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alchemiest
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posted September 23, 2007 08:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

Below is the chart of one of my friends who may potentially become (once again)... more than a friend. I don't know where things are going yet. But, I was FINALLY able to get his chart. Need a little help deciphering it, if anybody has any input. I researched astro.com, and also some other sites, so I have the basics done, but a lot of the aspects are stumping me a little bit. Any insight is much appreciated. I can do a numerology analysis in return, if anyone would like =)

Planetary positions

PLANET SIGN DEGREE MOTION

Sun Gemini 27°50'24 in house 7 direct

Moon Aries 12°46'56 in house 4 direct

Mercury Gemini 27°11'54 in house 7 retrograde

Venus Gemini 27°28'09 in house 7 direct

Mars Gemini 28°33'54 in house 7 direct

Jupiter Virgo 0°29'55 in house 9 direct

Saturn Aries 23°34'20 in house 4 direct

Uranus Virgo 25°12'12 in house 9 direct

Neptune Scorpio 24°18'17 in house 12 retrograde

Pluto Virgo 20°15'58 in house 9 direct

True Node Aries 15°59'51 in house 4 direct


House positions (Placidus)

Ascendant Sagittarius 6°23'01
2nd House Capricorn 10°12'16
3rd House Aquarius 21°11'22
Imum Coeli Pisces 28°42'04
5th House Aries 27°02'32
6th House Taurus 18°30'09
Descendant Gemini 6°23'01
8th House Cancer 10°12'16
9th House Leo 21°11'22
Medium Coeli Virgo 28°42'04
11th House Libra 27°02'32
12th House Scorpio 18°30'09

Major aspects
Sun Conjunction Mercury 0°38
Sun Conjunction Venus 0°22
Sun Conjunction Mars 0°44
Sun Sextile Jupiter 2°40
Sun Sextile Saturn 4°16
Sun Square Uranus 2°38
Sun Square Pluto 7°34
Moon Trine Ascendant 6°24
Mercury Conjunction Venus 0°16
Mercury Conjunction Mars 1°22
Mercury Sextile Jupiter 3°18
Mercury Sextile Saturn 3°38
Mercury Square Uranus 2°00
Mercury Quincunx Neptune 2°54
Venus Conjunction Mars 1°06
Venus Sextile Jupiter 3°02
Venus Sextile Saturn 3°54
Venus Square Uranus 2°16
Mars Sextile Jupiter 1°56
Mars Sextile Saturn 5°00
Mars Square Uranus 3°22
Jupiter Square Ascendant 5°53
Saturn Quincunx Uranus 1°38
Saturn Quincunx Neptune 0°44
Uranus Sextile Neptune 0°54
Uranus Conjunction Pluto 4°56
Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°02

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alchemiest
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posted September 27, 2007 08:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

...... Anyone?

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libraschoice7
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posted September 27, 2007 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By all the Gemini in the chart I'd have to say very this person is likely to be very social and enjoys talking...Aries moon would make for a zesty and passionate person. Really analytical as well, likes to examine situations usually before jumping in. I am an amateur but I tried

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

I "FEEL" therefor I am

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tuxedo meow
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posted September 27, 2007 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedo meow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me, too, an amateur.. but all that Gemini adds up to a lot of personalities in one person with that Aries Mars like exuberance seems like a lot to handle! Did you ever read that Seuss book-"Ten Apples Up On Top"? These animals balance apples one by one on their heads and then do other things while balancing them like mop and hop and sweep and walk tightropes all at once while jumping rope! Take your vitamins, memorize the encyclopedia, balance 10 apples and hop and mop and look like a lady doing it and be quiet about it. Tuxie

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alchemiest
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posted September 28, 2007 12:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Libraschoice and Tux =)
Yeah, he is a handful... quite a daunting prospect with all that Gemini air and Aries fire. I had posted about him on Soul Unions earlier (but then chickened out and deleted everything I had put on there). At that time, I didn't know his chart, but I had felt even then that behind his rambunctious and outgoing persona was a being of pure, rational intellect.
He's quite the charmer- very well-spoken, very much the ladies' man. A TOTAL romantic (a little too much for my more earthy, sensible Gemini tastes). Quite the off-the-feet-sweeper.
And yet there's something about him that is cautious to the extreme. I feel like no matter how much we spend time together, no matter how much I share with him, there's always this inner core that I'm never going to be able to touch. It's not detachment on his part, I don't think. More like, there are aspects to him that he'd much rather just keep secret from the whole world, including me... no matter how close our relationship is. Not sure how I feel about that.

Ah well. End of vent.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted September 29, 2007 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will respond after this little test. I tried to respond yesterday and my registration wasn't complete yet so I have to do this just to make sure it goes through. I hope it does, here we go. Wish me luck.

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NeptuneLove
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posted September 29, 2007 05:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I hope it does

It did
Welcome GV

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted September 29, 2007 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeeaa!! I got through. OK, here's what I got from this chart without being able to confirm with the client.

The chart suggests that he's a giving person and possibly feels like he has been pushed around by life circumstances.

He's got tremendous energy for communication, correspondence and diversification. I want to say that he can't seem to stop talking or writing, to the public for the public. That energy fuels his need to be important and to be number 1.

Either his mother or an important female in his early home life had a tremendous influence on him, more so than the average mother-child relationship.

The Grand Stellium conjunction of Sun, Venus, Mercury in Gemini suggests a great deal of intellectual idealism. It looks to be "jet fueled" by Mars as part of that conjunction, perhaps causing his communication to be aggressive at times. Because Venus is involved, I want to ask if he writes or speaks about some kind of art or music.

Is this man prominant in some way? This Grand Stellium is squared by the Pluto-Uranus conjunct from the 9th house, intensifying the energies of those planets and pressurizing them to perform at their highest level.

The chart also suggests that he may be involved in teaching (most likely higher education), publishing, religion, research, possibly a public speaker.

The romantic in him is suggested by Mars, which rules his romantic, creative, athletic, teaching 5th house. His Mars is under high developmental tension, constantly active.

That's all I have time for now. I hope it is correct in some respect. Let me know if you can.

Geocosmic Valentine

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alchemiest
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posted September 29, 2007 07:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geocosmic Valentine, you are awesome! Thanks for taking the time to type that reply!
He is very communicative to the public at large. He has an amazing stage presence, so to speak.
He also definitely has a need to have his ego built up in whatever he does, but I don't think he's driven enough to come out on top. At least, from what I have seen so far. But the ego- boy oh boy! If other people / I don't build it up for him with compliments, he has no qualms about building it up himself. A rather strange habit!

From what I understand, his relationship with his mother was not very good at all. One of the things he won't really talk about. I don't think he had a very happy childhood, and perhaps this is one of the reasons it is so tough for him to open up now. There is also quite a significant age difference between us, so I feel a little worried about communication at times. While I feel a definite connection with him, I'm still a little confused as to the exact nature of that connection.

My offer of doing a numerological analysis for any of you wonderful folks who have taken the time to answer is still very much open. I'll just need your full date of birth to get started. =)

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posted October 01, 2007 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Alchemiest,

Thanks for the wonderful compliment. His Moon is peregrine, that means it makes no traditional ptolemaic aspects to any other planet or point in the chart. Maybe it loosely aspects his Ascendant by sextile. And it is in the 4th house of the mother AND it is conjunct the Nodal Axis. So, that Moon is running away with his chart.

The extreme maternal influence I was talking about doesn't always mean it's positive influence, so his chart does suggest that Mother was everything and she pushed him to be everything.

If you send me your birth data, I can check to see what your connections are to him. I prefer your actual birthdata instead of the list of measurements because it takes too much time to draw the chart when I can instantly use the computer, but it's up to you, no pressure.

Geocosmic Valentine

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posted October 01, 2007 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correction.

I meant that his Moon loosely trines his Ascendant, but I once I looked at the measurement again, the trine is too loose, it is just past 6 degrees, so it's true, his Moon is peregrine, but it does Quindecile his MC, once again suggesting that his Mother, in some way, was everything.

Also, don't underestimate his ability to one day go for the gold and actually grab it. He's got Pluto square Sun, which eventually lends itself to tremendous power and prominence. In the first half of life it puts tremendous pressure on him (probably his mother again) but the blanket over his energy is usually removed during the 2nd half of life and he emerges as powerful and resourceful. Think of Prince Charles' life, he has the same measurement.

Geocosmic Valentine

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"Everybody is a star!"

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Thethirdbenjamin
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posted October 01, 2007 02:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow... he's more gemini then i am, i can imagine that the aries moon might give some problems...quick to anger and quick on most things.

I'm thinking he might be direct with the sag rising.

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alchemiest
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posted October 01, 2007 08:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info Geocosmic. Here's my birth data, as you asked (I'll leave it up for a while and then take it down again)


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Thanks again!!


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alchemiest
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posted October 01, 2007 08:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey ThethirdBenjamin- yep, a lot of Gemini in that chart. That Aries Moon... I can't figure it out. He is calm most of the time, but with an undercurrent of restless energy. A definite character =P

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alchemiest
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posted October 01, 2007 08:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Geocosmic, if you don't mind, what is the explanation of the aspects you mention? I don't think I've heard of peregrine and quindecile before. How do you calculate and interpret those?

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posted October 02, 2007 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Alchemiest,

I have your birthdata so you can remove it whenever you feel like it.

A planet is "Peregrine" when it doesn't aspect any other planets by conjunction, sextile, square, trine or opposition. When a planet is peregrine, it can run away with the chart, in the case of his chart, there is so much Moon expression, suggesting maternal energies, career energies.

Also, Moon in Aries doesn't automatically suggest anger, however, the Pluto-Uranus conjunction in Virgo in the 9th house, squares that Grand Stellium (the 4 planet conjunction) in Gemini. Pluto square Mars and Uranus square Mars suggests that he could have a temper and that is also the reason for that feeling of underlying energy.

The Quindecile is an aspect measurement between 2 planets or points in a chart of 165 degrees apart. Although the word "Quindecile" means 15 in Italian, it is the word used for the 165 degree aspect.

That aspect is very strong, about as strong as a square or conjunction. To see the Quindecile between his Moon and his Midheaven, imagine that an opposition to his Moon would be 12 degrees 56' Libra. Then count backwards 15 degrees and you will reach 27 degrees 56' Virgo. That is less than a degree away from his Midheaven (10th house cusp). This is another echo of his mother's influence. It fuels right to his public presentation 10th house, also representing the father prompting me to ask if she took over any of the fathering duties for him as well.

As for your connection with him, I'm going to start with your Venus at 17 degrees Aries. It conjuncts his Moon, his Nodal Axis (which is a soulmate measurement) and it widely conjuncts his Saturn by 6 degrees. That Moon conjunction Venus has got to feel lovely to both of you, your Venus also feeding right into his Nodal Axis is one of the most wonderful aspects to have. The Venus-Saturn conjunction is probably where you're feeling his caution, and yet that is the measurement that is "The Bond" between you two. Saturn controls, disciplines, freezes, patiently holds on, it is like glue the comittment, the rules, the safety, the caution, the boundaries, the teacher. You may find that he suddenly embraces you at times, and may quickly let go (because his Saturn is in Aries). That is what makes it difficult to let go. It is also suggestive of the age difference.

Your Moon at 0 degrees Cancer is conjunct that Grand Stellium of planets of his in Gemini, all 4 of them. So you have a double-whammy of Venus conjunct Moon for both of you. With Moon conjunct Mars, there can be a great deal of sexual chemistry, but also passionate arguing or discussion, both, and adding to that, your Moon conjuncts his Mercury, more discussion, communication, correspondence.

Your Moon is also squared by his Uranus in Virgo, he shocks your emotions from time to time, leaving you feeling all shook up, as if you've been hit by lightening. That's a lot of nervous energy coming at your sensitive Cancer Moon, maybe you can tell him to stop sticking your fingers in the light socket so much , so yes, he can be quite a handful for you. There's more but I have to go to bed so I won't be late for work tomorrow. It is 1:00 AM here. I hope I shed some light for you. Good night.

Geocosmic Valentine

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alchemiest
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posted October 02, 2007 10:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks very much for the explanations of the aspects, and also of the interpretation of the Charts, Geo!

You are right, his mother did take on a lot of 'fathering' responsibilities for him, as his parents divorced when he was quite young.
I also wrangled.... err.... got.. some more info out of him this evening. There may have been some heavy questioning involved, but hey- I'm a girl. I'm allowed to ask heavy questions!

Turns out, he has never forgiven his mother for what he terms as "her inability to be a mother" to him. She passed away a few years ago, but there is a LOT of bitterness still there. His relationship with his father has somewhat patched up, but there is tension there as well. From what I understand, he has had to support himself all through his life without any sort of family love whatsoever, and somewhere inside, he still resents his parents for it. It was horribly depressing, hearing about it. It's a little hard for me to understand, as I myself come from a vastly different background where there has been immense family love and support. My parents are literally my best friends, and there is so much mutual love between us. It's very hard for me to imagine the pain and abandonment issues that he must have from having such distant parents.

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alchemiest
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posted October 02, 2007 10:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS: If you give me your date of birth, I would be very, very happy to do a numerology report for you. I'm not bad at them =)

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posted October 03, 2007 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Alchemiest,

I appreciate your offer of the numberology report, but I'm not in need of one now so I will keep the love instead. But I do want to thank you for your confirmation of the information that I gave you. It helps me to learn and keeps me on my toes. If I can, I'd like to donate my numberology report to someone here on Linda-Land who has a burning desire for a reading. I've been in that position many times in my life where I needed one and couldn't afford it and many people stepped up to the plate for me, that's why I read for free from time to time.

I hope all goes well with you and Mr. Quadruple-Gemini.

Geocosmic Valentine

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alchemiest
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posted October 04, 2007 12:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure, Geocosmic, you can donate to whoever you like =) And thank YOU for giving me such great insight into the chart of Mr. Quadruple Gemini.


The 'soulmate' aspects you mentioned are particularly interesting to me. It was an instantaneous attraction between us. In just a few short weeks, before I was even romantically interested in him, I tried to imagine never seeing him again, and I felt devastated. I hope it works out between us, too!

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gert
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posted October 05, 2007 09:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is wholisticaly a playful and intelectual character who loves to under the social spotlight. He is lightweight, naughty and fun-loving.

He has a tendency though to be real evasive and "all over theplace" and this can dicourage those who want to have a more meaningful relationship with him.Otherwise other people just see him as bubbly, fun, eccentric and a party lover.

Whats your question?

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