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Node
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posted August 11, 2007 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those who are interested in further exploration of the significance of a Oriental planet - the planet that precedes your Sun in the natal chart....Here is a link:> http://www.khaldea.com/planets/oriental_intro.shtml
    Quote- in- part from the introductory page by Michael Meyer-
    From ancient times, the planet crossing the eastern horizon — the astrological Ascendant — immediately before the Sun has symbolized the practical channel through which solar will and vitality is expressed. The ancients called this body the "Planet of Oriental Appearance" because it appears in the eastern sky immediately before the Sun — that is, the planet rising directly before the Sun. Today, we refer to the Planet of Oriental Appearance at your birth time as your Guiding Planet or your Skill Symbol, because it represents both your inner guiding principle and your innate skills and special faculties, and how both may be best realized, enhanced and applied. Your Skill Symbol shows you how to best handle and cope with the demands and opportunities of daily life in a skillful, productive and fulfilling manner, and where your inherent skills and practical abilities lie. As your Guiding Planet, the planet rising immediately before the Sun symbolizes the faculties and inner senses scouting your path ahead, or your ability to navigate the best course to self-realization and fulfillment.
Edited to add So what about Chiron? Meyer does not include the Centaur but Zane B. Stein has an Asteroid packed tool belt.....he has this to add.
SO WHAT ABOUT CHIRON HERE?
As I see it, with Chiron as the Scout planet, a person is drawn to the untrod path, led by the urge to find passageways, doorways, bridges. There is an acute awareness of the woundedness around them, which leads to the urge to heal, or teach, or guide, or lead the way towards self-sufficiency. There is a maverick quality to the way the person handles day to day efforts. Not rebellious...that's Uranian. Rather, a person goes his own way, at his own speed, never concerned that others may be moving faster or slower, or going in a different direction. To quote Thoreau, "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer."

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posted August 11, 2007 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for librarising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, my "Guiding" Planet is my Venus which is in Cancer in the ninth house.

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posted August 11, 2007 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm confused. How do we know which one is the guiding planet?

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posted August 11, 2007 11:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm confused. How do we know which one is the guiding planet?

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Finding your Planet of Oriental Appearance is easy. If you have a copy of your birth-chart, simply look to see which planet immediately precedes the Sun in a clockwise direction. If you haven't gotten around to having your birth-chart calculated, you can find your Oriental Planet by referring to an ephemeris for the day and year of your birth. Your Oriental Planet is the planet immediately preceding the Sun in the zodiac. For example, if the ephemeris shows your Sun as 22 degrees Scorpio and Neptune is shown as 10 degrees Libra, Neptune would be your Planet of Oriental Appearance — if there are no other planets between 10 degrees Libra and 22 degrees Scorpio. The depictions which follow describe each of the nine planets (the Sun is never in Oriental Appearance) when acting as a Guiding Planet and Skill Symbol.

Mine is Neptune by a hair. Mercury, Mars and Venus are all close.

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posted August 11, 2007 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting, Node. Thanks for posting. I have Chiron, so thanks for the add on as well!

Jupitersgirl,

Here is the quote from the article that shows how to find the leading planet:

Finding your Planet of Oriental Appearance is easy. If you have a copy of your birth-chart, simply look to see which planet immediately precedes the Sun in a clockwise direction. If you haven't gotten around to having your birth-chart calculated, you can find your Oriental Planet by referring to an ephemeris for the day and year of your birth. Your Oriental Planet is the planet immediately preceding the Sun in the zodiac. For example, if the ephemeris shows your Sun as 22 degrees Scorpio and Neptune is shown as 10 degrees Libra, Neptune would be your Planet of Oriental Appearance — if there are no other planets between 10 degrees Libra and 22 degrees Scorpio. The depictions which follow describe each of the nine planets (the Sun is never in Oriental Appearance) when acting as a Guiding Planet and Skill Symbol.

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posted August 11, 2007 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Moonie ~

Me Neptune too

Some old LL threads on the guiding planet (couldn't find one that Iqhunk had written in :\ ):
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002262.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000820.html

Thanks Node Good info as always
Haven't read the article for a couple years, but wondering if transits to the Guiding Planet would become more important, as I feel they are to one's Chart Ruler..... ??

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posted August 11, 2007 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but wondering if transits to the Guiding Planet would become more important, as I feel they are to one's Chart Ruler..... ??
I don't know about more important but I do use it in 'event' charts i.e. Solar Returns [especially] and lunar returns/oppositions. Progressions as well. But I feel that as we mature these add layers to say you and Moonies Neptune. Which is a very cool planet to have as point. Mine is that 'ol Moon! .....in Pisces surprise!
    As Guiding Planet, the Moon symbolizes a reflective mind highly sensitive to everything in the environment and to the ever-changing flow of life and events. It places us in touch with our root power, which has a natural source, grounded in nature and natural activity. Yet the busy managerial and organizing functions of Moon as Skill Symbol, or its tendency to focus on the needs and requirements of others, may get in the way of tuning into your own needs and the larger issues and currents operating beneath the pressing demands of your often quickly changing mundane life. To serve us as a Guiding Planet, the Moon asks one to schedule quiet time for meditation or for a peaceful and relaxing nature walk.
I tend to walk in others shoes far too much [mutable empathy]

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NeptuneLove
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posted August 11, 2007 02:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus is my guiding planet too

Also the most aspected one

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posted August 11, 2007 02:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In fact Chiron and the Mc are more oriental
And i can live with the description of Chiron oriental

But if you look at it stictly, Venus is my oriental planet... in the 9th house in Taurus
I do recognize myself in it and also in the narcistic pitfall

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posted August 11, 2007 03:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mine is Uranus

"More than most, you may find it difficult to "fit in""

"More than most others, Uranus Guiding Planet people are often dissatisfied with themselves, their place in the world, and with general conditions. This is because Uranus lets them know in some definite yet unexplained way that things could be better, yet it doesn’t necessarily give much insight into how to manage things "after the revolution.""

YUP!

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posted August 11, 2007 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is Mercury. Big surprise, huh?

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Jan_A
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posted August 11, 2007 03:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me it is Jupiter. I am not sure, if I feel so.

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posted August 11, 2007 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is Saturn...Thanks for the help .

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posted August 11, 2007 04:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edit: nevermind

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Node
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posted August 11, 2007 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jan-A: Hi ya, did you happen to check out Tonya Harding's chart in the Jupiter section? Wow! I love the programme Meyer uses. Wish Astro.com added speed, Epimthean/Promethean etc.- but it is a free site.

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posted August 11, 2007 07:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mine is Mercury. Big surprise, huh?

Mine too. AG, I've noticed there are a good amount of similarities in our charts.

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As Guiding Planet, Mercury suggests inner guidance in the form of an intuitive sense of the connections and associations existing between people and things. As Guiding Planet, Mercury acts in a more electric, instinctual and intuitive sense than it does in its aspect as Skill Planet. Yet, true to the dual nature of Mercury, the highly active mental and analytical activities of Mercury may get in the way when it comes to tuning into the more abstract, guiding qualities of the planet. Surface noise and distractions may first need quieting with the help of relaxation, contemplation and meditation.

Spot on.


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posted August 12, 2007 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is Pluto. It's also the only planet of mine that's relatively unaspected, save a quincunx to Chiron. I wonder what that means.

ETA: I just read the description. It's pretty accurate.

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posted August 12, 2007 10:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is Chiron, and yes I am very aware and/or tuned in to others' suffering and I try to help.

If you don't count Chiron, my guiding planet is Jupiter (which is also my chart ruler).

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posted August 13, 2007 03:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury

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Jan_A
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posted August 13, 2007 04:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Node!
I agree with you, that the style of the chart is really good.
Tonya Harding's chart is so powerful. The red lines in my chart are almost nothing, if I compare it with her chart.
All the best wishes,
Jan

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posted August 13, 2007 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is Mars, I think?

It's the first planet before the Sun, right? Mine is Mars. I have Mars at 4 of Aquarius and the Sun at 5 of Aquarius.

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posted August 13, 2007 06:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus De Milo
Yes, it is Mars.

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