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Topic: Sign vs. Aspect vs. Houses
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aqua inferno unregistered
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posted October 21, 2007 01:45 PM
**editedThere are 3 people. Person A,B and C. A: has Scorpio Sun B: has Strongly aspected Pluto C: has 8th house stellium *assuming these are the only scorpio influence they each have* Who will be more Scorpio-like? and in what order **also A: has Saggi Moon and Uranus heavily aspected with a 1st house stellium IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2007 01:49 PM
A,B,C IP: Logged |
aqua inferno unregistered
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posted October 21, 2007 01:51 PM
Really? or are you just pulling my leg? IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2007 01:55 PM
lol really, the most Scorpio-like will be a Scorp Sun then strongly aspected Pluto and then 8 house; if you asked who would be the strongest in my opinion, I'd say a strongly aspected Pluto person.IP: Logged |
NeptuneLove unregistered
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posted October 21, 2007 01:58 PM
B and CIP: Logged |
SexyScorp103 unregistered
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posted October 21, 2007 02:00 PM
thats a really good question I'd also like to know the answer, my sun is in Scorpio as well as my Pluto, both are exactly conjunct and pluto makes some other strong apects in my chart. I did the Walter - Pullen chart though and the moon is actually the strongest in my chart (I have Cancer asc) at 11.2%, with Pluto and the Sun at a close second (9.3% and 9.0% respectively). Scorpio is the strongest sign in my chart but not by much - virgo is a really close second (virgo moon), it is in the 4th house though which is why i guess the moon rules my chart. IP: Logged |
aqua inferno unregistered
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posted October 21, 2007 02:03 PM
*editjumping the gun I'll wait till more people answer IP: Logged |
NeptuneLove unregistered
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posted October 21, 2007 02:14 PM
for instance...i have Virgo Sun a 2nd house stellium ( Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn ) and the Pluto aspects are : Sun semisquare Pluto Moon opposition Pluto Venus square Pluto Mars conjunct Pluto Jupiter semisextile Pluto Uranus semisextile Pluto Neptune sextile Pluto NN sextile Pluto IC conjunct Pluto but Uranus in Scorpio only The Virgo influence is less felt IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4418 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2007 02:22 PM
I would tend towards A, C, B, but it might take some observation to see if that's true.IP: Logged |
aqua inferno unregistered
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posted October 21, 2007 02:24 PM
Let me add somethingA: has Saggi Moon and Uranus heavily aspected with a 1st house stellium Maybe this makes more sense! Cause I'm trying to figure out the underbelly of astrology...in a clumsy way IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 21, 2007 09:09 PM
I agree with Peri for the reasons listed ABC IP: Logged |
CoralFrequency Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted October 21, 2007 09:47 PM
Probably person A – because they actually have the sign of Scorpio in their chart.The 8th house person – would direct their energies in Scorpionic areas. Maybe they’ll become a forensic scientist or something.. but they won’t necessarily have a Scorpionic character. About a strongly aspected planet – I’m not sure whether that gives the planet more strength. I think unaspected planets, show up as odd balls and draw more attention.. Also, singleton planets (when the planet is the only one - put to work in the area where it stands alone) stand out. A C B When you said - 'A' has a Saggi moon etc.. All that means to me is that A (apart from having a heavier Scorpionic influence than the others) - also has strong Sagittarian influences.. and much of their energy is directed in Arien (1st house) pursuits. IP: Logged |
ErickaF unregistered
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posted October 21, 2007 11:59 PM
i think ACB too.IP: Logged |
aqua inferno unregistered
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posted October 22, 2007 02:51 AM
I don't get it...why so confidant A first?Surely if that were true we'd all exhibit our Sun more strongly than anything else. Gemini will always act like Gemini. Leos will always act like Leos, Libras like Libras etc etc It's like if person 1 & 2 have Cancer Moons where 1: has Moon in 1st conj Mercury while 2: has moon in 12th conj Neptune Would they both still "act" like Cancer Moons? Assuming they have the same Sun & ASC (in diff degrees ). I'm trying to understand why so many people don't act like their Sun, or Moon or w/e I could line up approx 5 close Leos and would find difficulty finding similarities. Some will show more Moon, others more Mars. While my sister is a shy & talkative Leo, my best friend[leo] has Virgo written all over her. My mother acts more like an aries than Libra with her sun conj Mars & SN in Aries. My ex Aries was more Scorpio because of his Moon, my Libra friend screams Sagittarius (ASC)...and only a few Libra traits like indecisive (like my mum). Am I confusing? I suppose I want to know the hows and whys of astrology, I'm just picking it apart right now. IP: Logged |
CoralFrequency Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted October 22, 2007 04:05 AM
I didn't say A - because it was the Sun sign. I said A - because it was the only chart where the sign of Scorpio was actually represented - as a sign. C has planets in the 8th - but those planets are in another sign. B has a strongly aspected Pluto - but none of their planets are actually in Scorpio. If A had a Moon or Mercury (or any other personal planet) in Scorpio instead of the Sun.. I probably would still say A - would be more Scorpio-like in comparison to the other two. But that’s just an astro-guess.. I don’t know the people. quote: I could line up approx 5 close Leos and would find difficulty finding similarities. Some will show more Moon, others more Mars. While my sister is a shy & talkative Leo, my best friend[leo] has Virgo written all over her. My mother acts more like an aries than Libra with her sun conj Mars & SN in Aries. My ex Aries was more Scorpio because of his Moon, my Libra friend screams Sagittarius (ASC)...and only a few Libra traits like indecisive (like my mum). Am I confusing?
I feel the same way, with the people I know. I think I've mentioned it on here before. I don't think there is a general astrological rule for *what* a person will display more. It depends on the individual chart and the individual person. Even twins who have the exact same charts and the same Ascendant - are different people (regardless of similarities). quote: if person 1 & 2 have Cancer Moons where1: has Moon in 1st conj Mercury while 2: has moon in 12th conj Neptune Would they both still "act" like Cancer Moons?
The astrological answer: Yes. Because both of their Moons are still in Cancer.. but the Cancerian energy will be expressed differently when merged with the other planets. One will be like Cancer with a Mercury "flavor" and the other will be like Cancer with Neptune "flavor". The spiritual answer: Not necessarily.. because people are more than their chart.. so they might come across as something else entirely. 9 times out of 10 I do see the Astrological influence with people.. I can pick out some main points in their chart that ring true. But there's always that 10th time.. where I guess the person is beyond this - They are more spiritual or have greater depth and you can't apply astrology as much. IP: Logged |
SagSun unregistered
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posted October 22, 2007 04:11 AM
1. C 2. A 3. BIP: Logged |
yourfriendinspirit unregistered
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posted October 22, 2007 04:25 AM
While intitially I would have guessed like SagSun above, I do clearly agree that 8th house stellium would be "powerful" but, we havn't enough information to conclude that this house is being ruled by Scorpio at all. As in: [what sign is on the cusp?]So I say A, B, then C And then, let's go on one step more to say: I believe A to be even further pronouced with poster having added the Sagittarius moon info... [Sagittarius understands Scorpio energy well and can express it] ------------------ Sendin' Love Your Way, Your Friend In Spirit IP: Logged |
ErickaF unregistered
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posted October 22, 2007 11:48 AM
uuhhh...its kind of common sense it would be A first, I mean it is the sign of Scorpio. i mean hello!;-)IP: Logged |
aqua inferno unregistered
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posted October 22, 2007 12:27 PM
I'm having difficulty getting my question across.lets see I've read some people say eg _____ has Gemini Sun but gives off Capricorn energy. Or _____ is a Virgo but acts like an Aries. What made the Sun "weaker" Or _____ has Leo Mars but is shy due to Cappy asc What made that Mars "weaker" What decides that a sign or aspect or stellium overshadows what? And why? Why does that Cappy Sun act like a Gemini? Why not say "despite strong Gemini, the Cappy sun shows through" Hope that helps! IP: Logged |
aqua inferno unregistered
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posted October 22, 2007 12:32 PM
what the hell are you doing here ErickaF? I thought I put you to shame in SU? IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Registered: Feb 2010
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posted October 22, 2007 12:45 PM
Uh oh Aqua inferno relax relate release...That Mars in Aries is surfacing..LOL!!! gotta ignore the ignorant ppl.. IP: Logged |
aqua inferno unregistered
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posted October 22, 2007 12:49 PM
haha how are you doing babe? hope everything's well IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Registered: Feb 2010
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posted October 22, 2007 12:52 PM
Hey, everything is all good, I am trying to keep the Mars in Aries in control, but somebody is always testing a sista, you know..I just have 0 tolerence for the dumb sh1t and with my Merc in the 1st house and this Mars in Aries my tongue is like a dart..LOL!!! 2000 post for me yayyyyyy!!!!
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aqua inferno unregistered
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posted October 22, 2007 01:07 PM
Congrats!!! We don't suffer fools gladly! Hey didn't know you rock the Mercury energy! - lethal combo that is IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Registered: Feb 2010
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posted October 22, 2007 01:12 PM
I know, it scares me somtimes, but you know alot of ppl love me for my directness I say things that most are to afraid to say..Someone told me wow for a Pisces you sure know how to put things out there they did not know that I have that Merc in the 1st house..My Merc is in Aqua so basically I can talk sh1t all night!!! LOL!!! IP: Logged |