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Topic: composite venus opp. saturn....does it prevent a relationship in ur experience?
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annaf
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posted August 22, 2007 02:03 PM
  
Hi there,thanks to izodesmozina who mentioned this in the 'red flags in synastry/composite' link, I remembered that I've been wanting to ask this for AGES! So thanks izodesmozina for bringing it up, as I'm dying to know whether any of you know examples where this composite position had a happy ending i.e. that the people actually got it together in the end and a relationship was started. (Or in case you only have sad stories I'm interested in those as well...) The reason I'm asking...in my circle of friends I have 4 major examples of 'couples' with venus-opp-saturn in their SYNASTRY chart (with loads of other strong saturn contacts I should add.) Now in all 4 cases there is an extremely strong attraction between them, in fact all of them consider the other person the love of their life. However, only in two cases a relationship could be started. With the other examples they were basically too inhibited to declare their love and go for it...a lot of intimidation, I'm not good enough, she/he couldnt possible like me-thinking etc. etc.... Even with the two examples that worked out in the end it took ages for them to feel enough trust to make a move. Anyway, anyway, anyway, what I'm saying is, I've basically only had examples where venus-opp. saturn in SYNASTRY created a lot of attraction, but also incredible hurdles for the people concerned. Now with the man I've been in love with for ages, there have been several attempts from both sides to push the connection further (coffees, parties etc). And I strongly sense that there is mutual strong attraction , even if nothing has been declared. BUT an invisible block between us seems to prevent anything from moving further, it really feels like 1 step forward 10 backwards. I have with him not only a venus-opps-saturn double whammy in SYNASTRY but in addition also the venus opp saturn in the composite chart. But unfortunately I have no examples of the this composite aspect from real life, whether it CAN work out. All I know is that I'm incredably exhausted because nothing is moving forward and as I only have this hopeless synastry examples, I'm a tiny bit hopeless because we not only have this aspect in synastry but also in composite. So it would be fantastic if you have any experience you could share, particularly if you have any happy stories which I could use to counterbalance the pessimissm that is starting to get hold of me :-) ...Many, many, thanks! IP: Logged |
jane
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posted August 23, 2007 11:23 PM
Hi anna. I just looked through a lot of the composites of couples I know (current & past couples). I only came across one Venus-Saturn opposition. This is between my sister & her bf. They got together very quickly--they were living together only a couple of months after first meeting. But they don't have any hard Venus-Saturn aspects in synastry.This isn't a romantic relationship, but one of my best friends & I have a tight Venus-Saturn oppostion in our composite. We hit it off immediately & became very close, very quickly. Those were the only Venus-Saturn oppositions I saw in composites, but I did come across many Venus-Saturn squares between long-lasting couples. I'm becoming convinced that hard aspects in a composite don't function the same way as they do in synastry. While hard synastry aspects seem to enhance the negative sides of the planets involved--the 2 planets seem unable to gel--in composites, hard aspects seem to serve merely as a link, an awareness between the 2 planets that can play out in either a negative or positive way. My guess is the slow start you're experiencing with this guy has a lot to do with the Venus opp Saturn double whammy that you two have in synastry (instead of the comp oppostion). I really hope you two are able to break through that barrier. It must be so frustrating.  IP: Logged |
Bucketrider
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posted August 24, 2007 01:16 AM
I totally agree with Jane. First look at the synastry and see if the hard aspects in question are found there. If they are and are in the composite, it will be reinforced and definitely will be a major theme/issue in the relationship. That said, I have had venus opposition saturn in the composite several times in both romantic and non-romantic situations, usually accompanied by a hard saturn aspect or two in synastry, although not to any party's venus. The venus aspect of the relationship definitely felt choked. It was not spontaneous and required sig effort to express. IP: Logged |
annaf
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posted August 24, 2007 02:16 PM
Jane & Bucketrider, many thanks for your feedback! Your emphasis on the synastry links over the composite is actually in line with my ‘gut feeling’ because I think the synastry best mirrors the dynamic between us. I think that our strong Chiron aspects (my Chiron aspects every one of his inner & out planets and his 1st house Chiron does almost the same with my planets) prepare the ground so that the saturn links are felt particularly strongly. Not sure how to explain in English what I mean….Those Chiron links didn’t feel as if there was a wound to begin with, but as if a layer of skin had always been missing and we were just ultra-sensitive to the other. It wasnt negative initially because both seemed to have the best intentions, but combined with those saturn links which block the expression of venus (actually ‘choke’ is probably the ideal word, Bucketrider!) one starts hurting the other quite unintentionally…..then you end up with a couple of wounds, saturnian fear somehow stops you from clarifying anything, and on and on it goes….almost like a sew-saw action between Chiron and saturn….if that makes sense! Just my perception of those two in combination..IP: Logged |
alma-noble
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posted August 24, 2007 03:33 PM
Hi annaf!I am in exact situation like you in my relationship with the man I've been in love with for ages - and believe me - I really mean ages!!! and nothing is moving forward, or is, but toooo slowly, like is an invisible block between us ... Is as you talking about me ... We have Venus square Saturn and Saturn opposite Mars,in synastry. Our natal
Saturn are very close so is about my Saturn and his personal planets but because of his Saturn these aspects, in fact a T square is in his natal chart as well. In composite we have Venus conjunct Jupiter trine both Saturn but Saturn square Sun, which isn't great at all in rest are very nice aspects. Is the most beautiful chart I had with someone in which I am romantically interested. Our composite Sun is on his natal Venus, our composite Venus is on my Sun and Jupiter, our composite Moon is on my Sun/Moon midpoint and plenty other nice aspects in synastry and composite as well. Sometimes I blame these nice aspect that they don't have enough power to bring us closer! Other bad aspect we have in the composite is the square between Moon and Neptun and this I think gave us many times lot of wrong hints about eachother feelings and reaction each time we were closer to get involved. At least I felt so many time wrong/scared and I know he had same too.
But the same Moon here is in between Mars and Sun so sextile Mars on one side and sextile Sun on other side, these two foming a trine between them. So we realize the wrong side in the end! Or we'll find the power to go over these problems, I hope! I blame as well his natal T square which involve Saturn that prevent him to express his feelings to have a nice relationship, so our Saturn is a major issue in our relationship and i only hope to cross over it somehow! ... And I'm wishing you to do the same in yours! With somebody else I had Saturn opposite Sun and was very restrictive but we had lot of other squares as well between personal planets. IP: Logged |
Diandra23
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posted August 26, 2007 05:22 PM
HiWell,me and my bf have an opposition in our Davidon,between Venus and Saturn and we are together for a year now  we also got a semiskuare between our venus/saturn in the Composite in sinstary we have my venus sextiling his Saturn. Besides all those hard aspects,we do can be toegther,but i must tell you that exterior forces are all the time trying to pull us apart. You just have to believe in what you want and have with the one you love IP: Logged | |
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