posted September 16, 2007 12:47 AM            

The man I have a passionate attraction to now has his moon in my 2nd house. It's biquintile to my Sun and Mercury...and honestly, I don't really pay attention to minor aspects in synastry, so I'm not sure if that's at all meaningful...Also, my Jupiter is in my Second house, and my (8th house) Mars is in opposition to my (2nd house) Jupiter. I have a "funnel chart", with Jupiter as the "stand alone" planet.

How I feel about the person: I feel an intense attraction to him and a level of affection and warmth that I rarely feel for anyone. I have vivid dreams about him often. I adore him and think he is wonderful.

How I feel about/experience my second house: I've never been even close to rich or earned much money. BUT, I've had lots of people through my life wanting to give me things. For example, no one has ever wanted to hire me and pay me a huge salary, but people always want to take me out to dinner or give me lovely gifts, or take me on exotic, expensive trips. All of my close friends have commented on how I just seem to attract that. Also, financial luck on a small scale seems to happen when I need it...like when my boyfriend and I were travelling and low on money, an older couple picked us up and bought us lots of wonderful meals and pretended we were their children and escorted to a different country. And then I got a part-time job (illegally) and my boss arranged for us to live cheaply in a beautiful villa. I've gotten hard-to-get fellowships, and a rent-stabilized apartment in Greenwich Village. Men I'm involved with always want to financially support me. BUT, I have a terrible time getting a job, even though I have an advanced degree and am well-liked socially.

posted September 18, 2007 07:14 AM              

Well, i still dont feel very secure on to interpret astrological placementes but...

i have natally my Moon in mmmy 8th,and my bf has his moon on his final 7th house ( maybe its interpreted on his 8th house?)

And my venus/sun falls on his 2nd house,while his Pluto and Jup falls on my 2nd house.

What do i feel relating to him?? Well i completely adore him and love him from the bottom of my heart,and has nt to do with money or financial motives. As neither him or I have money so hihihihi - what i feel is a great sense of security when im with him - secure of what we share and feel-and yup,theres a huge and great profound warmth between us and care for each other.We do tend to hide our feelings ( uncounsciously) - but wnehever with each other,just by looking at each other,we sense what the other wants to say and cant.~

posted September 19, 2007 10:59 AM              

Usually the Eigth house deals with fear and sexualy realted issues. Because it is closely combined to the 7th house, the "fear and sexual issues" are attributed to either personal relationships and/or platonic ones.It shows where a person feels most vulnerable and is most conscience of being rejected.

I have Sun in Eighth, meaning I have issues or fear the father/father figure/males which is true.My relationship with my father is one of fear(on my part) as I have always been very weary of him since childhood.When I was younger, I was brely comfortable in the resence of males however as I grew up my realtionships with other males has always been serious and lacking brotherly camaradie.I can never be"one of the boys" .Most dudes are weary of me because they think that I am too "seriuos-looking".

I allso have Uranus in Eighth, meaning I have issues and fear regarding technological advances, progression and allso more personally, opening my life to the public. I really do fear computers and new-technologically sophisticated gadgets.I allso have trouble feeling at ease in the company of people I don't know(but who doesn't).This position allso highlights a controversial view towards sexual issues that may be viewed as too progressive.I have learned that it is better not to share my opinion with people around the dinner table.I don't know how many people I have unwittingly offended due to the way I see things when it comes to sex.

The Jupiter in Eighth is responsible for my very high sex-drive.I often think the best way to have fun is through sex.Sexually related materials arouse my interests, I don't know how normal it is for a person to dream of being a director of a porn movie.I allso have a natural knack with money and can be resourceful even with a shoe-string budget.

My Neptune in Eighth lets me fantasize over sexual "perversions".This together with my Jupiter is the reason why I am always thinking of sex and "turned on" by even the smallest visual gesture.It could be seeing somebody half-naked or catching a glimpse of a saucy magazine and already I am sprung.There are absolutely no limits to my sexual fantasies. This position allso arouses an interest in religion.I have always wondered if I'll meet GOD within my lifetime face to face or otherwise,just like Moses did or coverse with him like Neil Walsch did in "Conversations with God".

posted September 21, 2007 04:28 AM              

8th house in general... sun 8th house has led to some serious issues with the father figure, unstable childhood, issues with abuse and also connections with the sex industry (thanks for your honesty dude with the sun trine uranus). Perhaps this is also influenced by uranus conj asc by an exact orb, though?

posted September 21, 2007 09:21 PM              

Sun in 8th House/Leo: I have this natally, but I was young when my father passed away in 1989 when I was 9yo. Although I have very little memory of how he had loved me so much. Aside from that, I had rough relationships with certain foster parents that are abusive and controlling. It in turn had a damaging effect on my psyche. In my teenage years, I had very little friends because they feel that I'm always isolating myself in public. But in truth, I was protecting myself from being hurt.

Venus in 8th House/Leo (I don't know if anyone have this Venus Placement...but I'll put it in for good measure): I have this natally and I don't know how to really describe this placement. My Venus in Leo wants to be a drama queen. But with the 8th house, she just wants more than just drama, she wants physical intimacy. But growing up, I always have a thing for the female body. I really don't know why. But for me seeing it turns me on.

Jupiter in 8th House/Leo:
Response from Gert:

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The Jupiter in Eighth is responsible for my very high sex-drive.I often think the best way to have fun is through sex.Sexually related materials arouse my interests, I don't know how normal it is for a person to dream of being a director of a porn movie.I allso have a natural knack with money and can be resourceful even with a shoe-string budget.

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I'm going to highly defend him on this. Sometimes I try not to think about sex-drive on a 24/7 basis. But unfortunately, it's difficult. Especially when my mind has a tendency to look at something that I have no business looking. In addition to that, I also have a "partial" tendency to buy porn movies. Because it has, for the most part, turned me on. 75% of the time.

Saturn in 8th House/Virgo: This is the placement that really concerned me. How can one person tolerate the world full of lust and violence. Growing up, I find this very difficult to grasp. Unfortunately, Saturn encourages me to at least embrace the darker side of life. Although I try to stay on the positive side of life. Saturn wants me to see the flipside of it. The other thing is that I don't want to be sinned by God if I go to the dark side. I'm already feared that one day, God won't hear me if I pray for Him.

"I'm being sucked inside the 8th House gene pool...and there's no turning back. I have to learn how to deal with sex, money, evil, and death. I can't escape it because I was born with it. And I have to live through this for the rest of my life."

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Hank Campbell
Far Rockaway, Queens, NY
*Sun: 8th House/Leo, Moon: 3rd House/Pisces, Venus: 8th House/Leo, Mars: 6th House/Cancer, Jupiter: 8th House/Leo, Saturn: 8th House/Virgo, ASC: Capricorn

posted September 22, 2007 05:52 AM              

everyone has to learn to deal with death, evil, sex and money. perhaps those with the 8th house emphasis have this lesson on a more conscious level than others.

for me, once i acknowledge these aspects of life, in honesty, i find intense joy, and also that i help others by being honest, and not afraid of the dark side, which is, after all only the shadow of god

posted September 26, 2007 01:03 AM            

To take this a step further (or maybe off the path a little?) can we define ALL the differences between the 8th house and the 12th? Because intuitively, I've always felt connections between them beyond the water-house thing.

I haven't got one single planet in the 8th house, but I never fail to end up with Scorpios, or guys with tons of planets in the 8th or more recently, a Scorpio with a bunch of planets in the 8th including his Sun.

I feel like I understand the energy really well from the point of view of experiencing it through another person, but obviously not personally. I have a bunch of planets and asteroids in the 12th and so I do, of course, understand that energy deeply.

Further, my Solar Return for this year has my Sun, Mercury and Vertex all clustered together in the 8th, so I'm more interested than ever.

posted September 26, 2007 07:02 PM            

To me, the main difference is:
12th house: Escapism...losing yourself in the universe, illusion...freedom. Neptune.
8th house: Probing MORE deeply into reality...forcing yourself to face things...intensity. Pluto.

Just consider the differences between Scorpio and Pisces, and you've got the differences between the 8th and 12th houses right there.

8th house=personal unconscious
12th house=Jung's collective unconscious

8th house=intense, profound transformation through sexuality and mortality
12th house=transcendental spirituality

posted September 27, 2007 12:42 AM            

Maybe it's a different type of transformational energy. While the 8th has that Scorpionic intensity to it, I have always felt that the 12th H's is more behind-the-scenes, secretive transformation, both qualities which we ascribe to that house.

But I do agree with:

<<<8th house=personal unconscious
12th house=Jung's collective unconscious

8th house=intense, profound transformation through sexuality and mortality
12th house=transcendental spirituality >>>>>

Maybe the difference is just the type of transformation. Hmmmmm.

posted September 27, 2007 08:07 PM            

Sun, Mercury, North Node , Vertex
juno and barely made it out of my eight into my ninth

I actually have an intense attraction to a person with a aquarius stellium sun, mercury and mars hitting my 2nd house and this persons saturn and pallas ( sp?) is hitting my 8th house