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Vintry
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posted August 16, 2007 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi!

Just checked my friend's natal chart. She has very few aspects, there's not much going on... What could that mean?

Counting...

1. Sun square Moon
2. Mercury conjunct Saturn
3. Venus conjunct Uranus
4. Neptune conjunct Jupiter (9 degrees)
5. Sun conjunct Pluto
6. Moon square Pluto
7. Mercury sextile Mars
8. Neptune sextile Pluto
9. Mars sextile Saturn
10. Sun sextile Jupiter

also, 2 quintiles, no aspects to Node, 3 aspects to Chiron and 4 to Asc (including Mars conjunct Asc.

If lack of planets in the house means that matters of that house are not prominent in person's life, what does a lack of aspects mean? She has 32 aspects altogether. I have 40. Does anyone here have less than that? I'm sure it's NORMAL to have very few aspects! just curious if it means anything.. thanks

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darkdreamer
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posted August 17, 2007 01:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, let me count:

1. Sun conjunct Mercury (0)
2. Sun sextile Uranus (5)
3. Moon quinkunx Saturn (0)
4. Mercury sextile Uranus (6)
5. Venus sextile Jupiter (5)
6. Venus sextile Uranus (5)
7. Venus square Pluto (3)
8. Venus square MC (1)
9. Mars square Jupiter (6)
10. Mars conjunct NEptune (5)
11. Mars sextile Pluto (4)
12. Mars conjunct NN (5)
13. Mars conjunct AC (2)
14. Mars sextile MC (0)
15. Jupiter trine Saturn (6)
16. Jupiter square Neptune (0)
17. Jupiter quinkunx Pluto (2=
18. Jupiter square Node (1)
19. Jupiter square AC (4)
20. Neptune conjunct Node (0)
21. Neptune conjunc AC (3)
22. Neptune sextile MC (5)
23. Pluto sextile Node (1)
24. Pluto sextile AC (2)
25. Pluto conjunct MC (4)


You see, I have fewer, noticeably.
But I`m not sure, what it means. Maybe just that my planets are not as much "modified" as planets with more aspects. Or that the few aspects I have become more visible, because nothing is there to modify their influence.
Or maybe I`m just using too small orbs. lol But I don`t think my orbs are very small.
HOwever, my chart is a very focused one, with almost all planets on the left side (except for Saturn), and many of them "cuddling" with my ASC and Node.

What do you think could fewer aspects mean?


DD

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Patrick
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posted August 17, 2007 01:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, lets see if i(a cancer ac. or "moonchild")can remember, if yall know lots and lots like Im supposed to you would take into acount that cancers love astrology and my strongest thing that i get from astrology is my ascendent in cancer so any ways let me count
ac squared sun
ac sextile moon
ac squared mars
ac trine jupiter
ac squared saturn
ac squared pluto
ac trine mercury
sun sextile venus
sun opposing mars
sun opposing libra
sun trine uranus
sun trine neptune
sun opposing pluto
mercury trine jupiter
mercury square uranus
mercury square neptune
venus trine mars
venus squared jupiter
venus trine saturn
venus sextile uranus
venus sextile neptune
venus trine pluto
mars conjunct saturn
mars sextile uranus
mars sextile neptune
mars conjunct pluto
saturn sextile uranus
saturn sextile neptune
saturn conjunct pluto
uranus conjunct neptune
uranus sextile pluto
neptune sextile pluto
so in total that is about 32 aspects not counting nodes what not and IN MY OPINION YOU CANNOT JUST SAY THAT ONLY THESE ANGLES ARE ASPECTS BECAUSE I HAVE BOOKS THAT RELATE FIRE AND WATER SIGNS AS EMOTIONAL AND EARTH AND AIR AS THINKING. also i think that no aspect is better then a negative aspect. good question...

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Vintry
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posted August 17, 2007 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I think of a chart like a painting where aspects are colours. I like colourful!
Think of a plain white or black canvas. There's not much to it. Simplicity, little left to imagination. So someone with few aspects will be easier to get to know I suppose.. You won't need to spend a lifetime to understand this person. But I'm talking only about lack of major aspects between personal planets and transpersonal. I am not looking at aspects to Chiron, Node, MC, AC (unless it conjuncts something, stars, asteroinds andangles. They're secondary to me.

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Green Fairy
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posted August 17, 2007 07:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But some claim unaspected planets are very strong..hmm. Maybe there's more than meets the eye here.

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Vintry
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posted August 17, 2007 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GreenFairy,

yes, maybe. I've heard about that too. Same goes for elements. I've almost no fire in my chart and people still mistake me for Leo and Aries ))

But this girl, my friend, she doesn't have unaspected planets. What stands out is her aspects grid, halp-empty: 5 aspects to Sun, 1 to Moon, 2 to Mercury, 1 to Venus and 1 to Mars. That's it!

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shamrock227
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posted August 17, 2007 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shamrock227     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only have 15 (and some of those are reaching - in my opinion).

Sun square Mars (this is 7.52 degrees - I think it's a little too far to count - but it's on the chart so what the heck)
Sun trine Asc (same for this one 7.02)
Moon square Venus
Moon square Saturn (4.41)
Moon sextile Pluto (6.16)
Moon conjunct Asc (now this one is literal )
Venus conjunct Saturn
Venus square Asc
Mars sextile Jupiter
Mars sextile Uranus
Mars conjunct Neptune
Jupiter conjunct Uranus
Jupiter sextile Neptune (5.09)
Uranus sextile Neptune (4.13)
Neptune sextile Pluto (4.32)
(the ones with no numbers listed are 2 degrees or less)

Maybe I am just boring

It's funny but my lack of aspects has always bothered me. I've done charts for my friends and they all have this interesting stuff going on. And, I am a blank slate.
Plus, I have these big ol' clumps instead of a nice pretty chart. Sun and Midhaven are Pisces. Moon and Rising are Cancer. Venus is sitting in Saturn's lap. Jupiter and Uranus are literally on top of each other (.55 degrees) AND Mars is rubbing up against Neptune. Gosh.

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Patrick
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posted August 17, 2007 09:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okk, so lets see, no aspects or lack of, hmm, before i make one comment i guess i should think more positive, what about when 1 planet is right after the other, say cancer then leo, same group of modes, cardinal leads the 2 fixed organizes and mutable communicates so use your cancerplanet to lead your leo planet or ac and have your leo planet /ac manage your cancer planet /ac

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Vintry
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posted August 18, 2007 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patrick,

You've got LOADS of aspects first of all. 5 to Sun, 3 to Mercury, 6 to Venus, 4 to Mars and... I don't know what's happenned to your Moon :) maybe unaspected planet? Anyways, my diagnonsense - you don't suffer from lack of uspects.

As for signs, modes and elements, they represent our energy, how we channel it and in what way express it. I cannot see how their influence on personality can be similar to aspects'. Aspects are modifiers of personality and there's so much they can tell us! Especially point out psychological traits like agressiveness (mars/pluto), romanticism (venus/neptune) etc..

by the way, what does 'Sun opposing Libra' means?

Shamrock,

Sun square Mars is there, the orbs are allowed as much as 8-9 degrees I think, because it's Sun! Anyways, you can probably feel that aspect working on you?

"Maybe I am just boring" - is that you Moon on Asc displaying emotion in public? :) OK, are you boring? maybe :) But then. like I said, how many people LOVE black colour or white, it's classic. To me there's no such a thing as 'boring', it's a matter of taste, like or dislike. We all like different things... and people. Hope you understand what I mean, nothing bad. I like my friend a lot! she's very simple and not complicated unlike other people (puzzle).

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shamrock227
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posted August 18, 2007 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shamrock227     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh - don't take me seriously - I was just kidding about the boring thing.

Actually, I am not boring. I have lots of interests and can speak on lots of different topics (when I can get rid of my shyness enough to actually speak )

What I am is, um, uncomplicated. I am very much "what you see is what you get".

It also makes me easier to "read" or "predict" I guess. A friend of mine is a Cap with a Scorp Asc and boy you'd really have problems figuring out which one she really was unless you knew her birthday. Not me. I'm Pisces. And, I am a classic, by the book, Pisces. I look like a Pisces, I act like a Pisces, etc. If you had my friends write an essay about me - it would probably mirror the Pisces entry in an astrology book.

After a night to think on it - perhaps it means that people with fewer aspects are less tied to fate. They are freer to act freely because they have learned a lot of their lessons and paid off a lot of their karma - and this is the test. Let's see how you do without the teachers looking over your shoulder all the time.

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venus2tinkerbell
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posted December 12, 2014 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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After a night to think on it - perhaps it means that people with fewer aspects are less tied to fate. They are freer to act freely because they have learned a lot of their lessons and paid off a lot of their karma - and this is the test. Let's see how you do without the teachers looking over your shoulder all the time. [/B]

This is really what I was thinking.

I was just looking at my daughter's chart, and at first I was concerned- lol, because she has a lot less aspects than I do (I only have a few charts to compare). I went to google and found this (old) thread. After reading this and thinking about my girl and who she is I like her little bit'a aspects...She is very cool. She's a straight shooter, tells it like she sees it, is super super funny, really generous and sweet, and very uncomplicated (I'm thinking (((hugs))) just might be enough to get us through puberty)....

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posted December 19, 2014 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good info.

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Gabby
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posted December 20, 2014 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow you guys have a lot of aspects!! I have an unaspected moon and mars only has 1 aspect....

I only have 12 aspects...

1.Neptune Sextile Pluto 0.11
2. Sun Conjunct Mercury 0.51
3. Mercury Trine Saturn 0.48
4. Sun Trine Saturn 1.39
5. Saturn Square Uranus 1.55
6. Jupiter Trine Neptune 3.47
7. Jupiter Opposed Pluto 3.59
8. Venus Opposed Jupiter 4.01
9. Mars Trine Uranus 5.11
10. Sun Conjunct Neptune 6.47
11. Mercury Conjunct Neptune 7.38
12. Venus Conjunct Pluto 8.00

Moon sextile NN 3 degree
Pluto Conjunction Ascendant 2.20
Neptune Sextile Ascendant 2.31

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posted December 20, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kannon McAfee
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posted December 20, 2014 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you opened someone's diary and it had nothing written on the pages, would you attempt to start interpreting it? No.

Same with a 'lack of' situation in a person's birth chart. 'Lack of' means there is nothing of that there = nothing to interpret. You interpret what's there. The birth chart that one gets at birth is chosen for its qualities, not for what it doesn't have.

"Lack of" notions are entirely based on the assumption that every person should have every kind of element or aspect represented.

Says who?

Remember, the soul incarnating chooses the birth chart for the qualities it DOES possess, not for what it doesn't.

Planets in their places and aspects in a chart define the energy there. And that is what we work with.

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posted January 15, 2015 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if less aspects gives a more defined life path, your challenges/gifts are more obvious and those few things will be everything that you are about and encompass your while life.
While having more aspects shows your energy will be less directly focused, maybe you'll have more opportunities to use your abilities in multiple ways instead of having your path already karmically set?

I don't think neither is better or worse the energys are just spread out differently and function differently.

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posted January 16, 2015 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon.

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posted February 08, 2015 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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