posted September 19, 2007 02:25 PM            

Until I got a hold of this really cool book that laid it all out so simply.

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Libra, like the earth sign Taurus is ruled by Venus. Here in this air sign however, the planet's signature aestetic energy manifests on the astral, metal and social level rather than upon the physical, material one. Whereas Taurus is a fixed feminine sign, therefore acting like a magnet for what are arguably subjective Venusian qualities of beauty, pleasure, unity and even love, on the sensible plane, Libra is a cardinal objective masuline sign who thus projects himself on the intellectual plane as a purveyor of Venusian Principles in the abstract - Love, grace, beauty, art, balance, and harmony as thought forms and ideals. Taurus is the Zodiac's Adonis, Venus-Aphroditie's love interest where as the Libra is a more masulinized version of the goddess under whose namesake he was born as a boy. Superficially, he recalls Cupid, not only in his signature cherubic appearence but in the combines energy of Venus and Mars, the imp's mythical parents, love and war respectively.

Cupid comparison aside, the overriding mythical archetype from which Libra draws his exceptional character is Apollo. He is first and foremost the god of light, the most vivid vivid portrayal of Libra's exclusive cardial-aircombination, the very depiction of etheric power. Metaphorically too, light as in the term enlightment is a symbol of reason. Apollo is the god of reason as well as order. His own Venus-as-a-boy status is well documeted by scholars; A rather late addition to the Greek Penteon, Apollo ursurped much of what were previously Aphroditie's special provinces, including the service of Muses- Music, art, history, dance, astronomy, etc.- as well as previously female deity domains such as healing and prophecy. As a personification of classic indeed platonic Hellenic civilization, the god symbolozes the imposition of patriarchal soceity on a previously matriarchal one.

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Would it come as no surprise that Apollo has always been my fav. Greek god? Lol! The god who enlightened humans and taught them the healing arts... I always had a feeling that Apollo would somehow be linked to the Libra persona.

posted September 19, 2007 06:46 PM            

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Venus in Libra is my single favourite position. It rules!

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Oh there is no doubt it has s powerful magnetic quality (Biased: Sun and Venus in Libra.) But putting that aside, I'll let astro weekly do the talking on the subject:

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Venus in Libra indicates that you very attractive to the opposite sex. Your natural charm, social grace, good looks, social ideals and affectionate nature break down all barriers - you will have many opportunities for romance and marriage. To a very marked degree your general well-being and emotional health depend on sound and meaningful relationships - both social and romantic. You do have an affectionate, sensual and romantic nature, but love and sex are not sufficient incentive to marriage - your partner will also have to demonstrate intellectual, social and companionable qualities. You seek harmony and balance in marriage and social life with a desire to please and be pleased. Generally, you are laid-back, easy-going and hate any form of discord - you will go to great lengths to avoid social and domestic conflict.

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Now offcourse it also depends upon which house it falls under as well. Mines falls under the 2nd house and thus my expression supposably usually comes through social status Lol! Which offcourse is partly true, I am not gonna seny that.

posted September 20, 2007 07:23 PM            

Pluto was in Libra for a few months in 71 and a few months in 72 (alternating back to Virgo) and then in Libra in all of 1973-1982. This basically means that I can't throw a handful of rocks into a crowd without hitting a guy around my age, or younger, who has Pluto conjunct my Sun or Venus.

posted September 23, 2007 03:33 AM              

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It remains for us to speak of the five stars which many have called wandering, and which the Greeks call Planeta ... The fourth star is that of Venus [Aphrodite], Lucifer by name. Some say it is Juno’s [Hera's]. In many tales it is recorded that it is called Hesperus, too. It seems to be the largest of all stars. Some have said it represents the son of Aurora [Eos] and Cephalus, who surpassed many in beauty, so that he even vied with Venus [Aphrodite], and, as Eratosthenes [Greek writer C3rd BC] says, for this reason it is called the star of Venus. It is visible both at dawn and sunset, and so properly has been called both Lucifer [Eosphoros] and Hesperus ...

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Gnostic christians maintained the the "light" Lucifer brought was true enlightenment, which he gave humanity aginst god's will, as Prometheus stole the fire of heaven to bring civilization to mankind against the will of Zeus. The bible's story supported theGnostic wiew. God denied Adam and Eve the fruit of the tree of knowledge, desiring to keep the ignorant;but Lucifer, in the form of a serpant, gave them the "light" of wisdow

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It boggles my mind that not even until the 5th century bc was Apollo associated with the sun at all;he was the god of many thing art,knowlodge or enlightenment, healing, archery, music, prophecy, math but the sun..not so much... that was left to the god Helios.... you got to wonder how that happened.....was it like there were too many gods and they needed to smush the two together so there'd be less...lol
mythology is sooo complicated, got to love it

Lucifers asteroid number is 1930
Apollo is 1862
I've got apollo in Leo and Lucifer in Gemini conjunct mars & mercury
Don't got one darn thing in Libra...sigh

Venus and apollo also have the swan as one of they're sacred animals
Venus and Lucifer were especially known for lust and beauty
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Aphrodite and Apollo/Lucifer have a commen accociation with the serpent or viper
often shown on the left arm and or leg of the love goddess

its pretty darn clear how and why the Good gods of the pagans became the evil demons of the christians...politcs baby, politics
prostrating & demonizing the gods of the pagans made it a far easier to demonstrate they're theory of "I'm right your wrong; I'm good your evil, but if you let us brain wash you we'll make a nice promise of a wonderful after life and the punishment of your enemies..."

posted September 23, 2007 11:37 AM            

Glad to see I am not the only one who sees the political irony of the Roman Empire. Libra's Biblical counterpart in indeed Lucifer; since his name accurately traslates to "The Bringer of Light." Phoebus on the other hand is the darker side of Apollo that I was talking about. I think one can assosiate him as being Scorpio's representitive since Phoebus was more concered with Subjectivity where as Apollo-ian pricipals point to more democratic POVs.

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Venus and Lucifer were especially known for lust and beauty
as well as Aphrodite and Apollo/Lucifer have a commen accociation with the serpent or viper often shown on the left arm and or leg of the love goddess/

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posted September 23, 2007 10:56 PM            

as for Libra gods, well id say Aphrodite thats for sure...

posted September 23, 2007 11:27 PM            

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ANd yet I always thought Apollo/Artemis were Saggis...i mean hey are the archer Gods

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On first sight, Artemis may seem better suited for Sag as opposed to being Goddess of the Moon (ie. Cancer). But if you look again, Artemis was a moody and spiteful biatch (just ask the guy who was a better marksmen than she was ). Her bad side is the epitome of a cancer who is either unevolved or pre-menstrual.

posted September 23, 2007 11:42 PM            

So lets see:

Saggi Sun, Cancer Moon, Leo Asc, Venus in Libra seems to fit in my opinion. Plus they always say one twin is more like the moon sign and the other like a sun. So she could be the Cancer one. Plus 12 Olympians, 12 Zodiac signs...coincidence i think not lol.

I think its like this:

Aries: Ares
Taurus: Zeus/Persephone
Gemini: Hermes
Cancer: Athena (i just get that vibe of her)
Leo: Demeter
Virgo: Hestea
Libra: Aphrodite
Scorpio: Hades/Hera
Sagittarius: Apollo/Artemis
Capricorn: Hephaestus
Aquarius: Poseidon
Pisces: Dionysus

If u think about it then all the opposites would be partners. Making sense in the Greek God polarity of it all. And Aphy/Hephaestus were not compatible (libra/capricorn square...) and he did try to come on to Athena...Hestea is a Virgin goddess thus not having a partner, and Dionysus married someone else...but he is the God of wine, and all these rituals that deal with mind altering stuff...how Piscean...Poseidon had a thing for Demeter, he even created Horses for her. But how much sense would it make that the 3 gods who took the different parts of the world to rule, would form a fixed T-square...and Demeter is the oldest child of Rhea and Cronos (i think). It all makes perfect sense to me...though i feel if it doesnt Heph/Athena could be switched making her Cappie and him Cancer...same for Demeter/Poseidon.

posted September 23, 2007 11:51 PM            

I don;t why though but I always thought of Athena as that libra-type where she's the woman with some masculine qualities (the famous venus/libra switcharoo trick Linda talks of in sunsigns). All while I think she has somthing to do with the justice system but I can't remember or be sure.
But I would like Athena for cancer....she's cool.

Hera is definitely the female scorpio....yikes.

posted September 24, 2007 03:11 AM              

my list would go like this
Aries: Aries, Artemis
Taurus: Eros, Hephaestus
Gemini: Zeus, Hermes, Proteus
Cancer: Demeter, Selene
Leo: Apollo, Hyperion, Uranus, Helios, Nyx
Virgo: Hestia, Hygieia
Libra: Apollo, Aphrodite
Scorpio: Hades, Hera
Sagittarius: Athena, Zeus
Capricorn: Cronos, Cybele, Poseidon
Aquarius: Prometheus
Pisces: Dionysus, Panacea, Persephone,Nyx, Gaia

in the earlier version of the story of persephone she was not kidnapped but made a choice to go to the underworld in order to care for and bring order to the souls there.
seems very Piscean to me...

posted September 24, 2007 06:52 AM              

Aries: Athena
Taurus: The Hyades
Gemini: Castor & Pollux
Cancer: Hermes
Leo: Hercules (the Nemean Lion slain by Hercules)
Virgo: Demeter/Erigone (later said to be the personification of Persephone, placed in the sky so Demeter could always see her)
Libra: Hades' Chariot (Greek astronomers actually viewed the constellation of Libra as the claws of Scorpio. Romans later seperated them into two constellations.)
Scorpio: Ares
Sagittarius: Crotus (son of Pan) and Cheiron the Centaur
Capricorn: Pan
Aquarius: Ganymedes
Pisces: Poseidon/Typhon

Apollo and Artemis were not affiliated with certain signs, but with solar and lunar qualities, respectively. Helios was the "sun god," while Apollo was a "solar god."

posted September 24, 2007 08:00 AM            

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ANd yet I always thought Apollo/Artemis were Saggis...i mean hey are the archer Gods...and Apollo was the one in who's temple the main statement was "First know thyself" so philosophical too. And he also presided over music and studies and all that lovely stuff...and think about his personalities. Total hot head...maybe he had Libra qualities (ok no scorpio there not even an ounce) but i still think he is Sun in Sagg...
as for Libra gods, well id say Aphrodite thats for sure

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Oh those two gods couldn't be anymore different when it came to personalities . Apollo, even though being the twin of Artemis was more concerned with Democratic enligthment, music and and the healing arts, where as Artemis is the Patron goddess of the hunt, and fertility. Her views were soley based upon self-preserverence; Looking out for number 1, where as Apollo was the first amoung the greek gods (minus promethus the titan) who worked beside humans and shared his knowladge with them. Not to mention being the twin of Artemis he kinda looked like her Lol! Basic quality of Libra's tendency of being the balance between the two sexes.

Artemis however is not associated with Cancerian qualities according to "Sextrology." She actually is more the Leo female archetype; The idea of "I always come first before anything else." Selene; goddess of the moon is more the cancer representitive IMO.

Aphroditie's views on love were more raw and more nature assosiated; A basic "go with the flow" view Lol! I say its more assosiated with Taurus. Where as Libra's views on love are more astute.

posted September 29, 2007 05:37 PM            

It seems like the Archangel Uriel seems to fit the bill better IMO. Not to mention Uriel is also the Archangel of Libras.

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According to Corinne Heline: "The beautiful Uriel stands guardian over the activities of the summer. The ripening of grain and the floodtide of blossom are under his guidance. He also supervises the Nature Spirits, those fascinating little sprites who inhabit the elements of earth, air, fire and water, and who lend so much to the beautification of all nature.?

Nature with all its wonders is the ultimate symbol of creation and creativity; it is the purest source of ideas and aesthetic thoughts, and we are an inseparable part of it. Knowing this will help any artist and scholar. Uriel assists us in experiencing beauty through a heightened sense of appreciation, aids us in finding our true talents and stimulates our creativity and inspiration for artistic expression in its many forms.

Uriel is described as being the swiftest in wisdom of all the Archangels. One of his most important tasks is keeping record of all existing knowledge and of each and every event that is yet to come. Considering that, it?s not surprising that he also grants the gift of prophecy. He is the great instructor who teaches us that art and study are for experiencing the joy of liberation that comes as wisdom is gained.

Uriel promotes compassion and peace. Most emphatically, he will dispel darkness with light at times when we are feeling depressed, angry, victimized, or confused. At those times, he helps release anger, unforgiveness, and other negative emotions that may be clouding our vision and judgment. In this respect he helps counsellors, teachers and everyone seeking truths, and supports them in the many twists and turns in their spiritual journey.

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How Libra can you get Lol! Not to mention his name means "The flame of God" and he is usually depicted clad in armor and holding a flaming sword.