posted September 15, 2007 08:47 PM            

the other site states that the double whammy is just the same aspect crossing the 2 persons planets - example, A's sun opposite B's moon and B's sun opposite A's moon.

what do you think? which one is right?
or maybe they are both double whammies but the second type is more powerful?

and what is the orb between double whammy aspects? i would think less than 3 degrees but im a newbie so i need your inputs!

thank you!!

posted September 15, 2007 10:48 PM            

Double whammies are hard aspects, never trines or sextiles.

example: Your Saturn is opposed his Venus and
His Saturn is square your Venus.

I give at least a good 6 degree leeway between inner-aspects.

posted September 16, 2007 05:16 AM              

I think, like so many things the question of double whammy may differ from astrologer to astrologer.

I call all aspects between the same planets a Double Whammy, like Moon trine Venus and Venus conjunct Moon for example.

But of course the challenging aspects (conjunction, squrae and opposition) are those you will notice very strongly.

A dw of Venus square Mars and Venus conjunct Mars definitely will lead to a more passionate exchange than a dw of Mars sextile Venus and Mars trine Venus. But I wouldn`t dismiss the last not totally, there is still a "humming" with those aspects.

Regarding the orbs, I tend to give some more leeway with DW`s (about 5 - 6°), but if those dw`s are within 3° orb, then watch out!

posted September 16, 2007 12:18 PM              

Semi-sextiles and quincunxes are problematic--in one example I saw the two Mercurys in a partnership in exact quincunx. They confirmed my diagnoses that they could not communicate because they "talked past" each other. Their thinking was misaligned.

Any doubling of aspect-pairs, including trines, sextiles--even close 5ths, 7ths, or 10ths--will emphasize the planets involved. Such emphasis may "color" the relationship, directing it toward learning, or loving, or creativity, for example.

posted September 16, 2007 12:29 PM              

I saw you mentioned the semisextile, quinkunx, semisquare and sesisquare, and I`d like to know how those aspects play out in a relationship?
ARe they really noteable?
I know that Ebertin considered the semisquare and sesisquare to be almost like a major aspect, and I think NOel Tyl does like them, too.
But I would like to hear your opinion on those, if you want to share.

posted September 17, 2007 12:17 PM              

In any event, the inconjuncts (semi-sextile and quincunx) refer to communication issues--something that might be worked out, but effort would be needed, by BOTH persons.

Quadrates (semi-square and sesquiquadrates) are issues of value--maybe different ideas about what love is, or how to express it. Again--something that might be worked out, but effort would be needed, by BOTH persons.

And that is the rub--all too often, only one person works on relationships!

In my book on aspects (Dynamics of Astrology), I have referred to the inconjuncts as like "dysfunctional Mercury", and the quadrates as similar to "dysfunctional venus."

posted September 18, 2007 09:02 AM              

So, finally i can consider a DW on me and my bf concernig Venus-mars? we have a skuare(0º) and a semiskuare(0)orb.

if i may, i wanted to ask about a specific placemnets ive never saw a interpretation here: suns in semisextile? and sun sesquiquadrate moon(1º) ?

posted September 18, 2007 12:39 PM              

The main reason for this is that people do not listen. Most are looking for excuses to do what they will go ahead and do any way.

(For example the aspects you give sound like a very problematical relationship--maybe one full of "sound and fury.")

However,that is not all bad--relationships are fertile ground for learning what we incarnated to learn--but engaging in relationships like this one can be very painful lessons.

posted September 19, 2007 06:43 AM              

Those aspects i´ve talked about points to a very problematic relationship? Sometimes its problematic but not in the sense that we argue or dont feel for each other - its more the oposite - we have some communication problems ( i see the semisextile here as youve talked hihih) sometimes but we have a very deep and profound relationship. About the sesquiquadrate, i see also diferences about expressing love yup.

I agree with you, everything takes effort from the 2 persons and i have complete confidence that with love,we can overcome all diferences

posted September 19, 2007 10:25 AM              

thank you for the explanation on the minor aspects.