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posted September 22, 2007 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The story of Cupid and Psyche:

Cupid and Psyche

A certain king had three daughters. (This seems to be one of the latest fables of the Greek mythology. It has not been found earlier than the close of the second century of the Christian era. It bears marks of the higher religious notions of that time.) The two elder were charming girls, but the beauty of the youngest was so wonderful that language is too poor to express its due praise. The fame of her beauty was so great that strangers from neighboring countries came in crowds to enjoy the sight, and looked on her with amazement, paying her that homage which is due only to Venus herself. In fact, Venus found her altars deserted, while men turned their devotion to this young virgin. As she passed along, the people sang her praises, and strewed her way with chaplets and flowers.

This perversion to a mortal of the homage due only to the immortal powers gave great offence to the real Venus. Shaking her ambrosial locks with indignation, she exclaimed, "Am I then to be eclipsed in my honors by a mortal girl? In vain then did that royal shepherd, whose judgment was approved by Jove himself, give me the palm of beauty over my illustrious rivals, Pallas and June. But she shall not so quietly usurp my honors. I will give her cause to repent of so unlawful a beauty."

Thereupon she calls her winged son Cupid, mischievous enough in his own nature, and rouses and provokes him yet more by her complaints. She points out Psyche to him, and says, "My dear son, punish that contumacious beauty; give thy mother a revenge as sweet as her injuries are great; infuse into the bosom of that haughty girl a passion for some low, mean, unworthy being, so that she may reap a mortification as great as her present exultation and triumph."

Cupid prepared to obey the commands of his mother. There are two fountains in Venus's garden, one of sweet waters, the other of bitter. Cupid filled two amber vases, one from each fountain, and suspending them from the top of his quiver, hastened to the chamber of Psyche, whom he found asleep. He shed a few drops from the bitter fountain over her lips, though the sight of her almost moved him to pity; then touched her side with the point of his arrow. At the touch she awoke, and opened eyes upon Cupid
(himself invisible) which so startled him that in his confusion he wounded himself with his own arrow. Heedless of his wound his whole thought now was to repair the mischief he had done, and he poured the balmy drops of joy over all her silken ringlets.

Psyche, henceforth frowned upon by Venus, derived no benefit from all her charms. True, all eyes were cast eagerly upon her, and every mouth spoke her praises; but neither king, royal youth, nor plebeian presented himself to demand her in marriage. Her two elder sisters of moderate charms had now long been married to two
royal princes; but Psyche, in her lonely apartment, deplored her solitude, sick of that beauty, which, while it procured abundance of flattery, had failed to awaken love.

Her parents, afraid that they had unwittingly incurred the anger of the gods, consulted the oracle of Apollo, and received this answer: "The virgin is destined for the bride of no mortal lover. Her future husband awaits her on the top of the mountain. He is a monster whom neither gods nor men can resist."

This dreadful decree of the oracle filled all the people with dismay, and her parents abandoned themselves to grief. But Psyche said, "Why, my dear parents, do you now lament me? You should rather have grieved when the people showered upon me undeserved honors, and with one voice called me a Venus. I now perceive that I am a victim to that name. I submit. Lead me to that rock to which my unhappy fate has destined me." Accordingly, all things being prepared, the royal maid took her place in the procession, which more resembled a funeral than a nuptial pomp, and with her parents, amid the lamentations of the people, ascended the mountain, on the summit of which they left her alone, and with sorrowful hearts returned home.

While Psyche stood on the ridge of the mountain, panting with fear and with eyes full of tears, the gentle Zephyr raised her from the earth and bore her with an easy motion into a flowery dale. By degrees her mind became composed, and she laid herself down on the grassy bank to sleep. When she awoke, refreshed with sleep, she looked round and beheld nearby a pleasant grove of tall and stately trees. She entered it, and in the midst discovered a fountain, sending forth clear and crystal waters, and hard by, a magnificent palace whose August front impressed the spectator that it was not the work of mortal hands, but the happy retreat of some god. Drawn by admiration and wonder, she approached the building and ventured to enter. Every object she met filled her with pleasure and amazement. Golden pillars supported the vaulted roof, and the walls were enriched with carvings and paintings representing beasts of the chase and rural scenes, adapted to delight the eye of the beholder. Proceeding onward she perceived that besides the apartments of state there were others, filled with all manner of treasures, and beautiful and precious productions of nature and art.

While her eyes were thus occupied, a voice addressed her, though she saw no one, uttering these words: "Sovereign lady, all that you see is yours. We whose voices you hear are your servants, and shall obey all your commands with our utmost care and diligence. Retire therefore to your chamber and repose on your bed of down, and when you see fit repair to the bath. Supper will await you in the adjoining alcove when it pleases you to take your seat there."

Psyche gave ear to the admonitions of her vocal attendants, and after repose and the refreshment of the bath, seated herself in the alcove, where a table immediately presented itself, without any visible aid from waiters or servants, and covered with the greatest delicacies of food and the most nectareous wines. Her ears too were feasted with music from invisible performers; of whom one sang, another played on the lute, and all closed in the
wonderful harmony of a full chorus.

She had not yet seen her destined husband. He came only in the hours of darkness, and fled before the dawn of morning, but his accents were full of love, and inspired a like passion in her. She often begged him to stay and let her behold him, but he would not consent. On the contrary, he charged her to make no attempt to see him, for it was his pleasure, for the best of reasons, to keep concealed. "Why should you wish to behold me?" he said. "Have you any doubt of my love? Have you any wish ungratified? If you saw me, perhaps you would fear me, perhaps adore me, but all I ask of you is to love me. I would rather you would love me as an equal than adore me as a god."

This reasoning somewhat quieted Psyche for a time, and while the novelty lasted she felt quite happy. But at length the thought of her parents, left in ignorance of her fate, and of her sisters, precluded from sharing with her the delights of her situation, preyed on her mind and made her begin to feel her palace as but a splendid prison. When her husband came one night, she told him her distress, and at last drew from him an unwilling consent that her sisters should be brought to see her.

So calling Zephyr, she acquainted him with her husband's commands, and he, promptly obedient, soon brought them across the mountain down to their sister's valley. They embraced her and she returned their caresses. "Come," said Psyche, "enter with me my house and refresh yourselves with whatever your sister has to offer." Then taking their hands she led them into her golden palace, and committed them to the care of her numerous train of attendant voices, to refresh them in her baths and at her table, and to show them all her treasures. The view of these celestial delights caused envy to enter their bosoms, at seeing their young sister possessed of such state and splendor, so much exceeding
their own.

They asked her numberless questions, among others what sort of a person her husband was. Psyche replied that he was a beautiful youth, who generally spent the daytime in hunting upon the mountains. The sisters, not satisfied with this reply, soon made her confess that she had never seen him. Then they proceeded to fill her bosom with dark suspicions. "Call to mind," they said, "the Pythian oracle that declared you destined to marry a direful and tremendous monster. The inhabitants of this valley say that your husband is a terrible and monstrous serpent, who nourishes you for a while with dainties that he may by and by devour you. Take our advice. Provide yourself with a lamp and a sharp knife;
put them in concealment that your husband may not discover them, and when he is sound asleep, slip out of bed bring forth your lamp and see for yourself whether what they say is true or not. If it is, hesitate not to cut off the monster's head, and thereby recover your liberty."

Psyche resisted these persuasions as well as she could, but they did not fail to have their effect on her mind, and when her sisters were gone, their words and her own curiosity were too strong for her to resist. So she prepared her lamp and a sharp knife, and hid them out of sight of her husband. When he had fallen into his first sleep, she silently rose and uncovering her lamp beheld not a hideous monster, but the most beautiful and charming of the gods, with his golden ringlets wandering over his snowy neck and crimson cheek, with two dewy wings on his shoulders, whiter than snow, and with shining feathers like the tender blossoms of spring. As she leaned the lamp over to have a nearer view of his face a drop of burning oil fell on the shoulder of the god, startled with which he opened his eyes and fixed them full upon her; then, without saying one word, he spread his white wings and flew out of the window. Psyche, in vain endeavoring to follow him, fell from the window to the ground. Cupid, beholding her as she lay in the dust, stopped his flight for an instant and said, "O foolish Psyche, is it thus you repay my love? After having disobeyed my mother's commands and made you my wife, will you think me a monster and cut off my head? But go; return to your sisters, whose advice you seem to think preferable to mine. I inflict no other punishment on you than to leave you forever. Love cannot dwell with suspicion." So saying he fled away, leaving poor Psyche prostrate on the ground, filling the place with mournful lamentations.

When she had recovered some degree of composure she looked around her, but the palace and gardens had vanished, and she found herself in the open field not far from the city where her sisters dwelt. She repaired thither and told them the whole story of her misfortunes, at which, pretending to grieve, those spiteful
creatures inwardly rejoiced; "for now," said they, "he will perhaps choose one of us." With this idea, without saying a word of her intentions, each of them rose early the next morning and ascended the mountain, and having reached the top, called upon Zephyr to receive her and bear her to his lord; then leaping up, and not being sustained by Zephyr, fell down the precipice and was dashed to pieces.

Psyche meanwhile wandered day and night, without food or repose, in search of her husband. Casting her eyes on a lofty mountain having on its brow a magnificent temple, she sighed and said to herself, "Perhaps my love, my lord, inhabits there," and directed her steps thither.

She had no sooner entered than she saw heaps of corn, some in loose ears and some in sheaves, with mingled ears of barley. Scattered about lay sickles and rakes, and all the instruments of harvest, without order, as if thrown carelessly out of the weary reapers' hands in the sultry hours of the day.

This unseemly confusion the pious Psyche put an end to, by separating and sorting every thing to its proper place and kind, believing that she ought to neglect none of the gods, but endeavor by her piety to engage them all in her behalf. The holy Ceres, whose temple it was, finding her so religiously employed, thus spoke to her: "O Psyche, truly worthy of our pity, though I cannot shield you from the frowns of Venus, yet I can teach you how best to allay her displeasure. Go then, voluntarily surrender yourself to your lady and sovereign, and try by modesty and submission to win her forgiveness; perhaps her favor will restore you the husband you have lost."

Psyche obeyed the commands of Ceres and took her way to the temple of Venus, endeavoring to fortify her mind and thinking of what she should say and how she should best propitiate the angry goddess, feeling that the issue was doubtful and perhaps fatal.

Venus received her with angry countenance. "Most undutiful and faithless of servants," said she, "do you at last remember that you really have a mistress? Or have you rather come to see your sick husband, yet suffering from the wound given him by his loving wife? You are so ill-favored and disagreeable that the only way you can merit your lover must be by dint of industry and diligence. I will make trial of your housewifery." Then she ordered Psyche to be led to the storehouse of her temple, where was laid up a great quantity of wheat, barley, millet, vetches, beans, and lentils prepared for food for her doves, and said, "Take and separate all these grains, putting all of the same kind in a parcel by themselves, and see that you get it done before evening." Then Venus departed and left her to her task.

But Psyche, in perfect consternation at the enormous work, sat stupid and silent, without moving a finger to the inextricable heap.

While she sat despairing, Cupid stirred up the little ant, a native of the fields, to take compassion on her. The leader of the ant-hill, followed by whole hosts of his six-legged subjects, approached the heap, and with the utmost diligence taking grain by grain, they separated the pile, sorting each kind to its parcel; and when it was all done, they vanished out of sight in a moment.

Venus at the approach of twilight returned from the banquet of the gods, breathing odors and crowned with roses. Seeing the task done she exclaimed, "This is no work of yours wicked one, but his, whom to your own and his misfortune you have enticed." So saying, she threw her a piece of black bread for her supper and went away.

Next morning Venus ordered Psyche to be called, and said to her, "Behold yonder grove which stretches along the margin of the water. There you will find sheep feeding without a shepherd, with golden-shining fleeces on their backs. Go, fetch me a sample of that precious wool gathered from every one of their fleeces.

Psyche obediently went to the river-side, prepared to do her best to execute the command. But the river-god inspired the reeds with harmonious murmurs, which seemed to say, "O maiden, severely tried, tempt not the dangerous flood, nor venture among the formidable rams on the other side, for as long as they are under the influence of the rising sun, they burn with a cruel rage to destroy mortals with their sharp horns or rude teeth. But when the noontide sun has driven the flock to the shade, and the serene spirit of the flood has lulled them to rest, you may then cross in safety, and you will find the woolly gold sticking to the bushes and the trunks of the trees."

Thus the compassionate river-god gave Psyche instructions how to accomplish her task, and by observing his directions she soon returned to Venus with her arms full of the golden fleece; but she received not the approbation of her implacable mistress, who said, "I know very well it is by none of your own doings that you have succeeded in this task, and I am not satisfied yet that you have any capacity to make yourself useful. But I have another task for you. Here, take this box, and go your way to the infernal shades, and give this box to Proserpine, and say, 'My mistress Venus desires you to send her a little of your beauty, for in tending her sick son she has lost come of her own.' Be not too long on your errand, for I must paint myself with it to appear at the circle of the gods and goddesses this evening."

Psyche was now satisfied that her destruction was at hand, being obliged to go with her own feet directly down to Erebus. Wherefore, to make no delay of what was not to be avoided, she goes to the top of a high tower to precipitate herself headlong, thus to descend the shortest way to the shades below. But a voice from the tower said to her, "Why, poor unlucky girl, dost thou design to put an end to thy days in so dreadful a manner? And what cowardice makes thee sink under this last danger, who hast been so miraculously supported in all thy former?" Then the voice told her how by a certain cave she might reach the realms of Pluto, and how to avoid all the dangers of the road, to pass by Cerberus, the three-headed dog, and prevail on Charon, the ferryman, to take her across the black river and bring her back again. But the voice added, "When Proserpine has given you the box, filled with her beauty, of all things this is chiefly to be observed by you, that you never once open or look into the box nor allow your curiosity to pry into the treasure of the beauty of the goddesses.

Psyche encouraged by this advice obeyed it in all things, and taking heed to her ways travelled safely to the kingdom of Pluto. She was admitted to the palace of Proserpine, and without accepting the delicate seat or delicious banquet that was offered her, but contented with coarse bread for her food, she delivered her message from Venus. Presently the box was returned to her, shut and filled with the precious commodity. Then she returned the way she came, and glad was she to come out once more into the light of day.

But having got so far successfully through her dangerous task a longing desire seized her to examine the contents of the box. "What," said she, "shall I, the carrier of this divine beauty, not take the least bit to put on my cheeks to appear to more advantage in the eyes of my beloved husband!:" So she carefully opened the box, but found nothing there of any beauty at all, but an infernal and truly Stygian sleep, which being thus set free from its prison, took possession of her, and she fell down in the midst of the road, a sleepy corpse without sense or motion.

But Cupid being now recovered from his wound, and not able longer to bear the absence of his beloved Psyche, slipping through the smallest crack of the window of his chamber which happened to be left open, flew to the spot where Psyche lay, and gathering up the sleep from her body closed it again in the box, and waked Psyche with a light touch of one of his arrows. "Again," said he, "hast thou almost perished by the same curiosity. But now
perform exactly the task imposed on you by my mother, and I will take care of the rest."

Then Cupid, as swift as lightning penetrating the heights of heaven, presented himself before Jupiter with his supplication. Jupiter lent a favoring ear, and pleaded the cause of the lovers so earnestly with Venus that he won her consent. On this he sent Mercury to bring Psyche up to the heavenly assembly, and when she arrived, handing her a cup of ambrosia, he said, "Drink this, Psyche, and be immortal; nor shall Cupid ever break away from the knot in which he is tied, but these nuptials shall be perpetual."

Thus Psyche became at last united to Cupid, and in due time they had a daughter born to them whose name was Pleasure.


The fable of Cupid and Psyche is usually considered allegorical. The Greek name for a butterfly is Psyche, and the same word means the soul. There is no illustration of the immortality of the soul so striking and beautiful as the butterfly, bursting on brilliant wings from the tomb in which it has lain, after a dull, grovelling caterpillar existence, to flutter in the blaze of day and feed on the most fragrant and delicate productions of the spring. Psyche, then, is the human soul, which is purified by sufferings and misfortunes, and is thus prepared for the enjoyment of true and pure happiness.

In works of art Psyche is represented as a maiden with the wings of a butterfly, alone or with Cupid, in the different situations described in the allegory.

Milton alludes to the story of Cupid and Psyche in the conclusion of his Comus:--

"Celestial Cupid, her famed son, advanced,
Holds his dear Psyche sweet entranced,
After her wandering labors long,
Till free consent the gods among
Make her his eternal bride;
And from her fair unspotted side
Two blissful twins are to be born,
Youth and Joy; so Jove hath sworn."

The allegory of the story of Cupid and Psyche is well presented in the beautiful lines of T. K. Hervey:--

"They wove bright fables in the days of old
When reason borrowed fancy's painted wings;
When truth's clear river flowed o'er sands of gold,
And told in song its high and mystic things!
And such the sweet and solemn tale of her
The pilgrim-heart, to whom a dream was given.
That led her through the world, Love's worshipper,
To seek on earth for him whose home was heaven!

"In the full city, by the haunted fount,
Through the dim grotto's tracery of spars,
'Mid the pine temples, on the moonlit mount,
Where silence sits to listen to the stars;
In the deep glade where dwells the brooding dove,
The painted valley, and the scented air,
She heard far echoes of the voice of Love,
And found his footsteps' traces everywhere.

"But never more they met! Since doubts and fears,
Those phantom-shapes that haunt and blight the earth,
Had come 'twixt her, a child of sin and tears,
And that bright spirit of immortal birth;
Until her pining soul and weeping eyes
Had learned to seek him only in the skies;
Till wings unto the weary heart were given,
And she became Love's angel bride in heaven!"

The story of Cupid and Psyche first appears in the works of
Apuleius, a writer of the second century of our era. It is
therefore of much more recent date than most of the legends of
the Age of Fable. It is this that Keats alludes to in his Ode to

"O latest born and loveliest vision far
Of all Olympus' faded hierarchy!
Fairer than Phoebe's sapphire-regioned star
Or Vesper, amorous glow-worm of the sky;
Fairer than these, though temple thou hast none,
Nor altar heaped with flowers;
Nor virgin-choir to make delicious moan
Upon the midnight hours;
No voice, no lute, no pipe, no incense sweet,
>From chain-swung censer teeming;
No shrine, no grove, no oracle, no heat
Of Pale-mouthed prophet dreaming."

In Moore's Summer Fete, a fancy ball is described, in which one
of the characters personated is Psyche.

" not in dark disguise to-night
Hath our young heroine veiled her light;
For see, she walks the earth, Love's own.
His wedded bride, by holiest vow
Pledged in Olympus, and made known
To mortals by the type which now
Hangs glittering on her snowy brow,
That butterfly, mysterious trinket,
Which means the soul (though few would think it),
And sparkling thus on brow so white,
Tells us we've Psyche here to-night."

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posted September 22, 2007 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are Cupid and Psyche twin souls and/or divine cosmic soulmates? After calculating my Cupido/Psyche midpoints and seeing how and where the midpoints fall in my chart and in the chart of the person I believe to be my Twin Soul it seems to be worth investigating.

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posted September 22, 2007 02:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm confused now... Cupid or Eros? I know their significance is similar, but when it comes to asteroids... we've got 2 different bodies.

However, I personally would embrace this idea, especially since me and the Bull have a double-whammy: conjunction and opposition with Cupido and Psyche.

Thank you, Tigerlily!!

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posted September 26, 2007 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ, I'd love to hear your opinion on the Cupido/Psyche connection.

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posted September 28, 2007 04:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is as relevant as Isis-Osiris.
Only thing is I feel aspects of Eros to Psyche will be more informative than Cupido to Psyche because Eros is physically one of the first asteroids where an Earth probe landed, so it is more wired to human consiousness.

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posted September 28, 2007 04:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, and how does Amor fit in now?

He`s just the Latin name for Eros, so I guess the connections Amore / Psyche is not so bad either.

It`s really confusing with so many names for the same god, but then again maybe every name emphasises a different trait of the God, created by the human perception of the deity.

Eros of course has a close connection to the erotic kind of love, the son of Venus represents. Actually, Eros is one of the oldest deities, or rather a "daimon", whose power over mortals and immortals was immense.

Cupid has maybe a bit more to do with the playful, cheeky kind of love, while Amor may represent love, that is not limited to erotic / sexual attraction, but is love in a more general sense, all-encompassing.

IQ, what do you think? Am I going totally wrong here?


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You are totally correct in your interpretations, DD.

Eros has the most powerful vibe of the 3 names.

Here is an amazing synchronicity of Asteroid Eros :

The Nasa Sapce probe started orbiting Asteroid Eros on February 14th. February 14th is none other than... VALENTINE'S DAY!

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posted September 28, 2007 06:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I had seen that before.

It`s astonishing, isn`t it?

As well as a little personal synchronicity in my life; when I analysed the chart of me and the man I have loved for many years, even after realizing I had to move on without him, I found that we share a Karma-Pholus-dw (both aspects are under 1!) and his Pholus is also exactly conjunct my Moon (and his own SN).
Now, I never really heard of Pholus before (but now that I did, he seems to be anywhere, and almost every synastry-chart of mine has at least one Pholus-Moon-aspect), but I looked it up, and I almost fell from my chair, because the interpretation was so spot on.

This man opened so many doors for me, or rather inside of me; through him I came in contact with my spirituality, dissolved borders and just lept into the unknown, which brought me deep pain and yet I wouldn`t want to miss this experience. We can never be together, I know that, and yet, I have changed in so many ways through him, and though it was painful, I`m feeling such a deep thankfulness towards him. That is Pholus, isn`t it?

And now for the synchronicity: I read Pholus has been discovered in 1992, which was the very year when I realized that I couldn`t go on the way I had before.
The year 1992 was just like a big turning point in my life. That is synchronicity, I guess.


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posted September 28, 2007 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi DD,

I'm glad you wrote that about the asteroids. I've often wondered what would be the best to compare/look for as well.

I also have wondered about Pholus and Eris since they are listed at the bottom of the Astro asteroid box. Since I never heard you, IQ, or any of the other asteroid gurus on here mention them, I never included Pholos or Eris because I thought they must be unimportant. I was just wondering that yesterday again, checked LL this morning and read your post!

I'd love to hear more about your aspects/findings if you don't mind sharing. Any insights on Eris?


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I also was wondering myself what might mean the Pholus/Eris interaction.
Pholus,thankx to IQ i already know.

I looked upon them and we have our Eris conj(0);my Eris conj his MC(1)and sextiles his Valentine/Moon(1).
- His Eris sextile my NN widely.
- his Pholus trine tightely my Mars/Valentine/karma.
- mY Pholus sextiles tight his Moon/Valentine

We have a DW On Pholus/Eris (2 conjunctions)!

Is that good or bad?

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posted September 28, 2007 09:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yup cupid n psyche r relevant as isis-osiris n siva-kaali
i actually have a cupid-psyche conjunction virgo, ith someone at 17 virgo
the sabian reads " an ouija board "

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posted September 28, 2007 09:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding Pholus and Eris (and maybe even Chiron).

They move pretty slowly, so everyone of my generation have Eris in Aries (and Chiron, too) as well as Pholus in Pisces.

I probably would only pay close attention to them, when they were aspecting faster moving objects, especially Moon and ASC.

Regarding Cupid / Psyche:
Wow, Venus de India, what a strong Sabian symbol!

I myself seem to be more an Amor / Psyche-girl, but it is also interesting how often a strong synastric Cupid-ASC, Cupid-Sun or Cupid-NN, Amor-NN or even Cupid-Amor - aspect appears (the NN-aspects and Cupido-ASC being the most frequent).

And it might explain why I had to write this long essay about Amor and Psyche in university, and I had to write about Amor particularly (my friend was supposed to write a similiar essay about Psyche).


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Thanks, DD for your reply!

I was looking up Eris and came across this quote. I do have Eris in my 6th house and Aries as my DC. Does this mean it's inaccurate? IQ? Anyone?

"Eris is below the western horizon when in the 6th house. This seemingly
meaningless note is in fact necessary. There are programs one is liable
to come across that are calculating various systems of houses. To our
best knowledge and on inspection we did not find any house system that
shows the real sky. In the case of Eris this means that Eris should not
be observable when in the 6th house and well below the western horizon.
The result of use of peculiar "house systems" is one can never tell
where the planet in question really is. Since in astrology it is not at
all the same if your Neptune is in the 7th or in the 6th house this
creates additional chaos to the already rich list of bugs. We take that
the real sky is a fairly accurate collection of omens. Since we work
with the real sky we don't need any distortion. We don't want to
misplace planets for the purpose of superstition or cheating.

When Eris is setting, the descendant is most probably Cetus. In some
variations the descendant will be alternatively measured as Taurus or
even Eridanus. Note that Eridanus and Taurus are rather rare ascendants
at the present epoch since they occupy a minor part of the eastern sky.
The animations on the site clearly show this obvious fact. The
descendant cannot be Aries at this epoch since Aries is presently quite
incapable setting in due west much as it is currently impossible for
Aries to rise in due east. What happens to the virtual sky as used by
various astrologers. This sky simply does not exist and probably never
did. It was meant for educational purpose. No astrologer that is
accurately observing the motion of the planets would take the 12 signs
simplification seriously."

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posted October 01, 2007 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't know that Amor was yet another name for Eros & Cupid. Natally, I have 0 conjunctions with all three. Amor on my NN (to the minute), Eros on my SN, & Cupid on my Sun.

The Eros/Psyche myth has always been my favorite of the soul mate myths. A hottie who's into blindfolds? I can get with that. Marrying my brother who is then cut into pieces by another brother? I think I'll pass.

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posted October 01, 2007 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You and I think alike Jane Eros/Psyche has always been my favorite myth, even before I got into astrology.

Cupido conjunct exact DC
Cupido sextile Sun
Cupido trine Sun (exact)would you say might hold some validity DD? in regard to feel good aspects.

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posted June 06, 2011 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump* for Asteroid forum

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