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Aria
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posted August 28, 2007 11:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Gemini who started dating a 41 year old Cancer man about a month ago and although I've dated extensively, I've never been so confused by a man's actions in my life!

First off, he flies fairly often but is never gone for more than a couple or three days. When he's here, he takes me out to dinner, the movies, museums and is very affectionate (loves being caressed and is the first to admit that he LOVES it!) He also compliments me on my dress (I wear a lot of dresses) on the way I smell, how soft my hands are, etc. Fair to say...he's a gentleman and very complimentary!

I cooked him a home meal and he looked like he'd died and gone to heaven! He loves the fact that my home is cozy, warm and inviting. He always brings back a little something for me (even if its just a keychain,) has brought flowers and bottles of wine.

When we met, there were so many similarities in our background that we both thought it a bit eerie so, there was an instant connection. I felt safe in his arms immediately and told him so and we spent almost every waking moment together every single day he's been in town. Two weeks ago, we became intimate...again, he was complimentary of me as a woman but did not utter a single endearement. The second time was much the same thing...it was exciting, athletic and more akin to a sporting event than it was romantic, tender or full of emotion.

When he's flying, we text each other almost every day. He sends me pictures of the sunset from the plane or of wherever he is or of himself and I respond every time with appreciation and excitement.

HERE'S the problem! While I text things like "dear, sweetheart or honey," his text messages are almost business-like! One day, he MAY call me "bonita" (spanish for pretty) and the next, his email will start with my first name! So, there's no reciprocation whatsoever. When we're together, he's ONLY expressive about my looks, appearance, scent or touch....not a SINGLE word about what he FEELS! Yes, he's always holding my hand and responds to my making the first move in that regard but by this time in most relationships, a man has told me a little something about his feelings for me...even if they're just beginning!

During a conversation, I had to ask (jokingly) whether I was really his girlfriend, to which he responded "of course!" He talks about doing things together in the future, but I'll be darned if I know whether he's developing any feelings for me at all. Now, I'm falling for him HARD and can't reconcile his behavior with his lack of verbal expression!

I know I'm not supposed to push Cancers into anything, nor question them exceedingly but I thrive on communication and feel like I'm the only one developing deep feelings here.

He married very young, has been divorced for 7 years, has a 17 year old daughter and has been in three long term relationships since he and his wife separated. Unfortunately, his ex-wife and at least one of the girlfriends cheated on him. The other, he can only assume about. When I aked him if he was past the pain of those experiences he said yes and that he was ready to move on and find his soul mate.

Needless to say, I need more communication! He often asks me out in a very "round about" way and even after we made love, he said he didn't want to impose when I asked him over the next night to watch a movie!

When he asked me if I'd told my friends about us being intimate, he used the word "boinked!" I nearly broke out into tears but decided on hitting him over the head with a throw pillow while saying that I've never "boinked" in my life!

Can anyone tell me what's going on? Are Cancer men this totally confusing? It feels like we take one step forward and three steps back! He says he can be "syrup-like" and when I told him I didn't think he was, he said that in those situations, he'll use comedy to hide his discomfort! When I asked him (jokingly) to let me know when he's "syrup" he said, "well, its early yet!"

Don't the "syrup", words of endearement and romantic statements come at the beginning of a relationship and then wane with time?

I know I've rambled...but I don't know what to do! Do I ask him straight out how he feels? Do I wait and see? I don't want to be a "friend with benefits!" HELP!


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Isolaede
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posted August 28, 2007 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Aria:

You are a Gemini and open communication, and flowery words of endearments comes as naturally to you as breathing. What you must remember is romantic statements and terms of endearment leave most Cancers feeling vulnerable and afraid of rejection.

In all of my relationships, my partners had to tell me they loved me before I had the courage to reciprocate. I was just too afraid of forcing them to say something they did not feel out of obligation. And it took me months to call my boyfriend “My darling” and almost two years for me to feel comfortable enough calling him “baby.” I know it seems silly, but Cancers really and truly are terrified of overstepping their bounds, and encouraging obligatory responses. They also want to be sure of their feelings (and yours) before they speak.

Unless your man has a strong mercury he’ll probably let you make the first verbal moves. He’ll be shy, and reserved until he starts feeling more secure in your relationship. When the warmth of your love and care start encouraging him out of his shell, the words will start coming. And that should be you first clue that he’s really grabbing onto you in that beautiful, and permanent way Cancers do. Not many people give such obvious signs of their lasting attachment. The world if full of men that will woo you with flowery and often insincere words of love, I hope you can find it in your heart to be grateful for the love of a Cancer, whose words, when he finally says them will comes from the deepest and most sincere part of his heart.

From what you’ve told us, I’d say you Cancer cares about you a great deal. So take heart, and shower your crab with love and care until he comes out of that trusty tough shell of his.

Best of luck!

Isolaede

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TripleWater
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posted August 28, 2007 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TripleWater     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello!

I'm a Cancer Sun and Moon female and have LOTS of male Cancers as friends, so I will give you a little advice.

First, if I were you, I would stop texting him words like "dear sweetheart or honey". It's probably annoying him and that's why he doesn't reciprocate.

Second, THE MAN LIKES YOU SO JUST GO WITH IT : ) If he didn't like you, he wouldn't be spending that much time with you. These men just don't work like that.

It's still extremely early in your relationship. Why rush things??? Just enjoy the time you have together now. He will tell you his real feelings in time.

And as far as "syrup words of endearment". Why do you need those?? Actions speak MUCH louder than words in my opinion.

Good luck!

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Mama Mia
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posted August 28, 2007 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Relax, its only been a month right!!!!

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NAM
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posted August 28, 2007 02:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer~Sun and Moon as well.

And even know I am all lovy lovy I will say as it was said in here that words to me mean nothing, but actions are everything to me.
He will say them in time, when he is ready.Don't scare him away by pushing him to do anything or cornered him, I can tell you that would be one of the things I would run away from! just enjoy and give it time, if it is meant to be it will be.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted August 28, 2007 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This forum is a real sucker for people confused about us cancers lol... Our love style is so simple but people never have usually experienced it ..

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sinderlou
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posted August 28, 2007 03:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think dating a cancer is the next best thing to being bi-polar! but ya gotta love the highs!!!

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Aria
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posted August 28, 2007 03:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys are awesome...

Yes, I certainly have the patience to wait for him - he has all the qualities I admire and I know he's worth it. Plus, I certainly comprehend the "actions speak louder than words" adage and of course I prefer it to the contrary.

I also get that Cancers are slow to commit and apprehensive due to a fear of rejection or perhaps, they're just cautious. None of this makes him a bad person just a bit difficult for me to figure out...and I know its because I'm a Gemini through and through (June 16.)

What still confuses me is his "one step forward - one step back" behavior. You know, texting me by a pet name one day then reversing back to the formality of using my first name the very next day?

And the "boinking" reference? I mean, he didn't have to use the term "making love" precisely but how about saying we were intimate or slept together? "Boinking" just seemed SO dismissive and detached! I felt my heart drop to my stomach! I can't lie...that hurt so much that I cried my eyes out when he left!

I want to be myself and be expressive of my affection (no, not a proposal of marriage just an endearment now and again) without fearing that he's going to freak out on me! Which, by the way, he hasn't and has even said he loves getting my text messages when he's away! Its just that when the responses are so matter-of-fact, I can't help but feel like I just got the cold shoulder... Its like he's basking in MY expressive nature but cannot offer any himself. Does that make sense?

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NAM
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posted August 28, 2007 03:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the boinking issue...
Don't take it so personal as I said I am a cancer and I am not sure if there is a difference between female and male but I can assure you that our sense of humor is sometimes a little out there,we tend to say things we think they are funny sometimes, or cute, or "not so serious" but we don't mean to hurt anyone!
Also, by not being so "serious" about it we tend to "test" the relationship and see if it is really the "real" thing...
I'll explain... If I all of the sudden I start using the big words like "love" "care" etc and you don't feel the same way then I will feel like the one in the loosing seat in the end, and my pride won't let me be that person
It all depends on how well he knows himself and how comfortable he is in opening up, or how mature he is...my best girlfriend is also a Cancer and she runs from these words, but she is 22 and have only experience a long bad relationship in her life, right now she found a great guy and she is still insecure about saying anything like that, even know she would marry this guy tomorrow.

But I know nothing about astrology, I just know myself and a bit of life itself. LOL

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Dulce Luna
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posted August 28, 2007 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what if the nature of his texts changes every other day? It probably just coincides with his mood, I wouldn't read too much into it.


About the verbal expression: I know it is VERY important for geminis to hear it, but most cancers are not good at verbally expressing our feelings. Even I, the cancer w/ a gemini venus, am not good at verbal expression. I prefer to get my message across without words and your partner is probably the same way. Because personally, I equate that with making myself vulnerable and as a Cap Ascendant, I don't like being vulnerable.

About the boinking thing: maybe he's not especially one for using flowery words and such. It kind of goes into the reason I don't normally use petnames with my S.O. (I think its kind of cheesy). Or It could be just his sense of humor like NAM said, so don't take it personally just yet.

All the other signs pont to him actually liking you, so why don't you leave it at that? It's only been a month.

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Aria
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posted August 28, 2007 04:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You've all given me a lot of hope when all I was feeling was anxiety!

He actually DID admit to not being able to express himself well and I attribute that to what you have all told me - it just doesn't come naturally to him. While discussing anything else, he's perfectly eloquent.

And, he also made a reference to having a tendency to keep things light when he gets too "syrupy." That could have been the reason for his choice of "boinking" over any other word. He got a good chuckle out of it and thought it funny, at least.

My only other observation is that given his age (41) and the fact that he's been cheated on at least twice, he's got reason for caution! Add that he's a Cancer and from what I've read, I'm in for a LONG testing period. Again, I'm learning (though you guys) not to focus on that but instead, focus on his actions.

Afterall, when I made him a nice, romantic dinner he DID say that I was spoiling him and that he didn't know what he'd done to be so deserving. For a Cancer, that must have been a HUGE step for him to take.

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posted August 28, 2007 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HI Aria,

I@m not a cancer, but have a cancer ascendant and my ascendant ruler moon is in the 4th house. I can completely relate to him taking ages to verbalize serious emotions, but he will eventually. Agree with everyone else, give him time. And about being business like in a text...he sounds like a busy man and I guess sometimes he probably is just very in that job mode...the important thing is that he still texts back, so no worries. And in terms of pet names....I never use them, find it cheesy as someone else mentioned as well.

Do you know what his moon, venus and mars sign are?

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Aria
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posted August 28, 2007 05:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I know is his birth date: June 25, 1966... does that help?

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NAM
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posted August 28, 2007 05:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His:
Moon: Libra
Venus: Taurus
Mars: Gemini

Yours:
Moon:Capricorn
Venus:Cancer
Mars:Virgo


With this info you can go to cafeastrology.com and read about the venus and Mars relationship between both of you.

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NAM
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posted August 28, 2007 05:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i also noticed you too have your mercury in Cancer I thought this would make for great communication.... but I guess depending on the houses and since we don't know time of birth we won't know which houses you guys have....if I am not mistaken the houses will tell us where the communication gets easier or flows better.

But, I know nothing so if I am wrong please someone say something!!!!!!!!!!!
I am just learning!

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NAM
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posted August 28, 2007 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go:

http://cafeastrology.com/articles/venusvenussynastry.html

Have fun! read and compare but always be guided by your heart.
That's all I have to say now
3 posts in a row... i did my good deed of the day LMAO! (just kidding)<---see, total Cancer.. haha

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annaf
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posted August 28, 2007 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he has a moon opposite saturn natally, so everything that has been said here about needing to feel absolutely safe in a relationship to really let go and not fear rejection is even more pronounced....so again, give it time and I'm sure it'll all be fine. He obviously likes you a lot.

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NAM
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posted August 28, 2007 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
****Delete to take wrong chart of here****

Anna~ How do you know about the moon opposite saturn? I have no lines between the two LOL... I don't know what the lines mean either, I know those are conjuctions, trines and whatever else you guys call it but I don't know which one is what.

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NAM
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posted August 28, 2007 06:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, that was probably a stupid question, I see they are opposite but I would never know to look at that since....again...there are no lines LOL

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annaf
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posted August 28, 2007 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Nam, you used the 26th of June, but he is born on the 25th of June, that will give him a 6 Degree opposition between Moon opp. Saturn.

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NAM
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posted August 28, 2007 07:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
double post!

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NAM
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posted August 28, 2007 07:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOppppsssss. sorry!
here is the right one, and yes there is a "line" ....one day I will get it LOL

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Aria
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posted August 28, 2007 07:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL...You guys are great! Thank you for taking the time to do all this for me! Not to mention, you've inspired me to learn a lot more about all this. I've always been pretty in tune with my own sign but, never really delved very deeply into the nuances!

Thanks to everyone....to all the "cancers" that responded and gave me a peek inside from your perspective and to the rest of you for all of your information, support and guidance!

I will certainly keep you posted! And, should you guys think of anything else this Gemini girl needs to know about dealing with my Cancer man - please let me know!

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Aria
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posted August 29, 2007 01:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay...I've absorbed all the information and done some fair amount of research. Now I have a question: Is it alright for me to ask HIM out somewhere? It's only a Japanese Garden and museum (we're both History buffs) so nothing heavy or even slightly hinting at deepening the relationship. In other words, not a romantic restaurant or interlude of any kind.

I know as a Cancer man, he might spook easily but I really want to go and think he would enjoy it!

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