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taurus/gemini cusp
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posted August 22, 2007 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurus/gemini cusp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hellooooooo!

What does this mean folks?! My moon is in Aquarius and my fiancee's lilith is conjunct by 2 degrees. My fiancee's moon is in Pisces and my lilith is conjunct by 4 degrees!!!

I'm scaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaared!!!

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posted August 22, 2007 03:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi taurus/geminicusp,

a few weeks ago I was scared by a similar constellation: With me, it's my LILITH cj. his SUN. I didn't feel to well with that either, it seemed to me that this could describe a certain undercurrent of our affair ... an unhealthy one, to be honest.

If you want to, check this threat: I posed my question there and a few people added their thoughts:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014113.html

I don't want to frighten you, but in my case I just decided to step back from that affair, because it didn't do me any good anymore. But it wasn't comparable to your relationship anyway, miles away from the "fiance"-thought! Besides, it was the other way 'round, me the Lilith ...

So: Keep the faith and don't be scared just because of one seemmingly uncomfortable aspect. All the best.


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posted August 22, 2007 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurus/gemini cusp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks alvarella777!

I was kind of perturbed earlier, but I'm not so worried now. I think that because we both share this aspect with each other (a double whammy, so to speak!), it might actually help us rather than hinder us. So basically, it might not be the most pleasant of aspects to have but the fact that we both have it at least means we understand each other and can help one another through the hard times!!!

At least that's what I'm hoping!!!

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posted August 22, 2007 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi again,

i agree with you - maybe/probably you have the potential to both learn from that?

I have the feeling that Lilith in general deals with things "hidden in the closet".

Maybe each of you is confronted with his/her deepest fears/emotional horrors sometimes - but since it's the same with both of you, there lies the potential for a real understanding and that you touch each other emotionally on a remarkably deep level. That's at least what I could imagine.

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posted August 22, 2007 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there ^_^ I heard that Lilith represents our darker side, and what we are afraid/refuse/deny to confront. Personally, I think that if our Lilith makes an aspect to another person's certain planet, then this person would remind us of our Lilith side. The other person's planet might remind/arouse th darker side that was hidden inside of us, and we might feel powerless towards this person coz of that. We might also act as our Lilith when it is aroused, so we might hurt the other person back.

But well.. honestly, I think that sometimes we worry too much about what astrology says about our relationships.. ^_^; After all, astrology just tells us about the potentials.. And besides, not every aspect might really have a strong effect (but sometimes, we might give too much emphasis to certain aspects, when we could identify ourselves with them)..
I think that our own hearts are the ones who truly knows how our relationships are, and not astrology. ^_^

*edit* btw, taurus/gemini cusp, since it's a DW, I agree that you can help each other out.. ^_^ bad aspects are not always that bad as it sounds, it's just harder.. but by working together, it could be very rewarding, and even contributing to a stronger bond between yourselves.

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posted August 22, 2007 11:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like you I was always scacred of Lilith contacting anothers planet. With my SO he has Neptune at 14 degrees and my Lilith at 4 degrees...that may be too wide. But anyway my best friend had with her ex-husband Lilth tightly conjunct SN...according to her the relationship was a painful one and lots of anger and even rage she would feel! I also read its painful aspect too. But sweetie don't worry...it is worth going after love inspite of all these horrible aspects you read! Love is wonderful!!!
BUt lilith is a fated feeling kind of aspect too...so it must feel incredibly comfortable being together!

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posted August 22, 2007 11:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about lilith in the houses??? Any importance?!?!?

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posted August 23, 2007 10:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ taurus/gemini cusp ~

re Lillith ..
i associate Lillith with laughter and a particular sense of humour ..
nearest i can get .. is John Cleese in 'fawlty towers' ..
he has lillith trine to his sun ( 1.32 deg orb ) .. his d.o.b. .. 27 October 1939

another one .. Goldie Hawn .. 21st Nov 1945
lillith conjunct venus and square to pluto ..

as for the anger side .. Lillith seems to add an essence of intensity ..
but i think for the dark side of Lillith to show or really be felt ..
is when there are 'anger' type transits about to one's natal chart ..
i guess there could be an element of bitterness about as well ..

in a music sense for Lillith .. nearest i can get to that one is 'The Hamsters' ..
~ http://www.thehamsters.co.uk ~
for some reason i also associate Lillith with a love of music ..
and cheeky sexy fun .. :-))

synastry ..
well i just looked at a few synastry charts between myself and friends .. both genders
and .. i only keep synastry charts of folk whom i get along well with ..
Lillith aspects abound ;-)))) .. to sun .. moon .. plus other inter aspects ..
that's in all the charts ..

i'd say the one to watch out for .. i.e the dark side of Lillith ..
is when she makes a harsh aspect by transit to a personal placement ..
i've got a feeling women have a bit more trouble with her than men ..
i.e. she takes on a slightly different flavor in a woman chart ..

her transits last about 10 days .. she doesn't go retrograde ..
and takes nearly 10 years to cycle around the zodiac ..

the rolling stones song 'paint it black' .. just came on the radio ..
sounds/feels somewhat lillithian to moi .. :-)

general lillith aspects for today .. 23rd august 2007 ..
sextile to sun .. sextile to mercury .. sextile saturn .. trine node ..

just noticed that t.lillith is about 1.5 degree prior to squaring my natal n.node
i don't feel to bad at all .. been singing along to songs on the radio ..
and impulsively grabbing a bass guitar to play along to them as well ..
although there are one or two other transits about ..
t.mars conjunct natal mars .. plus venus to saturn/neptune/pluto ..

all in all i wouldn't worry about the moon/lillith synastry connection ..
actually .. between two taurean suns .. sounds like fun :-) .. ( most of the time )

heres a link re lillith ..
~ http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/005183.html ~
but i can't really relate to the 'bad' side as described in some of the posts ..
( maybe it's because i'm male .. i don't really know )
lilliths 'bad' side to me is just a slight added depth to anger ..
not much more than that ..

i've always though bittersweet dark chocolate might somewhat describe lillith .. :-))
but that's only from my perspective ..

~ HD ~
Lillith .. square moon .. trine mercury .. square mars ..
sextile uranus .. trine chiron .. trine juno ..

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Happy Dragon
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posted August 23, 2007 11:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just to add re lillith ..

twice i've heard of ppl being subject to threatening behaviour from women ..
on both occasions .. those ppl had lillith aspecting their chart by progression ..

i sort of think re lillith .. funny woman / angry woman / sexy woman
even john cleese as basil fawlty has a bit of a b*tchy woman about him ..
even when he's being funny .. ;-)

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posted August 23, 2007 12:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ taurus/gemini cusp ~
at the moment .. transiting Lillith is opposite your natal Mercury ..
towards the end of this month .. i.e the 30th .. Lillith squares your natal Moon
she will be 'exact' around the 10th of september ..
note how you feel i guess ..
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and another one ..
David Cameron .. d.o.b. 9 October 1966
note his lillith aspects ..

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posted August 23, 2007 05:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ taurus/gemini cusp ~
btw: .. his lillith conjoins your moon .. at 0.44 degrees
but your lillith and his moon are 6 plus degrees apart

transit wise at the moment .. for him ..
transiting lillith is squaring his natal lillith ..
'exact' on september 3rd ..

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posted August 23, 2007 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurus/gemini cusp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for that Happy Dragon!

Paint it black - oh yes! I see what you mean!!! One of my favourites, so Lilth and I certainly have that in common! (Saw the stones in concert this time last year - superb!!!)

And of course there was the actual character of Lilith, from Cheers/Frasier - she REALLY summed it up perfectly with that part I think!!!

That's also interesting about the comedic actors you chose as well - both Scorpios! Scorpionic humour is excellent - and very Lilith I would guess!!!

I'm intrigued that the Tory leader shares his Lilith in Pisces with moi!!! Uh-oh!!! (I must go and look up Tony Blair's, as he and I are already astro twins, with Sun in Taurus and Moon in Aquarius, lol!!!)

Ta for the links. You know far from the demonic reputation she has in mythology, I have to admire her strength in refusing to bow down to anybody - least of all, God!!! That's quite impressive - girl power!!!

Thanks again HD - I will note the effect that Lilith has opposite Mercury, and square my moon come September - I dare say I'll have to watch out for some fairly biting speech and possible acid tounge?! And I might feel slightly darker. On the more positive side, I should be more alert and no one will be able to fool me! (I hope!)

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posted August 23, 2007 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey TGcusp - I too have experienced the terror of noticing strong lilith action with my significant other. we have it on every level--synastry, composite, davison. so i looked into it, & my sag sun was happy to frame the info in a positive light.

the good stuff...i've read that, among other things, lilith reprents our anima/animus. anima is the unconscious feminine side in a man; animus is the unconscious masculine side in a woman. part of maturing & becoming a whole person is incorporating into our personality our anima (for a man) or animus (for a woman). so when we have someone close to us stimulating that part of our psyche, it can awaken us & help us grow into more whole, complete individuals.

bad stuff...i agree with HD that lilith transits can be a b*tch. any unspoken resentment or rebelliousness is likely to come to the surface. but that's necessary too, & the more honest people are with themselves & others, the less a lilith transit is likely to wreak havoc. but for me personally, it does seem to bring out my more cynical & autonomous side (which may have to do with having lilith in the 11th house natally).

all in all, i think lilith connections in synastry point to a deep bond & people who know *all* of one another, not just the surface stuff. which really is a gift. and my bf & i have probably benefited a lot from lilith's help since we also have a strong neptune in synastry.

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