posted October 03, 2007 01:30 PM              

some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths:

* Glibness and Superficial Charm

* Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

* Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

* Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

* Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

* Incapacity for Love

* Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

* Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

* Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

Other Related Qualities:

1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
3. Authoritarian
4. Secretive
5. Paranoid
6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
7. Conventional appearance
8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)

posted October 03, 2007 01:43 PM            

Kaira, you don't really believe that most Librans are sociopaths, do you?? Why are you so scared?? Just the fact that you are wondering about it pretty much excludes you from the Definition

posted October 03, 2007 02:02 PM              

Seriously tho, I know someone who fits ALL of that!!!!!!!!!!!!! minus the rape/sexual abuse part - at least I assume(!)

She's a Leo with a Virgo Moon and Mars in Aries - oh damn!!! hahaha

Incidentaly, here birthday (and year) are a few days away from my ex...the one that tore away my soul - how nice

Anyway here are her aspects

Sun opp Jupiter
Sun trine Neptune
Mercury square Mars
Mercury square Uranus
Venus square Neptune
Mars sextile Saturn
Mars opp Uranus
Mars conj Chiron
Saturn suare Pluto

I didn't put moon aspects as i don't know her birth time

posted October 03, 2007 02:03 PM            

Libras in general usually have quite a planned and creative approach to life and the main difference between wishful thinkers and Libras are the fact that they usually end up achieving what they strive for . Heck just look at Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau who set out to get Canada its very own Charter of rights and Freedom and he succeeded even when the odds were terribly against him (he is my fav. politician of all times BTW.)

Emotionless? Not in the least bit. They just try to move emotions out of the way when figuring out a solid solution to a problem without the confines and complications of biased feelings. Usually a sound solution to a problem is more welcomed then a hug (though we will give you one of those if you like as well Lol!)

Libra's charm may come off as superficial to some but to a Libra its just natural possession and part of their quality. To a Libra, a personality and a sense of self is always an ever changing modus oprendi; Crafting a personality isn't by any means superficial but rather an indication of evolution and adaptation. Underneath all our logic and reasonable thinking, we still are gentle sensitive creatures Lol! and like everyone else we don't like getting hurt. Thus we have our own ways to defend ourselves.

posted October 03, 2007 02:08 PM            

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i'm really scared, because myself being a Libra, can relate to some of those, maybe even most. and i know other Libras who are pretty much the same.

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Scared? Why be Scared mon Cheri?

The grandeur of evolution is on your side coupled with advantages most people only dream of Lol! (man talk about an egomaniacal statement; That's my Leo Asc. talking.)

posted October 03, 2007 02:16 PM              

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(man talk about an egomaniacal statement; That's my Leo Asc. talking.)

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posted October 03, 2007 02:20 PM            

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Is it? is it really? or is it your grandiose sense of self?!?!?!

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To Quote Elizabeth Hurley in Bedazzled:

"All men think that they are gods." Lol!

posted October 03, 2007 02:34 PM            

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that and possibly sheer dumb luck in some cases

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posted October 03, 2007 02:40 PM            

Even though it may be so Acoustic, statistically speaking, those who do plan out a goal (no matter how unrealistic it is) may well indeed carry it out all they way; (remember we are taking into account ALL achievements which to some seem impossible; "Ordinary Miracles" as one songstress would put them to be .)

posted October 03, 2007 03:47 PM              

iM A LIBRA AC and my dear bf is a LIbra Sun and we sure doenst fit on that profile

We are both into serious relationships,hate lies and very responsibles.
So it pretty much says that all that the man wrote are simply wrong to Libra people.

I do agree on the Charm thing
but that just comes naturally with our dimples hihihi

My wonderful Libra and cancer AC is just so caring and surprisingly behind of all that appearance of " im so secure about me and the world" ..he just hides within his heat the most sensitive creature i have ever met

posted October 03, 2007 03:54 PM            

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted October 03, 2007 05:03 PM              

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ASC: Virgo

posted October 03, 2007 06:33 PM            

Geghis Khan ran history's biggest empire on nothing more then his will . Just goes to show the power of self-actualization Lol!

Kaira:

Don't sweat it babe . No what you described above are infact some very strong Libra traits and yes in many ways they come off as Sociopathic symptoms. However, some of these traits can apply to a Scorpio personality as well and as much as society doesn't wants to see it, Sociopaths have their own allure and charisma Lol! Just watch "One flew over the cuckoo's nest" or if you like a more similar plotline movie entitled "Girl Interupted." Angelina Jolie's character in that movie is definately a Sociopath Lol! Not to mention thatrole won her an Oscar as best supporting actress.

Warning in advance: The following scene from girl interrupted will ahve content and course language some viewers may find offensive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIi_dG-8GE

posted October 04, 2007 07:09 AM              

Honestly astrology is rather harsh on them.
At worst they are vindictive, unforgiving, and can play "fake nice" then stab you in the back later.

But they wont do it to random people, only to those who have done them wrong. Plus they're into extreme justice so wouldn't touch half the things on that list.

* Shallow Emotions
...Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises,

*Incapacity for Love
*Lack of Empathy

There are a lot of misunderstandings regarding this sign - they're not the villains of the zodiac. but this isn't the place.

posted October 04, 2007 03:15 PM            

See I think most people here look at things at a tad more... "moralistic" view Lol! As twisted as it might sound, morals are a POV where as strength of character isn't. An anti-hero is still a hero in the end even when he/she might not have the qualities we have come to define the philosophical definaiton of a "good guy."

posted October 05, 2007 08:53 AM              

They thought he'd be good with kids??

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Clearly, until astrology can improve, which given the results to date seems unlikely, this is an area from which astrology should be firmly excluded.

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posted October 05, 2007 09:27 AM              

This has got to be a Capricorn thing.

My friend and I have had many a heated debate over our individual approaches to things.

He thinks I'm not practical enough... I think he has little faith.
(Yes, I throw the "Oh ye of little faith" cliche at him all the time)

He hardly ever verbally acknowledges when my way works....... hmmmmm..... wonder why?

When we do some things his way I become frustrated because I feel like I'm sprouting gray hairs waiting for results.

Patience is something he's teaching me well.

I do believe our differences keep it interesting. We're both a little competitive with each other.