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Quazar
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posted October 21, 2007 08:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Several months ago, I started studying my daughter's chart, and noticed what I'm fairly certain to be a Yod (tell me if I'm wrong on this, anyone...) There's not a whole lot of info about this aspect out there, and mostly what I've found is very cryptic & forboding, such as "indicates major traumatic life event, or accidents". Seeing this in my child's chart is disturbing enough, but the pointer of the yod is in her 10th house (I realize that this house usually rules the father, but I've been the major disciplinary influence in her life, single parent for much of her life), and in near conjunction with my sun. I feel like a complete nutcase posting this, but I've been feeling a sense of dread for quite some time after learning about this aspect, and I'm afraid something terrible is going to happen to my daughter or myself. Any of you seasoned astrologers out there, if you'd care to take a look at our charts, and tell me that I'm being silly and paranoid I would be ever so greatful! I've studied astrology for years (not as in depth as many of you here on this board) but I'm not at all familiar with the yod.

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Quazar
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posted October 21, 2007 09:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing I forget to mention is that transitting Saturn is now in Virgo, and will be crossing the pointer of the yod in October of next year...

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Node
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posted October 21, 2007 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our resident expert on the YOD is "~Zala"

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LeoCat
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posted October 21, 2007 11:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I found my Yod in my natal chart I was depressed for half a day. But I get over things very quickly. Everything I read about the Yod makes it sound like your situation is hopeless and you'll never find your way out of it.

It's pretty much all forgotten and I dont think about it anymore. Whatever happens in your life (good or bad) is gonna happen and we just have to go with the flow.

I'm sure you're reading waaaaay more into your daughter's Yod then is really there, I know I was. Whatever challenges she'll be facing she'll sort them out, I'm sure it has to do more with personality challenges then actual physical acts.

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LeoCat
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posted October 21, 2007 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooooh, my Yod is directed at my 10th house as well. Funny you mentioned the father thing, I have major issues with him. I've had a hard time growing up with him and our relationship has been the most challenging I've had to deal with all my life.

He's extremely controlling, dominating, etc....I've never met anyone else quite like him. He never ASKS me anything, he TELLS me. What to do, what to say, how to think, etc....

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Azalaksh
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posted October 21, 2007 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Missy Node – but I’m far from “expert,” I just possess a couple of the thangs and became the Librarian kinda by default
Quazar and LeoCat, please calm yourselves about the Yods in your lives The Yod is a mathematical and imaginary triangle drawn between 3 celestial gas balls or rocks First, let’s demystify this aspect. It’s called the Finger of God because the people who own it have the potential of doing something special with the energies of the planets involved, in the direction of the houses involved. The apex of my Yod is the Moon in the 8th. Do I worry about death of all sorts?? No. The Yod does not foretell Gloom and Doom.
And Quazar, the 10th house can be either parent….
I note from your daughter’s chart that the base planets are almost 5 degrees apart – that’s a bit wide for a sextile aspect, imho. But the two quincunxes to Mars I believe will be very helpful for her. She will need to learn adjustment and blending of these energies instead of seesawing back and forth between them. You could use the description “base planets” of the Yod, even though I think they’re too far, but think how the combined energies of Jupiter (expansion) and Saturn (contraction) could modify her Mars – what an asset when harnessed!!
I have Mars in Virgo as she does – we put a lot of energy into the details being right. If this energy goes awry, it can be rampant perfectionism applied to all areas of one’s life and sometimes projected onto others. I like her Jupiter and Uranus in Aqua 3rd house – this could be an original thinker, with an expansive view of Life, always thirsting for knowledge, sometimes off the beaten path. I was lucky to have Uranus transiting my 3rd house when I was in high school/college – sometimes it seems that you can learn almost by osmosis, without effort. How lucky she is to have it natally!! Does she exhibit a constant quest for knowing things?? Is she always asking questions?? Does she read a lot, watch Discovery Channel, enjoy museums, etc??
I find the quincunx between Saturn in the 5th in Aries and Mars in Virgo in the 10th interesting – I see what could become a good balance, ie Saturn in a fiery, enthusiastic, outgoing sign and house, and Mars (dignified) in a sign and house that values careful, steady, efficient progress. She also has Sun trine Mars – this could be a very high-energy Taurean
What do you think??

Zala

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Azalaksh
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posted October 21, 2007 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now armed with a cuppa tea, on to Quazar’s chart
My Moon is 26 Pisces too!! We’ve been undergoing the same fractious, horrible, empowering Pluto transit for almost the past two years, but it’s separating and will be at 27 degrees Sag by Halloween, hurrah!!!! Yours is tougher than mine because tPluto was also squaring your Sun – I’d bet how you feel about yourself and relationships and Life has undergone a radical transformation lately, eh?? I’m curious about your natal Neptune bang on your IC – I’d say you have some tremendous potential for Inner spiritual growth, and with tSaturn coming up on your Asc in about 6 degrees (tSaturn just crossed mine last August) to square your nNeptune I’m thinking there could be some revelations in the “Who Am I?” department….. your daughter’s Sun is in your 9th house, I can feel her being your “teacher” in some special way (well, our kids always are )
I’m curious if you’ve done any reading on Chiron – in Aries in the 8th in your case….. The reason I bring that up is that I think you may be feeling the trine of tPluto in your 4th house to your nChiron, and I think this could be a very helpful transit for you if you take advantage of it. I hope you don’t consider the following too harsh – but as food for thought…..
Martin Lass, from “Chiron: Healing Body and Soul,” on Chiron in the 8th:
“Our woundedness is played out primarily in the area of spiritual matters, death, dying, loss, power, sexuality, money or joint finance, and/or mortality/immortality.”
And on Chiron in Aries:
The Wound
A profound lack or loss of self-worth. A core feeling of worthlessness, unworthiness, and even undeservingness of life itself. Self-denial. A feeling of not being wanted, needed, or useful. A feeling of being uncentered, unfocused, and/or lacking solidity.
The Search
The search for Self, for identity.
The Wound’s Expression
Tendencies toward putting others first, seeking to please others, sacrificing self, sabotaging self, giving away power to others, failing to stand up for self, being afraid to take a stand, and/or meandering through life, influenced by the slightest change of atmosphere or energy.
Alternately, as a reaction, tendencies toward futile grandstanding, bravado, aggressive reactions to what we perceive as others’ putdowns, misplaced stoicism, championing the causes of others in order to feel valuable and worthy, and/or stubborn resistance to asking others for help despite our desperate plight.
Escaping the Wound
Tendencies toward living vicariously through others, compulsively needing to help others (altruism overruling all egoism, positive and negative), trying to rescue others who also lack self-worth, retreating from conflict, confrontation, and challenge, and/or avoiding circumstances and situations where taking a stand or expressing an opinion is required.
The Healing Path
The people we try to please, whom we sacrifice ourselves to help, rescue, or live vicariously through, will ever mirror our true worth, ever encourage us to discover, acknowledge, embrace, and ultimately love ourselves and our unique gifts. Simultaneously, the part of us that will never be put down – out spirit – will ultimately fight back against our self-deprecation and against its reflection in the outside world – ie, against others putting us down. When enough is enough, we will stand up and affirm out true worth. We are not designed to be doormats.
Where are we unique, special, and gifted (in forms that we may not be acknowledging)? No person on the planet is superfluous or identical to another. Each of us serves a special and unique purpose/service or we would not be here.
The Gift
The discovery, acknowledgement, embracing, and loving of our special and unique divine design. The realization of the indestructibility of spirit, despite the transience of forms. The acknowledgement of the divine within us. The growth of presence and spiritual solidity; and the sharing of this by our mere presence, true self-love and positive ego. The ability to remain firmly but gently in our own space, despite the opinions and actions of others.”

I'm not going to tell you that your fears of being "silly and paranoid" are inconsequential -- I trust in my Pisces-Moon radar. But I wonder what your fear is based on?? Could you be blowing a little bit of anxiety out of proportion (Jupiter's specialty)?? As parents, we ALL fear for our children's safety But in the end, what can we do except to teach them how to take care of themselves, to love themselves, to cultivate their talents and work on their flaws/faults, and love them enough to let them go so they can do and be what they are meant to do and be?? Worrying about awful things happening to them is natural, but not productive, and I believe that our dwelling on the negative possibilities can even influence negative events to occur.....

Another note: your daughter's (and my son's) generation is a very special group, born with Neptune and Uranus in mutual reception -- I expect great things from them!!

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Quazar
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posted October 21, 2007 04:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, everybody for all your input... And Zala, you've gave me much to ponder upon! This is exactly what I needed to know. As I said before, all of the information I could gather about yods, has been about "impending DOOM". Part of me has worried endlessly about this aspect, while another part of me has reasoned that it's just and aspect, not a death sentence. I guess I needed another voice of reason to side with the reasonable part of myself. I couldn't help but laugh a few times as I read what you wrote, especially the part about the imaginary triangle between 3 gasballs or rocks. I need to keep my head in perspective!
My little girl is definately an original thinker! She loves all things historical, scientific, she has to know about everything. She's been in therapy for a few years now (her dr originally thought she was ADD) and her therapist has called her a "spirited child" and has said on several occasions that my daughter could go on to do extraordinary things if she can learn to harness her energy! Emotionally, over the past few years, she's had a very difficult time, primarily dealing with her peers. She's so different in her way of thinking, that other children call her "weird" and ostracize her quite a bit. (I can remember being 10 years old. It was a horrible time for me also. Unfortunately, some children can be downright cruel.) She's SO sensitive that I tend to be overprotective of her, hence my obsessing over the "yod". She's already had to endure alot of hurt.
And thank you so much for the information on Chiron. Very interesting stuff. I've been dealing with those issues for what feels like has been a LONG time. My own parents in particular have been a challenge to me, spiritually, and it's only been in the past year that I've been able to finally understand that my own self worth isn't dependant upon their approval of me or my life. I think I need to learn more about Chiron.
Oh yes, and the Pisces Moon. I never know when to trust my "intuition". There are times that my "feelings" about things are SO right, and other times, I find that I was only afraid of shadows... LOL.
But again, thanks everyone, for taking the time to listen to me and for helping to alleviate my fear.

Quazar

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LeoCat
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posted October 21, 2007 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her moon is in her 8H. So is my sisters. She has channeling abilities that frighten her and she's always been "sensitive" to this since she was a child. I think moon in 8th can suggest some of these qualities.

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Quazar
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posted October 21, 2007 05:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeoCat, this is a whole other can 'o worms, but my daughter has been telling me (& her therapist) for the past six months that she sees spirits. The therapist suspects that it's merely imaginative play. Me, I've not known what to think. I tell her I believe her (because I know SHE believes she sees things), and when she gets scared, I'll say aloud that if there's anyone there who's trying to show themselves (in spirit form) to please show themselves to ME & not frighten my child. Hmmmm....

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Azalaksh
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posted October 21, 2007 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quazar ~

Here’s something Eleanore posted on “The Spirited Child” –
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001922.html

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She's SO sensitive that I tend to be overprotective of her, hence my obsessing over the "yod". She's already had to endure alot of hurt.
I completely understand and sympathize My 11yo boy has been diagnosed ADHD, and we deal with the same peer-issues as your daughter. It’s so hard to watch them hurting, but protecting them from it will ultimately be their undoing – these sensitive kids need to develop *enough* thickness to their skin to survive the bumps and bruises of Life without offing themselves, and I think allowing them to experience the pain of other childrens’ cruelty without hurrying to remove them from the scene – and while teaching them to cope with it – is crucial to their growth process. 100% unconditional emotional support from you and I is absolutely CRUCIAL to your daughter and my son.

Learning to trust the Pisces Moon radar takes time. I wish I had trusted my intuition about my ex, but I had to learn the hard way….. the key is to disconnect your fears from your perception (which is not easy). Letting your knowledge and experience crowd in and give you Expectations degrades the strength and clarity of your Pisces Moon’s perceptive facility. I don’t want to add to your anxieties, but your daughter having her Moon (or any planet) in Pluto’s house is not an easy row to hoe. I have a Pluto thread here that you might want to browse:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/011863.html
Plutonians either must go to the dark, or the dark will come to them…..

And for your sensitive Cancerian MoonChild, if I were you I would post a thread to Fayte.m over in the Universal Codes forum here at LL and ask her how you can help your daughter understand what she’s seeing. Fayte is psychic and she can probably explain in terms simple enough for your daughter what/who she’s seeing and how to cope with her gift.

Have you ever read up on your North Node in Scorpio (and your daughter’s NN in Virgo)?? There are excerpts here at LL when you’re ready

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LeoCat
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posted October 21, 2007 06:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, my sister sees spirits too. For some reason they're attracted to her. She's got all kinds of things going on in her 8H. I take it you dont believe your daughter when she tells you she sees spirits? As she grows older she'll learn to handle it better, you never get used to it but you start getting used to it, if you know what I mean.

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LeoCat
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posted October 21, 2007 06:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And PLEASE whatever you do don't tell her she's wacko and you don't believe her when she's telling you these things and don't get mad at her because it frustrates or scares you because these are things you don't understand, she'll just withdraw into herself more. I'm sure you already knew that but I felt it had to be said.

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mudmama
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posted October 21, 2007 06:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have two yods both pointing to Saturn in my 7th and have looked at them as challenges to work on in this lifetime. I'm near 40 now and the 7th house issues have vastly improved most recently. Sure it was depressing to look at but once I sat and thought about it I see it's more where one's life challenges seem to reside...some of us may have bigger ones than others but I believe our souls knew this coming in so I'm not about to back down.

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Quazar
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posted October 21, 2007 06:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't say that I don't believe my daughter. I certainly believe in things unseen. I always reassure her that I believe her when she asks, "Mama, you believe me don't you?" I just haven't encouraged it so far. Given her mental health history, I'm sort of sitting back and watching. If she does indeed have a gift (which I'm becoming more inclined to believe as time goes by) I want to be able to guide her correctly. If she's having OTHER issues, I don't want to agitate things by encouraging her, for example, I don't ask her, are you seeing spirits now? Or have you seen anything lately? I don't know if that's how I should be handling it. It's just what I've done up to this point. I am going to follow the suggestion and make a post to fayte.m about her.
I completely agree with you LeoCat. Expressing disbelief, or calling her "wacko" would be damaging.

Quazar

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LeoCat
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posted October 21, 2007 07:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may start to notice "strange" occurrences when you're around her. When I move in with my sister from time to time I notice it but we're quite used to it by now. She has terribly vivid nightmares as well, which your daughter may suffer. It helps her to talk about them and we all support her as we've always respected the paranormal.

Best of luck to you and your child, it won't be easy but it's not as bad as it may seem to you right now. A lot of people go through this, a lot more then you think.

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Azalaksh
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posted October 21, 2007 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw, Quazar -- it's convenient to just post the link to your charts, but it will expire (after 24 hours I think), so anyone who might want to look at them tomorrow will not see them. The more important reason not to post a link like this is that people can see your real name (that you are logged in to astro.com as) and all the other charts you have in your myastro.com dropdown box listing.....

It would be best to save your charts to your hard drive, then upload them to a host and post that link. If you need help with that, please ask.

**edited** Now I'm not so sure I wish to help, what with your (alleged) views and assumptions about "fake psychics".....
But thanks for the wake-up call -- I need to be less trusting.....
Perhaps we can all learn something from this inadvertant exposure.....

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fayte.m
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posted October 21, 2007 08:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quazar
I have replied to you here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002922.html

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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
"I would rather," Truth said; "to walk naked than wear the raiments of Falsehood!"
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fayte.m
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posted October 21, 2007 08:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quazar

I noticed you have run a chart called:
'Fayte.m Aka Fake Psychic ' http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?go.x=9&rs=3&btyp =w2gw&cid=shxfile7E7nqo-u1017262494&go.y=7&nhor=39&go.x=21&go.y=13&go=Go
The birth info however is not mine.
Did you think I am that person?
I do not appreciate headgames.
Please explain.

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
"I would rather," Truth said; "to walk naked than wear the raiments of Falsehood!"
}><}}}(*> <*){{{><{}><}}}(*> <*){{{><{}><}}}(*> <*){{{><{}><}}}(*> <*){{{><{}<}}(*> <3
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yourfriendinspirit
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posted October 21, 2007 09:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zala, fayte.m... I think it's reasonable to assume that if anyone can access this members pull down menu that anyone is able to also add people to this list...???
I see another members name on this list as well...
Wondering, will I be next?

This is a sick joke at best but, also likely that Quazar him/herself did not actually do this.

What do you think?

*Anyone want to test this theory?
I can't find it within myself to mess with another persons account.

I hope I'm correct, would hate to think a new member would be so callous.

*Edited to add:
Registered: May 2005 (oops...not a new member at all, just a less active one.)

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"your friend in spirit"

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NAM
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posted October 21, 2007 09:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WTF?

This is so wrong.

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Azalaksh
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posted October 21, 2007 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your alternate explanation YFIS
I find it despicable if someone used Quazar's astro.com account to set up "fake" info to hurt others and breed mistrust

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted October 21, 2007 10:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto!

So now here we wait....

Quazar? Where are you?


*crossin' my fingers
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fayte.m
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posted October 21, 2007 10:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another stalker or a stalker using another person's account?

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
"I would rather," Truth said; "to walk naked than wear the raiments of Falsehood!"
}><}}}(*> <*){{{><{}><}}}(*> <*){{{><{}><}}}(*> <*){{{><{}><}}}(*> <*){{{><{}<}}(*> <3
~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~
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Azalaksh
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posted October 21, 2007 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good, she caught it and password-protected her account. I wouldn't blame Quazar for feeling violated.....

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