posted October 17, 2007 02:07 AM              

Any input is greatly appreciated!

My stats:

Virgo Asc
Virgo Sun
Gemini Moon
Virgo Mercury
Libra venus
Sagitarius Mars

His Stats:

Capricorn Asc
Libra Sun
Aquarius Moon
Scorpio Mercury
Libra Venus
Virgo Mars

posted October 17, 2007 02:51 AM            

Leo female/Cancer male - 6 years and going
Leo female/Cancer male - 60 yrs

Libra female/Virgo male - 30 yrs

Aries female/Pisces male - 26 yrs and going

Taurus female/Gemini male - 25 to 30 years.. I'm not sure exactly - and going..

posted October 17, 2007 10:33 AM              

Thanks WInged Feet for having pulled that one out

WE are also a semi-sextile couple hihihi - and i always red that placement is really awful and do not mantain a couple together.

Im a Virgo and heīs a Libra like your relationship.

And also,in our astro table says that his Venus is conj my AC when in fact, my AC is 0šLibra and his Virgo is 26šVirgo - so im also woundering like you - puzzled

CoralFrequency,

I must extend my appreciation for your post - its the 1st time i see so many couples with lasting relationships, said to be "semi sextile couples"!!HURRAY for the SEMI-SEXTILE hIHIHIH

I hope also that somesay he just makes the proposal and lasts like those

SagSun,
so what really the semisextiles "do"?

posted October 17, 2007 10:40 AM            

Personally, me and my bf have quincunx Suns (Aries and Scorpio) and semi-sextile Moons (Aries and Pisces), but not by degrees.. My Moon is quincunx to his Sun by degrees thought. This can sound very incompatible astrologically, but taking a better look, I have water DC and he has fire DC, I have a stellium in the 8th house and he has Sun and Moon in fire houses. And we also have pairs of planets in compatible signs that helps a bit.. ^_^

posted October 18, 2007 07:02 AM              

did you read his book?

I found his argumentation very convincing. Actually I haven`t found even one exception for his theory. Very amazing.

posted October 18, 2007 07:31 AM              

another confirmation of that theory!

The progressed Sun-Venus conjunction, trine or even opposition seem to be the most constant aspects, that "make" relationships happen. But the Venus-Venus and Venus-Mars conjunction / opposition and trine seem to happen very often, too. Actually I have seen a Venus-Venus- aspect even more often in relationships than a Venus-Mars aspect.
(personally I would add the Venus-ASC, Sun-DSC and Mars-DSC to that list).

posted October 18, 2007 08:23 AM              

The only books about astrology that ive read was the LLīs Sun Signs hihihi

Im gonna see what happens in the progressed...hmmm
in fact, in astro doenst appear progressed sinastry chart - only composite (venus is conj the AC but we are having the saturn clash..but also the venus-kiron cinderella)

posted October 18, 2007 09:10 AM              

you have to make a progressed natal chart for each person and then compare the placements of natal Sun, Venus, Mars, ASC to the progresed planets. And don`t forget to include the progressed planets.

Example:

Person 1:

natal Sun: 17° Aries
progressed Sun: 01° Gemini

natal Venus: 04° Taurus
progressed Venu: 29,5° Gemini

natal Mars: 20° Pisces
progressed Mars: 25,5° Aries

Person 2:

natal Sun: 26° Sagittarius
progressed Sun: 29,5° Capricorn

natal Venus: 06° Capricorn
progressed Venus: 17,5° Aquarius

natal Mars: 05° Sagittarius
progressed Mars: 29° Sagittarius

natal ASC: 07° Sagittarius
progressed ASC: 04° Capricorn

And now you can compare those charts - WEstran only uses an orb of 2°, because his findings led him to the conclusion, that the aspects are only valid and active within this narrow orb; when for example the progressed Sun comes into a trine to the natal Venus and crosses the 2° barrier, then a window of opportunity opens and often a relationship is beginning; when progressed Sun has left the natal Venus more than 2° behind, this window closes again and often the relationship falls apart, if there isn`t enought substance in the natal-natal comparision.

In my example there is a natal - natal love-aspect, a Venus-Venus-trine; it means that it`s an imprinted "bonus", but the progressions help to activate those natal configuration and highlight them.

Here, there are also some progressions at work;
as you can see there is a progressed Sun-Sun-trine within 1,5°. Well, this is not an aspect that "makes" a relationship; it seems only Venus can do that. But a Sun-Sun-trine is very helpful in getting along with each other and all those other interpretations we know for this one.

Person 1`s progressed Venus on 29,5° Gemini had been opposite person 2`s natal Sun, which is a very attracting aspect. But the orb of this one is 3,5° and Venus is moving forwards into CAncer, even further apart from the opposition to the Sun. So this window of opportunity has closed some years ago.

But there`s yet another aspect: person 1`s progressed Venus is opposite person 2`s progressed Mars, and it`s very close to exactness, meaning the aspect is most valid NOW. And Venus-Mars-opposition WEstran has found to be a very passionate one to the point that it breaks apart previous relationships; but it is more often found in passionate affairs with an emphasis on sexual attraction than in stable relationships, where you settle down with each other.
However, this one will not last forever; progressed Venus is moving faster than progressed Mars, so she will eventually move away from Mars, and when she crosses the 2°, this window will also be closed.

to be continued

posted October 18, 2007 09:32 AM              

So, Person 1`s progressed Mars is trine person 2`s natal Sun (and Mercury, DSC-ruler - unfortunately WEstran couldn`t investigate how rulers of angles play out).
This is not a "conventional relationship"-aspect, but highlights the ability to cooperate, to get active together and also some physical attraction.
Person 1`s progressed Mars is on that certain day, I chose for the progressions, exactly conjunct person 2`s progressed Moon.
WEstran didn`t research the Moon, because he had to work with unknown birthtimes some of the times, and furthermore, the progressed Moon moves insanely fast. So, this aspect will be only valid for maybe a few days up to 2 weeks, maybe, whereas the other progressions mostly are valid for the whole year.
However, Mars conjunct Moon may tell something about whipped up emotions I guess.

Person 2`s progressed Venus is exactly sextile Person 1`s natal Sun, which is a nice aspect, but according to the theory, doesn`t make a relationship happen without confirmation of other stronger connections. But it surely is supportive and friendly.

Person 2`s progressed ASC is also exactly trine Person 1`s natal Venus, which is similiar to a Mars-Venus-trine.

So, for the 30th december of 2007 there are those important aspects:

1. his progressed Venus opposite her
progressed Mars

2. her progressed ASC trine his natal Venus

Over the next years, those aspects will dissolve, making place for others.

Like in about 4 years from now:

- his progressed Sun conjuncts her natal DSC
- his progressed Venus opposes her natal
Venus

And some years later his progressed Mars will move into a trine to her natal Venus

If there are so many progressions that follow each other, then that is what WEstran calls a "Perpetual progression".

Usually, a progression forms and then dissolves, and after it`s faded away, the couple has to work with what they have natally. Maybe this is the reason many couples leave that "in love" feeling after about 2 years? It doesn`t mean that the relationship has to fall apart. It depends on what you ahve natally; if the relationship is strong and true, it will survive this. But it will be another phase then.

HOwever, if a couple has several of these progressions following each other, year after year, it mostly means they can stay in love for a while longer than other couples. Or it can mean they somehow can`t away from each other, even though both know it would be wise, if they did.

A couple who has a rather weak natal synastry, with not too many "love-ties" can nevertheless be helplessly in love with each other, if the progressions are there. But when the progressions leave, there will be a sense of loss and disappointment. If they are mature people, they probably can handle it; but if they aren`t very mature or very idealistic and romantic, then the relationship may fall apart at this point, because the romantic feelings can`t be kept up.

DD

posted October 18, 2007 09:36 AM              

dONt know if i have time right now to see all of that but

John:

Natal sun 5 libra
progressed sun 0 csorp

natal moon 17 aqua
progressed moon 20 cap

natal venus 26 Virgo
progressed venus 27 Libra

natal mars 6šsag
progressed mars 24sag

natal ac 29 cancer
progressed ac 18 Leo

Me

natal sun 6 virgo
progressed sun 29 virgo

natal moon 22 taurus
progressed moon 13 aries

natal venus 28 leo
progresed venus 24 leo

natal mars 10 leo
preogressed mars 25 leo

natal ac 18 libra
progressed ac 0 libra

If im nt mistaken, our suns will be conjunt when mine passes to the next sign -Libra isnst it?

And his progressed sun is in trine qith my natal sun?

And my progressed sun at 29 virgo is conjunting his P venus at 27 libra

Also my p.sun is skuaring his ac(bad isnt it)?

His P MOon is trine my Moon

his p mars is trine my p venus

posted October 18, 2007 09:54 AM              

I just looked at your charts.

"If im nt mistaken, our suns will be conjunt when mine passes to the next sign -Libra isnst it?"
Yes, this aspect will be valid in about 3-4 years.

"And his progressed sun is in trine qith my natal sun?"
No, it`s a sextile, but as I said, even though the sextile is not that strong, it is supportive.

"nd my progressed sun at 29 virgo is conjunting his P venus at 27 libra"
No, that would be a semisextile. But a few years ago your progressed Sun was conjunct his Venus.

"Also my p.sun is skuaring his ac(bad isnt it)?"
It`s actually a sextile from 30° Virgo to 28° Cancer.

"his p mars is trine my p venus"
And it`s exact. Jup.

Your pr Sun has also been trine his DSC for the last 2 years.

And you can look forward to some more in the future:

His p Mars will move into a trine to your natal Venus somewhen in the future.

Hmm, I wonder if these rules also apply to the progressed composite?

DD

posted October 18, 2007 09:57 AM              

I haven`t heard of that theory on Sun and Mercury.
Have you found it to be valid?

posted October 18, 2007 10:54 AM              

sO im seeing that the most strong aspect now is the venus-mars trine (not the indicative long lasting :P but instead a atraction factor )

I liked the sun-DSC but unfortunatelly he didnt studied that

A few years ago none of us felt that venus-sun conjunction unfortunatelly :P

Im goin to wait for the moment to see our suns in conjunct - see what happens !

I looked at my progresssed composite and have
-sun/venus conjunction
-venus conj karma/valentine conj
-mars/karma conj
- Pluto/ac conj - this one must be quite dificult hihihi
- Moon trine jup and uranus
- a lot of clashes - kiron with venus/mars/jup/saturn/uranus/ and only a kiron/sun trine - no wonder that we feel so frsustrated at times
-NN trine AC

Some of them are very beautiful but the clashes sure are quite a few

COMICA,
on a thread that Jane started in soul union forum,talked about important progressions/tranists of when we meet a very important person in our life - with us it was right spot on - but ive never heard that one before.