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Topic: Are all Scorpios 'heavy' and overly serious?
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GeminiLover75
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posted October 25, 2007 03:46 AM
 
I'm dealing with one, and something I can't relate to is this very serious, 'heavy' persona that seems like it dwells/obsesses on things and tries to be overtly 'mysterious' or something. I could be reading it all wrong and it could just be a synastry issue that makes me feel like there's a heavy oppressive energy that just doesn't gel with my Sag rising or something. When I'm done talking to them I always feel relieved that I've been able to express a happy persona and that I've had many down to earth people around me who don't b.s or weigh heavy, and suddenly I doubly appreciate (a) the light-hearted and (b) down to earth people in my life.I've met Scorpios who don't really seem to be like this, and I've seen some really seemingly fun and mischievious Scorpios on TV like Simon Le Bon... so does this person have something else going on, like maybe Saturn is involved here, or is it in fact the usual Scorpio personality?? Just wondering because I find it to be a bit odd and disconcerting. (You would think that since I have a Scorpio moon I would relate better to this person). Another thing, this person seems to be really tight with money. This grates against me sooo badly. Blame it on Jupiter being my chart ruler and being a Venus-ruled sign... My own placements:
Taurus sun
Scorpio moon
Sag rising
Venus in Gemini
Mars in Pisces
Mercury in Taurus
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1scorp
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posted October 25, 2007 08:30 AM
I could be wrong.... but it sounds like a heavy negative Saturn influence to me. __________________________________________
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AcousticGod
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posted October 25, 2007 10:03 AM
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Are all Scorpios 'heavy' and overly serious?
No, not at all. IP: Logged |
Virgo/Aries75
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posted October 25, 2007 10:19 AM
I was deeply involved with **1** Scorpio and it was probably the deepest, most intense relationship I've ever had - which was GREAT for me because it matches my need for depth & intensity(Aries moon/Scorpio Asc?).He was genuinely light hearted, sweet, funny, passionate, and a lot of fun. Not heavy or overly serious at all..... UNTIL his feelings got deep for me and he acted like a jerk to push me away. He wanted me to leave him when he was ready for being the jerk that he wasn't, instead of leaving him on my own for the jerk that he was. When I did leave him, he alternated between Angel & Devil. He stalked me. One minute he would offer me the sun, moon, & stars the next he would be verbally abusive and crazy. I can't say he was overtly "mysterious" but he liked to keep secrets unnecessarily and would lie for no reason. He liked to feel like no one really knew him or knew what he was doing, but for some reason it was obvious to me and I saw right through him. Oh yeah, and he was very tight with money. Well, tight where other people are concerned. He would spend plenty of $$ on little trips or something for himself and spared no expense "courting" someone, but outside of that he was a cheap b@stard. He was also cool to spend money on people he didn't know that well to impress them. He's the friendliest, nicest, most generous guy you've ever met - as long as you don't get too close to his heart. If I were a guy I'd want to be his best friend. I know all Scorpios aren't like that and I know the one I was with had issues and was self destructive. Hopefully the ones you've dealt with were healthier.  IP: Logged |
LeoCat
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posted October 25, 2007 10:49 AM
I dated several scorps. They were great, really passionate, looooove it. They seemed to jump into exclusive relationships on the spot. But there was one I dated who had Pluto all over the place. We almost killed each other. It's been several years ago and we're still good friends.IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted October 25, 2007 09:24 PM
Cool, thanks for the responses. I haven't met other Scorpios like this, but then again I don't know any of them *that* well. One of them definitely isn't overly heavy and serious, but she is very obsessive. A trait that I have noticed among quite a few Scorps I've met, though, is negativity - like they'll say something really negative to you like "you look like crap" or something to worry you like "I hope you haven't gotten anything life-threatening". lol. I don't know if this is usual among Scorpios or not. But yeah I think the negative Saturn influence could be right about this person. Would that have an effect on their tightness with money? It's as though they have very little joy relating to money or spending money, but they do have quite an interest in *accumulating* money. Other than that, it's all misery.  Always saying negative things about other people too as though I'm supposed to feel sorry for them because they had to endure putting up with these other people (who IMO are harmless and their only 'crime' was wanting to be happy). More than likely it's that this person had to endure not being able to *control* these other people. It makes me want to beat my head against a brick wall.
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posted October 25, 2007 09:36 PM
yes. yes they are.IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted October 25, 2007 09:49 PM
Well, I'm a Taurus too with a Cancer moon, Venus in Aries, Sag rising and I attract a lot of Scorpios and another currently as a friend. I think it's the water moon, how do you see it? Aren't you moody sometimes?
Scorpios want to fix people too.
They are tight with money always, as they have a lot of fears, this is a water sun trait all the time. Scorpios are good because they can be more than just friends-they know what a serious relationship means right away and are mature for their age. Taurus and Scorpio can get along but Scorpio tends to like passion and for it can be confusing. Scorpio men are good at having female friends and confusing them. For this reason water men are friends only. no matter how intriguing and mysterious. The switch to hold and cold. Passionate and then pull back in order to stay friends. I need full involvement for my fragile ego. I Also need very clear directions as I am not that bright around friends. It's better to be friends and have fights then be courted by a scorpio because if the courting is rejected then he or she gets super cold and even the friendship is bad. It's easier to marry one than reject one. It;s my advice to marry any water sun sign if he proposes because your life will be misreable if you don't say yes. And I mean this honestly. Scorpios like to stay in your life forever, consider their offer of friendship carefully and evaluate what you can do to make him or her happy, think about what you can give. If it's too much then simply leave. I wish I had taken my own advice. I will probably be married to a Scorpio or a water sign soon if I keep hanging around them, they are impossible to pick up and put down, they don't like it! and people think Capricorns are hard to deal with? Caps are sweeties compared to Scorpios. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted October 25, 2007 10:19 PM
Well my mother married a Scorpio and all these years later he hasn't gotten past the fact that she divorced him. Unfortunately I don't have any time for his moaning about it...Hmm as a water (Scorpio) moon I actually don't think I'm that moody! My feelings are naturally deep and my #1 problem is more that I get stressed rather than moody. Any bad mood that I do get into passes very quickly... Strangely enough I don't seem to attract any water signs apart from people with a Pisces or Neptune influence. Actually I think it stresses me out that I feel like this person is trying to find out things about me to the point where I feel like my privacy is being invaded. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted October 25, 2007 10:41 PM
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Actually I think it stresses me out that I feel like this person is trying to find out things about me to the point where I feel like my privacy is being invaded.
He might not be the right guy if you you feel that way.
Being a dry humoured serious Scorpio myself I understand that. I feel it is just being very interested but some folks feel it an invasion.
If I am very interested in a person I want to know everything about them! ------------------
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posted October 26, 2007 01:04 AM
Hmmmmm, I have nothing to add to this topic but with what I've been reading so far it sounds interesting. I have never had a relationship with a Scorpio Sun. I seem to have had a bunch of Leo's and Aquarians and a few saggys.......The idea of a Scorp, Cappy or another Earth/water lover sounds interesting to me.....ID IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted October 26, 2007 02:18 AM
Oh I should clarify it's not a romantic relationship...And the thing I feel my privacy invaded about is the implication that they are psychically eavesdropping on me. Firstly he referred to something that was said in a private conversation where he wasn't present and there's no way he could have known what Mr Gemini and I had said... and since then he's made *implications* that he can hear what goes on. At first I found this creepy, but now I just find it irritating and not a cool thing to do. IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted October 26, 2007 07:10 AM
I know exactly what you mean, tell him to cut it out because he would not like the same done to him.IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted October 26, 2007 09:17 AM
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And the thing I feel my privacy invaded about is the implication that they are psychically eavesdropping on me. Firstly he referred to something that was said in a private conversation where he wasn't present and there's no way he could have known what Mr Gemini and I had said... and since then he's made *implications* that he can hear what goes on. At first I found this creepy, but now I just find it irritating and not a cool thing to do.
Oh!
Well that is very rude and invasive no matter what sign one is! He should know better being a Scorpio!
Yeah that would P!ss me off too. 
Just mentally toast or zap his tendrils next time you sense his telepathic probings.
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aries sun
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posted October 26, 2007 01:05 PM
I think that a lot of scorpios get a bad rep. I think that it has to do with what else is in their chart. I know some scorpios and they are not very passionate like everyone says, but I think that they are pretty loyal. I do think that they like to keep secrets. My moon is in scorpio and I have been told that I am more like my moon then my sun (aries). IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted October 26, 2007 06:38 PM
One of the aspects said of Scorpio is jealousy.
I do not understand the need or purpose of that
aspect at all.
It is too illogical for me.
The other is vengeance.
Why bother?
I prefer to just walk away from jealous people.
And vengeance is a waste of my time. Let Karmic destiny do its job on the nasty ones..it will get them eventually.
I am passionate and serious. If I am not lied to(that includes little white lies)...or emotionally abused, or manipulated, or physically abused, or my confidences betrayed....I will love someone indefinitely, friend or lover or both.
But lie, manipulate or act jealous, and I am out of there! Or they can remain in some cases simply casual friends but nothing more.
Fortunately I have close friends who feel the same. 
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~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
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posted October 26, 2007 10:54 PM
Well, I think that a lot of people wouldn't get jealous if someone didn't make them jealous. I don't think that it just pops up out of no where unless that person is a little crazy. Tell me, if you were in love and that person was gaulking at other people or doing things that were wrong and paying a lot of attention to those things, you wouldn't get jealous? I think that jealousy is a normal emotion. Everyone gets jealous, but I think that if someone is too jealous and get jealous over someone just saying "hi" to someone else then that is when they have a problem. Someone told me that if there was no jealousy in a relationship, then there would be no relationship because that person wouldn't care! And as for the revenge thing, I agree with you that "what goes around comes around"!IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted October 27, 2007 12:20 AM
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Well, I think that a lot of people wouldn't get jealous if someone didn't make them jealous.
If someone "makes" one jealous, it means they cannot trust them in my mind...so why stay with a person who does that kind of head game? quote:
Tell me, if you were in love and that person was gaulking at other people or doing things that were wrong and paying a lot of attention to those things, you wouldn't get jealous?
No. But I also would not stay with a person like that. They obviously have interests elsewhere so I would set them free and get on with my life. I do not want to own anyone or them me. quote:
I think that jealousy is a normal emotion. Everyone gets jealous,
The only thing I get jealous about..or more likely I'd call it envious,not jealousy, is about folks having more money than me and able to pay bills on time. quote:
but I think that if someone is too jealous and get jealous over someone just saying "hi" to someone else then that is when they have a problem.
Definitely a problem! Big insecurity self esteem issues. Or control issues. quote:
Someone told me that if there was no jealousy in a relationship, then there would be no relationship because that person wouldn't care!
I definitely do not agree with that! To me jealousy means the other person does not trust me. Or they want to control me. It does not feel like caring or love to me. And if someone I love wanted to run amuck....I would let them go. If I was still relationship free when they got it out of their system I would let them come back. As far as just looking...go ahead...look all they want in my opinion. If they do more than that they are not ready for a committed relationship or they need someone to be jealous to feel loved and cared for. That kind of intense low self esteem and needing that type of manipulative proof is not the kind of person I would want in my life.
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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
"I would rather," Truth said; "to walk naked than wear the raiments of Falsehood!"
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aries sun
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posted October 27, 2007 12:47 AM
I can see what you are saying. Everyone has their own views and personality. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted October 27, 2007 02:40 AM
Unfortunately I don't know how to zap any telepathic tendrils! lol. And I've had no idea at the time when I was supposedly being spied on - I *can* be sensitive to energies and sense them, but I'm probably not psychically developed enough to pick up everything. It does seem for sure that he did spy on what we had said. The rest could be all implication in order to make himself seem great. If he is doing it, I don't know if it's a spontaneous thing or done on purpose. Either way, he seems to take pleasure in it and I find it really invasive. Not to mention a little obsessive. He also informed me that he knows my future, which I find to be kind of mentally manipulative really. I've ignored him on occasions when he says things like that. I'm sure not all Scorpios are like this and there's most likely something else in his chart. I'm a Scorpio moon myself so I think I understand a lot about the Scorpio feelings. Like someone here mentioned jealousy... yes I get jealous... but it's not like the stereotype would suggest, ie jealousy over absolutely nothing. It's more like if someone goes out of their way to make me jealous and they hit all the right buttons, then more often than not it will work. I'm a Taurus, so that kind of behaviour is pretty much a red flag to a bull. Otherwise I'm placid.  IP: Logged |
LeoCat
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posted October 27, 2007 02:48 AM
My scorpio spied on me too. I called him the secret agent man.IP: Logged |
Astralmuse
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posted October 27, 2007 03:02 AM
GeminiLover, I dunno what is going on in the universe... but I am *also* dealing with a bad-egg Scorpio! Gah! I only have to deal with him for two days each week for classes, but he is pretty vicious so it seems like years while I am shut in a room with him. This guy is a headcase. He makes it his mission to create misery. He researches people in our classes, and then he inserts their personal information into his papers which he reads aloud, looking at the victim to see if they squirm. Seriously. And he tries to imply that he knows all, sees all, controls all. It's très obsessive and très creepy. I love Scorpios. My mum is one. I have Scorpio friends. I have Scorpio in my chart. This guy is nothing like a normal Scorpio. My mum told me that I should be combative, but I told her it's better to project a blank wall. Being ignored hits him more than negative acknowledgement. I think you should project a blank wall also. Don't let him engage you. And don't believe he "knows all" - he is probably just extremely intuitive along with an extreme attention to detail (able to analyze people - like that Psych show about the fake psychic who has photographic memory and the ability to improvise). Good luck! IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted October 27, 2007 03:19 AM
Oh Astralmuse you echoed what my mother said about it! Intuition plus analysing the details of behaviour and so on. A couple of times he's "told" me things about myself that were clearly wrong and I told him so. I try to project a blank wall also but I should probably try harder with that. I *do* believe that some psychic spying has occured at least once but the rest could be fabricated. The guy in your class sounds awful... there is something just incredibly *wrong* with that behaviour. Good luck with that! IP: Logged | |
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