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Love
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posted August 22, 2007 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very curious to know how people would define 6th house placements within the context of synastry. Out of all the houses, the 6th is the one of which I can never seem to fully "get".

I think of all the keywords associated with it and its relationship to Virgo, but how those things manifest in an intimate relationship are lost on me.

I have thought about how it could mean some kind of karmic service to the other person or serving the needs of another in some manner.

So what are the implications of 6th house contacts in a chart? And beyond synastry (say, in a Venus Return or Solar Return chart or a Composite) how would these play out?


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alvarella777
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posted August 22, 2007 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Love,

maybe you can find some additional sixth house-info under this weblink (although it doesn't go much further than most of the common 6th house-descriptions):
http://www.astrologybyeternite.com/Sixth.html

As far as synastry goes I just checked my own previous romances/relationships/ flirts/affairs - and the spontaneous impression is: 6th house has to do with unrequited love.

None of my serious, passionate or long lasting romances/relationships had a 6th house contact in synastry (or: If the 6th house of one of the partners was touched at all, these had been only minor points or aspects, and very few.)

But: I experienced unrequited love twice - in both cases the boys seemed to be very much "in love" or infatuared by me, whereas I was not attracted that much. In both cases I refused to get entangled further or for a longer while.

And in both cases my own 6th house was NOT touched by the boy's planets in synastry. BUT it was different the other way 'round: In one case it was my Venus, Vesta and SN in his 6th - in the other case it was my Sun, Mars and Mercury in his 6th.

They both ... well suffered from heartbreak a bit (it seemed so) whereas I just couldn't feel attracted to them, even if I tried in one case.

Just my very subjective perspective.;-)

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posted August 22, 2007 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's very interesting! I checked my boy-files and unfortunately could not come up with the same thing.

I had 2 unrequited love affairs where desire/love/affection was felt on both sides although I felt it more. And in both cases there were mutual 6th house placements.

With the fisrt guy, my Mercury and asteroids Osiris, Pallas and Vesta fall into his 6th and his Mars, Neptune, Ascendant and asteroids Valentine and Lust fall into my 6th.

With the second guy, his Mercury, Neptune and MC fall into my 6th while my Mars and Saturn fall into his 6th.

I then checked with a couple guys with whom I was not interested but who wanted to pursue something serious with me.

The first one had Neptune and a handful of asteroids falling in my 6th and I had nothing in his. And I definitely was not interested.

With the second guy, we had our moons in each other's 6th.

So I guess it doesn't apply to me. Maybe for you it would have to do with the signs that the 6th falls in??

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jane
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posted August 22, 2007 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you know that expression, 90% of success is showing up? well, i'm the kind of person who's always had a tough time with the showing up part. through most of school and some of college, i had horrible attendance...took off lots of days when i just felt like doing something else. similar thing with relationships, i'm not that consistent. i think i place too much emphasis on being authentic and only doing what feels right...if i'm not in the mood to interact, i just don't. basically, i can be very selfish and undisciplined with my time. consistent routines & i don't mix.

so what the hell is my point, you're probably wondering. for someone like me, i need 6th house action in synastry. it encourages me to "show up", do the regular participation and work that any sort of commitment requires. someone who doesn't have the same problem may find 6th house action overkill, that it makes what should be a fun relationship feel like too much work. for me, the relationship is still fun but i'm more willing to do the daily upkeep when my 6th house is activated. With my bf, his venus is in my 6th & my moon is in his 6th. Not the sexiest of placements when looked at in isolation, but i think they help both of us provide the structure that relationships need if they're going to endure & be reliable.

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ErickaF
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posted August 22, 2007 11:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand how the 6th house is asscoaited to unrequited love??? I thought 6th house is work/service/daily affairs! My SO's sun and jupiter are in my sixth house.

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posted August 23, 2007 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely disagree with the unrequited love assessment (respectfully!).

I have Pisces intercepted in the 6th house and all my major loves, all very much reciprocated, were Pisceans.

My ex-husband was a Sun/Mars/Venus in Pisces, and that was probably the greatest love affair I've ever had. He also has Saturn exact on my ASC... and honestly... although I loved him so much, the relationship was so hard because he was so authoritarian and fatherly (he was 2 years younger! gah!) and just plain tyrannical. He constantly treated me like an employee and frankly, some of our fights would degenerate into this teenager/father bickering, with me saying "stuff yourself! i don't answer to you! i don't have to tell you! get lost!"... It was so retarded. This experience has made me wary of 6th house placements, because yes, I was very much taken care of, but it was also quite oppressive, not helped I'm sure by that Saturn sitting on my ASC.

My high school sweetheart was a Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus in Pisces! LOL! Holy crap! I was so madly in love with him, in that teenage way. I can't really remember that much about our dynamics, it wasn't an adult relationship, so I don't know really.

Lastly... the Pisces Psycho I always talk about. He only has the Sun & Jupiter in Pisces. He was always trying to help me and take care of me and asking me what I need, like he wanted to be in my service or something. He was constantly pushing for me to move into his house. I really think he had this fantasy of taking care of me, he used to talk about it in that context too. Anyhow, I hate his guts now, but I loved him more than anyone before he hurt me.

So thats what I think about 6th house placements. I think they make the planet person want to take care of you, be responsible for you. I think, depending on the rest of the chart and other aspects, they can be oppressive and create an employer-employee dynamic.

I'm really interested in what everyone else has to say on the topic too, and how they've experienced it.

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darkdreamer
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posted August 23, 2007 03:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to a theory the 2nd quadrant, 4th, 5th and 6th house, is the emotional quadrant.

In the 4th house you have feelings (therefore the deep impression, that people with connections to your 4th house make on you).

In the 5th house you express your feelings, therefore the link to romances and creativity and even children; in the best case children are the result of shared and expressed feelings.

The difference is, in the 4th house you can have the most intense feelings and are a real sensitive soul, but it`s the 5th house that shows how you express them.
Let`s take myself as an example:

I have Aries on the 4th house cusp, with Mars in Sagittarius in 1st house conjunct Neptune and ASC.
It seems to imply some real difficulties concerning my deeper feelings. It sais that I am really capable of enthusiastic, passionate feelings (Mars as the ruler of 4th house), which are very much part of my persona (ruler of 4th house conjunct ASC). It lead to the fact that, my feelings very strongly influence the way I also physically feel, my health for example. The Neptune conjunct the ruler of my 4th house means, that I am sometimes confused over my own feelings, yet sensitive. Maybe it is also a sign of being "spiritually in touch with my feelings", but maybe I can`t really see or grasp it always.
But since Aries on 4th house cusp also can show a rather aggressive behaviour, and it is placed on my ASC, I tend to passive-aggressive behavioural pattern, too. With Neptune connected to it, I am very much capable of "turning a blind eye" on my own feelings.

However, in a nutshell I would say there is some emotional turmoil inside of me.

Now, the cusp of my 5th house is in Taurus with Venus in Capricorn in 1st house.
That indicates, that I express my feelings in a much more controlled and calm way than the placements of my 4th house would lead you to think. They are still there, those fiery feelings inside (some suppressed anger and aggression also there), but I express them in a rather peaceful manner, not likely to blow up instantly. But if I do, it can get really horrible.

However, how does the 6th house comes into play now?
Well according to that theory, in the 4th house you have feelings, in the 5th house you express them and in the 6th house your environment notice your feelings and react to them, which means you have to modify or refine the expression of your feelings.
You kind of "fit in" your feelings in your next environment, which also includes your workplace.
Maybe you feel sad and sick (4th house), you want to cry (5th house) and go home (5h house), but you can`t, because there is so much work to do (6th house); the demands of the environment have also to be met. Actually sometimes you have to make some compromises; you can`t always express yourself or your feelings the way you want to.
On the other hand, if things go well, your environment will accept your emotional expression and support you in them, which relates to your everyday-life.
In my case, my 6th house cusp falls also into Taurus with Venus in Capricorn. So basically my environment supports my calm, controlled way of emotional expression.

so, I think the 6th house can be important in relationships, because it shows how the other one reacts to your expression of feelings and how you adapt to your environment. I`d look at the nature of planets here and of course at the aspects.
for example:
My Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, ASC, NN fall into my best friend`s sixth house, and it`s me she turns to to explain to her the reaction of her environment towards her feelings, if she doesn`t understand. And we always have been a good working team, because we can adapt to each other (her Mercury, Venus, Mars and Pluto also fall into my 10th house).

DD

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posted August 23, 2007 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! Thanks guys! That was super informative. I think I'm going to have to read it all over again so it can totally sink in but I get the gist of it.

I guess I was sort of on the right track in thinking that there was an inherent 'service' being provided, or at least a desire to provide a service.

Hey - so can we look at the 10th house now?

Because that's the other house that I'm never 100% sure how to interpret in synastry. I can do it in Return charts but in synastry or composite charts I sort of think of it as the public persona of a couple or the outer layers of the relationship stuff.

I have to laugh, since now that I think of it, the 2 houses that I cannot fully and intuitively grasp are the ones which relate to work.

Maybe that's why almost all of my BFs have a Capricorn NN.

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posted August 23, 2007 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so here's an interesting thing I noticed with the 2 semi-unrequited loves I mentioned above.

I have been struggling to try and figure out how the 2 are connected (since they share the same birthday, among a world of other similarities) and I noticed that with the first guy, his Mars falls into my 6th house (in Sagg) and my Mercury falls into his intercepted 6th house (in Gemini).

With the second guy, my Mars falls into his 6th (in Leo, although his 6th begins at 29 Cancer) and his Mercury falls into my 6th (again in Sagg). In both cases, their Neptunes fall into my 6th as well, which is where I have my Neptune.

So how would you interpret that? It's same same, diferent different as they say in the islands. How very odd.

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darkdreamer
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posted August 23, 2007 05:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Love,

the 10th house - it`s a very difficult house for me, too. Actually all the Earth-houses are difficult to grasp for me, even though I have Moon in 2nd and Pluto in 10th, but Earth is my weakest element, so maybe that is the reason.

However, I have noticed that the 10th house figures strongly in many synastries. I don`t get a very emotional "vibe" from the 10th house, but still it seems to produce strong, lasting relations, and not only work-oriented. Maybe the reason for this is that it`s opposite the 4th house, and everything that aspects the MC also aspects the IC.
Also, I noticed that very often partners have "interchanged" AC/ DC - MC/IC.
for example I feel drawn to (or do they feel drawn to me?) men with Virgo - ascendant or Aquarius / Pisces-ascendant. But Virgo is only in my 9th house, Aquarius - Pisces in my 3rd house, and the sign is square my Sagittarius-ASC and Stellium in Saggi.
But those people very very often have their IC or MC in Sagittarius, and in the case of those attractions even conjunct my AC or DC.

This holds even true with celebrities I "took notice of". Some examples:

My sm-actor: His MC widely conjuncts my ASC, NN and Neptune
Keanu Reeves: His IC conjuncts my ASC, NN and Neptune
Antonio Banderas: His MC conjuncts my ASC
Ewan McGregor: His IC conjuncts my ASC

Jude Law seems to be an exception to that rule. But his ASC is conjunct my ASC and his MC is conjunct my MC.

My parents are also a good example, as my father has a Virgo ascendant, and my mother has Virgo IC.(She also has Moon, V enus, Mars in Virgo).

In my case I also noticed attractions to Aries-Libra asc`s, Suns and Moons, ,which would reflect my IC-MC-axis, which holds true also for friendships.


Maybe the main axis, both main axixes, of the chart just make you notice the other one? Like someone grabs your attention, whenever there is a connection between the ASC, DSC, IC, MC?

DD


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posted May 17, 2011 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumb! what about the 6th guys? Any experiences?

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starcrossedleo
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posted May 18, 2011 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starcrossedleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His sun, mars and neptune all in my 6th house. No wonder I am having trouble letting go...

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posted May 18, 2011 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darkdreamer:

However, how does the 6th house comes into play now?
Well according to that theory, in the 4th house you have feelings, in the 5th house you express them and in the 6th house your environment notice your feelings and react to them, which means you have to modify or refine the expression of your feelings.
You kind of "fit in" your feelings in your next environment, which also includes your workplace.

WOW darkdreamer... you explained so much to me right now...
I have natal 6th in Leo.. Sun,Moon,Merc,Mars are all in my 6th..
The environment does react to me.. I thought it was my pisces.. Also the having to adjust and fit, to where I am.. Or maybe the Pisces asc makes it easier or natural for me to be able to do that..
I have to change who I am everywhere I go? So to speak...

As for synastry wise, most people I meet hit my 6th since I have the stellium. So I guess its hard to explain..
What seems to effect me more is h12, That has had deep effects on my entire being..

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posted May 19, 2011 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starcrossedleo:
His sun, mars and neptune all in my 6th house. No wonder I am having trouble letting go...

Why is that? Please enlight me, cause I have 4 planets on her 6th and I can't let go.

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posted May 20, 2011 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starcrossedleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm just following Avarela's theory on unrequited love and it holds true for me with his planets contacting my 6th house.

As far as grasping the meaning of the 6th house, I found an old chart of mine done pre-computer and it labeled the 6th chart as "Well-Being"
(4th "Home-Life, 3rd Communication etc)

I guess unrequited love can definitely affect someone's well-being!

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posted May 20, 2011 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starcrossedleo:
I'm just following Avarela's theory on unrequited love and it holds true for me with his planets contacting my 6th house.

As far as grasping the meaning of the 6th house, I found an old chart of mine done pre-computer and it labeled the 6th chart as "Well-Being"
(4th "Home-Life, 3rd Communication etc)

I guess unrequited love can definitely affect someone's well-being!


Thanks for your answer.

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Canadiangirl
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posted February 10, 2014 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if there's a SN/Vertex connection in 6th house? Does this mean the relationship never gets off the ground?

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