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Topic: Valentine conjunct Pluto--Iqhunk or any others experienced
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29thDegree
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posted October 31, 2007 12:35 PM
  
I have a question what do you think of these aspects...my Valentine conjunct his Pluto and his Psyche conjunct my Pluto. Would these aspects mean more than her Venus sextile his Pluto? This is an aspect with an ex of his. I have heard that planets mean more than asteroids, so I would love to hear thoughts on this.
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venusdeindia
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posted November 01, 2007 01:43 AM
hi 29, interesting name  in one thread IQ said that Val- Plu in synastry could lead to passionate love like Helen of Troy- Menelaus saga, the true love of the Valentine person can trigger strong obsessive reactions in the Pluto person.
i dont know bout psyche though IP: Logged |
Green Fairy
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posted November 01, 2007 07:02 AM
Slightly off-topic:What about Valentine conjuncting the DSC.? IP: Logged |
lovegoblin
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posted November 01, 2007 08:37 AM
I thought IQ said that valentine would have more of the reaction of the synastry...
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Iqhunk
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posted November 02, 2007 06:00 AM
Valentine conjunct his Pluto combined with your Pluto conjunct his Psyche will always have more power than the ex's Pluto sextile Venus.
My hunch is that your Psyche and his Valentine might be linked weakly.
This can create a very powerful Pluto-Pluto linked connection. Look for 40 degree, 51 degree and even 72 degree aspects between Valentine and Psyche if the main aspects do not exist or have very wide orbs.
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lovegoblin
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posted November 02, 2007 09:15 AM
what about psyche inconjuncts to pluto?IP: Logged |
29thDegree
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posted November 02, 2007 03:20 PM
Well Iqhunk I looked up your idea on the Valentine-Psyche connection and they are 38 degrees apart would that still count. If so what would that mean? There are so many aspects that just don't show up on the astro.com. I think we have a double whammy my valentine conjuct his pluto and his valentine is 73 degrees away from my pluto.
There are so many similarities in our synastry, but they don't seem to link up to each other. I have Valentine close to my True Node and so does he to his own but they vary between 35-40 degrees apart. So our Valentines don't link up to each other.
To see what I am talking about here is our data:
) We have moon-node connections (I believe this relationship was started or set off by all of the recent eclipses which were close to my Nodal axis), Sun conjunct Asc., Venus trine Venus, Sun oppose Sun, his True Node conjunct my MC, my moon conjunct his Saturn, etc. So I am trying to grasp the overall picture of our synastry. I think we actually meet the requirements for twinsouls/soul mates??? Could you look to see what you think and explain the most important aspects that you see. What do you think of the his pysche conjunct my pluto? What does that aspect mean? IP: Logged |
29thDegree
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posted November 02, 2007 03:42 PM
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darkdreamer
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posted November 03, 2007 07:03 AM
A friend of mine and the love of her life have that, her Pluto exactly conjuncts his Valentine (and his Pluto closely trines her Venus, and his Venus exactly conjuncts her ASC).
Their love is allconsuming. She has had very bad experiences with men before him, but it seems that his love has helped a lot to heal her wounds and to believe in love again. It`s a mutual thing in their case. But you could say she is absolute passionate (Pluto) about the way he loves her (Valentine).IQ,
how important do you think Septile, novile and quintile are?
I have realized that I share some septiles and biseptiles with someone. I don`t know if that is meaningful at all, but it caught my attention. His Mercury biseptile my Sun (0)
HIs Mercury biseptile my Mercury (0)
His Mercury septile my Moon. (0)
- it means there is a "closed circle" of septile/ biseptile-aspects between my Sun/ Mercury, my Moon and his Mercury (Mercury rules the DSC in both our charts). His Venus triseptile my Pluto (his Pluto is also closely trine my Venus)(1)
His Neptune septile my Venus (1,5)
HIs Pluto septile my Saturn (0)
His Valentine septile my Saturn (0)
DD
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venusdeindia
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posted November 03, 2007 07:34 AM
hi 29, sorry to hear about ur problems.
but i have doubts about this. u say u dont love him ? but u r pregnant and he feels like home.
u know what i think becoz ur relationship goes against ur ideas of love conditioned by society and movies u dont want to accept something soul stirring or dont want to admit it .
can u give the birth data of the two of u ?
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venusdeindia
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posted November 03, 2007 10:10 AM
i analysed ur charts from the birth data above ur draco moon conj his karma
ur draco venus conj his pluto
ur dr plu opp his dr chiron
ur draco chiron opp his draco moon
ur draco. karma opp his draco isis
ur draco. val conj his natal jup, kaali
ur draco. siva conj his draco.sun
ur draco. isi conj his draco. kaali
ur draco kaali conj his draco.ASC
his draco sun conj ur natal jup
fhis pluto conj his eros
ur chiron conj his draco pluto
ur juno conj his draco karma
ur isis conj his draco karma bottomline. u have tons of karma with this guy. u have definitely spent atleast one life as man n wife. and yes from the charts i would call this love. just becoz it goes against puritanical christian beliefs , or ur own expectations of what kind of a man u wanted to be with does not change that it is love.
Paul Newman- Jaonne woodward, Johhny Cash- June Carter, Melanie Griffith- Antonio Banderas. All of thenm are twin souls or soulmates. they all met at a horrible timimg . their love destroyed their lives beyond repair. their marriages broke, but their relationships were also socially wrong. imagine telling ur children ur leaving their father/ mother becoz u love someone else !!! they all had to do that to be with each other. and today if u ask them they will say the hell was worth going thru for heaven they have with each other.
i also think ur feelings for each other are so intense ,the mushy movie idea of love makes them look evil. trust me what u read in hallmark cards or movies is not love. that is romance. if it does not hurt , does not churn ur soul inside out, does not turn ur world upside down, does not burn ur beliefs of life and perception of reality , IT AINT LOVE. period.
so dont be chicken.
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Iqhunk
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posted November 04, 2007 09:59 AM
I use Noviles, Septiles and Quintiles as a last resort aspect test when other aspects are not present. Again, only 2 degree orbs.
I find that all three are very powerful in natal chart analysis but have not tested the synastry effects with these aspects.
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darkdreamer
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posted November 04, 2007 11:19 AM
"find that all three are very powerful in natal chart analysis but have not tested the synastry effects with these aspects."If they are valid in the natals, then I think they are very likely valid in synastry, too. You inspired me to look at these minor aspects in my own natal chart.
And I found I have some "chains"; (with "chain" I mean: planet A is biseptile planet B and both are septile planet C, therefore all those planets are linked): my septile-chains: Sun conjunct Mercury - Moon - Eros conjunct Vertex Venus conjunct Isis conjunct Osiris - Chiron - Lilith Lilith - Siva - Kaali
my quintile chain:
Neptune conjunct NN - Saturn - Psyche
my novile chains:
Moon - Venus - Valentine NEptune conjunct NN - Uranus - Lilith
I`m not sure what that means, but it seems there`s a pattern with those minor aspects.
DD
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posted November 04, 2007 12:20 PM
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posted November 04, 2007 12:37 PM
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sunshine9
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posted July 16, 2011 01:06 AM
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