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Green Fairy
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posted August 18, 2007 07:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have probably read most Pluto aspect-related explanations ans theories (bless Google) but what it's missing is people's real-life experiences.

I'd like to know what was Pluto's influence in your relationships & yourselves..
Say someone has a Moon/Pluto square, how do you experience it? Any examples? What if this square is in a synastry, a composite or a davison chart? How did you and your partner react to it?

I just recently found out i have a Sun/Pluto square (stupid me, not paying much attention to my own chart - mucho lols)
Feels like every single minor issue that might occur in my life hits my self-confidence like hurricane Catrina.

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Venus De Milo
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posted August 18, 2007 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a very Plutonian relationship with a much discussed Pisces. I guess all the Pluto aspects took on even more significance than usual since he had Scorpio rising and so it was his ruling planet.

Let's see... this is what we had going on, Synastry:
His Pluto conjunct my ASC (0 orb)
My Pluto quindecile his Venus (0 orb)

Composite (midpoint method):
Pluto conjunct ASC (12th house).
Pluto trine Sun, Mercury & Venus.

It was a really INTENSE connection. We fell for each other really hard pretty much immediately and started planning our future together, he would always push things further, I always wanted to take things slower... and funnily enough, he pushed things to levels of intensity and expectation that he couldn't bear... TWICE. Once when we first met and then again 2 years later. Now we're barely on speaking terms. Looking back on it all, it's just too intense. Something like that can only be fleeting, because it's too much to bear over time. I always felt my heart in my throat around him, he was always surrounded by an aura of magic to me. I thought he was the most wonderful person in the world. We also stalked each other for time when we weren't speaking. I've gone cold turkey on that, but I think he's still doing it. The whole thing has been just intense, obsessive and completely wacko if you ask me. Textbook Plutonian. I don't want to open the door on it again, I had my heart broken twice, I can't let him in ever again. So yeah.

If you google "Venus De Milo", "Pisces" & "Lindaland", you'll probably find all my obsessive posts agonizing about him and the situation, if you're really curious.

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Green Fairy
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posted August 30, 2007 02:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

I'd like to read more

PS The guy i have a Sun/Pluto square with (double whammy) & Venus-Mars/Pluto squares is still (after 3 years) stuck with me. Still not approaching me though. Moron.

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girlloveboy
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posted August 30, 2007 04:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

I have experience with Pluto square Moon in synasty.
The Pluto person feel extremely obsessed with so much intensiveness - which is very hard for the Moon people to cope with it, he/she would feel its too much for him/her.
Overall, it gives a deep and psychological connection.
The Pluto person need to learn how to controll his obsession, while the Moon person would come through on a transformation regarding feelings.
The key word is: TIME and patience.

With Pluto, theres always the possibility of manipulation,also.

But if both sides can learn their own lessons, the two just feel totally drawn to each other.

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GrlyGirl20
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posted August 30, 2007 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I have the pluto/moon square, venus/pluto opposition, sun/asc/pluto trine, pluto in 5th house, jupiter in 8th house, and mer/pluto square so I'm a bit plutonian lol

Anyway I notice my square with pluto and the moon in terms of how intense and obsessive I can be.

I am dealing with a very plutonian relationship (although the relationship itself ie the chart isn't plutonian he is a venus conjuct pluto, scorpio venus/mercury and pluto person...so both of us combined its pretty intense)
I think that with him he pushes it to a point where its intense and then his sag sun and moon kick in and freak out at how much it is. Then he does something to try to sabatoge the relationship for a time.

And yes I will admit that while were not talking I do in fact "track" him...stalking is such a harsh word lol.

For me emotionally, I feel like I'm always in extremes its hard for me to feel something for someone because then that person is literally THE only one who exists to me, and I'm VERY possessive of him. Its hard because our relationship is very unhealthy...but I know in a sick way that if it weren't intense and it wasn't hard then I wouldn't be as invested as I am.

I also have MANY posts about the double sag guy on here...we've been dealing with each other for a year now...and I haven't seen him since DEC. and I'm STILL into him...its sad yes but oh well.

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GeminiLover75
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posted August 31, 2007 02:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Green Fairy, my bf also has Pluto square Sun and yes he has that same issue with minor incidents affecting him - it seems to be an issue relating to 'rejection' even though that isn't the case in most of the incidents.

I myself have Pluto square ascendant, which I just discovered a couple of weeks ago. Apparently this relates to my reactions sometimes being out of proportion or overpowering or something. (Bob Marks said, "try to avoid using thermonuclear weapons in minor marital disagreements" - which is not that much of an exaggeration!).

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Venus De Milo
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posted September 02, 2007 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think that with him he pushes it to a point where its intense and then his sag sun and moon kick in and freak out at how much it is. Then he does something to try to sabatoge the relationship for a time.

This sounds really familiar *shakes head & grumbles*... So it's a Plutonian thing then? This guy has a Scorpio ASC, so Pluto is really strong in his chart... but he has a very fickle Virgo Moon in the 11th house and Uranus conjunct his ASC.

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GrlyGirl20
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posted October 08, 2007 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus De Milo:
"I always felt my heart in my throat around him, he was always surrounded by an aura of magic to me. I thought he was the most wonderful person in the world"

"...but he has a very fickle Virgo Moon in the 11th house and Uranus conjunct his ASC"

Even though this is really old...I have to agree with Venus De Milo...the double sag guy has that pesky sag sun AND moon...plus his moon and sun are conjunct uranus and saturn. So being scared of any extreme emotion is VERY easy for him.

I did feel like he was the only guy for me...it's hard feeling that way for someone only to find that they are scared of feeling the same way about you.

Right now he and I aren't on speaking terms AGAIN. This time I decided I was done once and for all. All the summer he was telling me things and behaving in a caring way he had never before. Such as saying I miss you...and stuff like that...needless to say it drew me back in. And then towards the end he started to get distanct. My cap moon takes things like that seriously.

Well I find out that he started dating someone on facebook.

Well I told him off...I told him he was a coward for not telling me, and that he was so quick to find someone to date that was his OWN color...(he's caucausion...and I'm african american and hispanic)..that I never wanted to talk to him again, that he had come back into my life for what reason...and that I had trusted him with things I had never told anyone before.

Well being that we go to school together, and I go to a major football university...I knew there was a chance I'd see him at games. Well we played a game this past Saturday...and we have a student section that's on a hill (football fans probably know which school I'm talking about)...and he was right behind me for the duration of the game. Needless to say we didn't say anything to each other...and we didn't even make eye contact...although it was obvious we saw each other.

Venus De Milo:
"I don't want to open the door on it again, I had my heart broken twice, I can't let him in ever again."

This relates to me SO much!! He has broken my heart twice, and hurt me in so many ways. But I can't let go for some reason. As much as I want to forget him...I also don't want to and the idea of him with someone else...hurts. But I know what he did to me and how he manipulated me...so it hurts...

Anyway plutonian relationships...are never half way. They're either completely all or nothing...and now he and I are nothing. I'm not indifferent to him as much as I want to be. I'm trying my hardest to be. I'm also not "tracking" him anymore. I'm either distant or if I talk to him...I'm in love again...so I say proceed with caution in all pluto relationships...or relationships with ppl who have pluto/scop aspects/placements. As I should have...I have no idea why my cap moon didn't kick in.

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comica23
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posted October 08, 2007 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, the Pluto aspects in my birth chart are:

- Pluto (3rd house) opposed to Mars (9th house) , and both squared to Jupiter - I'm always a bit intense when it comes to thoughts and communication..

- Pluto trine DC/sextile AC - I guess that my intensity is more relevant in relationships than in myself.. ^_^;

- Pluto quincunx Sun - this one I dunno well, but it seems to have something to do with power struggle lol..

But I guess that part of the desire for intensity is due to my 8th house stellium..

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