unions is moot, because that wasn't what you were originally speaking to. You were speaking about straight couples who don't get married. Not gay couples, not interracial couples. Are you looking for stats on gay men? No. (We don't know whether or not interracial couples were a part of the data, but) Do you really think race is going to play a significant role in changing the stats that were collected? No.

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However, my preferences just go along with the ever changing family structures and ideals of today's society and I an under no illusion as to what I have planned for myself and my future.

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posted August 15, 2007 03:25 AM            

Didn't I emphisize that society has changed? If you look at North America in general you cannot deny the huge influx of immigrants comming in and thus wouldn't it bring in different views on relationships and marriage? There are a lot of gaps this survey doesn't cover.

Acoustic and everyone else; Its not such a big issue. I was merely pointing out that leaving out non-marital unions would have been a mistake and not trying to argue the superiority of one union over another. I personally think that non-marital unions are perfect for two individually minded people would just want to be in a partnership and as the article points out, family structures and ideals have changed in the modern society and thus with change comes different outlook on what marriage is.

Its not a personal bout. So don't make it that.

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There really isn't a benefit to staying single as opposed to getting married if you're wanting to cement a long-term committed relationship.

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posted August 15, 2007 03:44 AM            

Cancer Female 1056
Taurus Female 1038
Sagittarius Female 1037
Virgo Female 1015
Pisces Female 1015
Gemini Female 1014
Leo Female 994
Aries Female 973
Aquarius Female 969
Capricorn Female 968
Libra Female 964
Scorpio Female 961
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it alomost stands true with me except for the taurean woman's place at second . but yeah , i know quite a few cancerians who are madly commited to their taurean ladies .

in my case pisceans could have easily taken the second place .

though i am not disagreeing with saggitarian ' position and if any one has marked , cancerian stand first in their list .

can sag ladies put some light , what attracts them to the crab males ?
btw, i love katie holmes !

posted August 15, 2007 03:35 PM            

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Didn't I emphisize that society has changed? If you look at North America in general you cannot deny the huge influx of immigrants comming in and thus wouldn't it bring in different views on relationships and marriage? There are a lot of gaps this survey doesn't cover.

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And just how would you know that these immigrants would ALL be sharing your view on relationships and marraige? How do you know that they're views may not be ALOT more conservative than yours or that this survey doesn't already reflect their own ideas about relationships and marraige? For example: if you shared your views of relationships and marraige with my immigrant Roman Catholic mother......she would probably have a cow (no offense). And this is despite that fact that she, herself, is a divorced woman. I have a Somali friend whose mother would probably react the same. As for herself, and I'm judging from her love life, she probably has similar views to mine. Not saying that all immigrants are like this (I'm not denying the power of individual preferences) but lets put things into perspective here.

posted August 15, 2007 05:40 PM            

It probably did, but one can't exactly tell since its backed by so little information. Ah well.

posted August 15, 2007 10:48 PM            

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You have killed this string's joy with your negativity.

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True true.

posted August 16, 2007 07:46 PM              

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It would have been simple to say, "I'd like to see a larger sample size confirm these results," but instead we got a myriad of excuses why this report might be inaccurate. I don't see any motivation on the author's part to catalog the results incorrectly (I could expound on all the reasons here, but for the sake of brevity I won't).

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I feel like I did something nice and got spit on for it :/ I hope this string dies.

posted August 22, 2007 12:06 AM            

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Dulce, do you even know what point you're trying to make? No offense but you completey missed out on what that article was trying to say. It said INFLUENCE as in we aren't even taking the immigrants into considersation but rather the defination of marriage itself. As I said, more and more couples aren't going with the, quote "traditional" means of getting married because they are modifying their own ceremonies so to speak (and don't worry; We aren't counting the church of scientology in this equation Lol!) A little thing that the survey failed to clarify upon.

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Ummm, as a matter of fact I do know what poj tI'm trying to make. Let us go back to the fact that you keep trying to say thatb the survey didn't include this and that group to prove its supposed fallacy; I'm just trying to point out to you that it probably wouldn't make a difference if you did or did not include such and such groups. I (and Aqua and Acoustic) have been trying to keep us on the track that you keep steering us off with all these "what ifs". I think you should really be asking yourself whether or not you get the point I'm making.

posted March 26, 2012 01:30 PM            

overall I loved my relationship with : Aqua, Scorp and Sagg