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Topic: Kindness to animals
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GeminiLover75
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posted November 01, 2007 04:14 AM
 
Thanks! Yeah I like my chart, even the t-squares. The kite is pretty cool and I'm not sure how the mystic rectangle affects me. I like my fifth house placements too.  Ah, thanks for pointing that out about Pluto in 11th. I didn't know that! Interestingly, I'm also into politics and helping the needy. I volunteered to help campaign for the Green party several years ago too. I wanted to be part of a social revolution to erase poverty. I'm taking food to the food bank tomorrow. lol... IP: Logged |
Sarai
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posted November 01, 2007 04:16 AM
Jupiter aspecting Venus would make sense. Venusian energy and Jupiter's expansion would make for a big heart!Geometry lesson:
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/mysticrectangle_wedge.shtml
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html Neat stuff!! IP: Logged |
Sarai
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posted November 01, 2007 04:18 AM
Extending kindness to animals is a generosity thing. You HAVE to be generous in nature to easily express those concerns.IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 01, 2007 04:19 AM
Thanks for the link! Very interesting... I just read that the mystic rectangle can indicate searching for a cause to be involved in. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 01, 2007 04:20 AM
Good point about generosity. So we could be looking at Jupiter, Sagittarius, Leo?Along with Venus... Cancer... Uranus/11th house... water... The list is getting long. But I think we may be getting somewhere. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 01, 2007 04:23 AM
Could you repost your chart in this thread, Sarai? You're an animal lover yourself... let's see what's going on in your chart! IP: Logged |
Sarai
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posted November 01, 2007 04:25 AM
Yes, signs known for those qualities. Anything that indicates "larger than life" might also have some bearing.Jupiter/Sag-heavy charts are likely indications. Sagittarius is also the sign of truth and broadening horizons. IP: Logged |
Sarai
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posted November 01, 2007 04:27 AM
Here it is:  IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 01, 2007 04:28 AM
A friend of mine is a vegan Sag who's really into ethical issues. I'll post his chart when I can. He doesn't seem so much into rescuing or adopting animals, though - it's more about his personal ethics. He also has political ideals similar to mine, eg erasing poverty etc.IP: Logged |
Sarai
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posted November 01, 2007 04:34 AM
Let's collect charts of people who love animals! Hm, we should post Brigitte Bardot and Morrisey here, too.I have Venus-Uranus and Jupiter-Moon contacts. My 5th house has three planets but nothing that really stands out to me. I find it difficult trying to read my own chart for anything.  IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 01, 2007 04:34 AM
At first glance in your chart, I see Cancer sun, and Jupiter aspecting your water (Scorpio) moon. You must have a lot of emotional empathy! How about your moon and Uranus in the 6th house? It's known as the house of work, but it also represents service to others. You have also an Aquarius MC. I have a Leo MC!IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 01, 2007 04:36 AM
You and I both have Venus trine Pluto. Not sure whether that's relevant though... I think I have both BB and Morrissey's charts somewhere...IP: Logged |
Sarai
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posted November 01, 2007 04:40 AM
You and I have a lot of "opposite" happening between our charts! Interesting.Venus trine Pluto indicates emotional intensity. So, among other things it would mean we are both strongly emotional about our beliefs. So, I doubt either of us would be straddling the fence on big issues such as poverty and animals. We know and feel what we believe. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 01, 2007 04:52 AM
Morrissey. I'll have to come back tomorrow to analyse this, but first off I see he has Jupiter conjunct his Scorpio moon, and Mars and Venus in Cancer.  Brigitte Bardot. Sag rising, therefore Jupiter is her chart ruler... she has NO WATER in her chart other than Pluto in Cancer... water singletons supposedly channel a lot of energy into that one planet though. I don't know too much about singletons, unfortunately! She pretty much withdrew from people after she was treated badly, and got pretty bitter from what I can tell. But she still adores animals and puts a lot of time into their cause.  IP: Logged |
Sarai
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posted November 01, 2007 04:52 AM
Gotta run but I'll see you again very soon, GL!  Thanks for posting their charts! IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 01, 2007 04:59 AM
Yes I have to go, too - see you next time! IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
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posted November 01, 2007 05:11 AM
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You know, it's possible that Libra people (whether Sun, Moon, Venus or Rising, etc) are very much into animals since the sign values beauty and compassion. Libras are very much for anything non-vulgar and always try to be diplomatic.
Libra Moon here.
 I was an animal rights activist for a while and a vegan for a year (I'd like to work on being vegan again, but I'm a bit intolerant to a lot of soya in my diet, my son also doesn't like vegetables at all). I still very much want to help the animals, but feel I need to tackle the bigger picture if this is possible. Figure out how to tackle the more prominent, dark powers controlling the world, etc- and therefore help animals too in the process. When I was into activism, I didn't agree with all the verbal violence, spending a lot of the day (whilst on a demo)insulting the police, etc (and though there are some corrupt police, they are individuals too). IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 01, 2007 05:28 AM
Ahh, the Libra influence. I'm just about to log out but I wanted to answer this. I'm not comfortable with abusive or violent tactics either. Right now I feel like all I can do is make a difference on a small scale, and I know how flakey this sounds, but if everyone made a small difference then we would make a big difference overall... Your sun and Mercury are in the fifth, like me... be creative! Your Jupiter aspects your Venus in Cancer. You should use your generosity, big heart, your empathy and your emotional intensity to make a positive difference any way you can. You could do small things, while at the same time researching different groups or organisations that you could become part of, who you are more comfortable with, to help with the bigger picture... IP: Logged |
marsconjunctmercury
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posted November 01, 2007 05:31 AM
Seeing Stars - to$$er!------------------
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ListensToTrees
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posted November 01, 2007 05:35 AM
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Your Jupiter aspects your Venus in Cancer. You should use your generosity, big heart, your empathy and your emotional intensity to make a positive difference any way you can. You could do small things, while at the same time researching different groups or organisations that you could become part of, who you are more comfortable with, to help with the bigger picture...
Good advice.
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ListensToTrees
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posted November 01, 2007 05:41 AM
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Seeing Stars - to$$er!
Well you shouldn't to$$ so much, MCM- don't you know you'll end up with a misshapen claw-like hand?  IP: Logged |
marsconjunctmercury
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posted November 01, 2007 06:44 AM
Hilarious.  ------------------
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Astralmuse
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posted November 01, 2007 10:41 AM
The 6th house rules small or domestic animals. The 12th house rules larger animals, but I've always thought that should be moved to the 9th house (the house of Sagittitarius, half human/half animal). Three of my friends who are vegan activists are Sagittarius Suns, and two have Sag Moons as well. I've noticed in my own small study of friends who are animal activists or vegans and celebs who are known for their concern for animals that their charts have an active 6th and/or 9th house. For example, Brigitte Bardot has Moon conjunct Chiron (the wonded healer) in her 6th house. If the 6th and 9th houses are water-ruled, it adds to the empathy. I've also seen strong Uranus placements in animal activists in the 6th and 9th, which makes sense as it rules enlightenment and rebellion. Alicia Silverstone has Uranus conjunct North Node (life's purpose) and Venus in Scorpio in the 9th house.A true humanitarian takes care of the world, including animals and the environment. ~~~~~~~~ I would be remiss to not add that killing animals at any lifestage - including childhood - is NOT "common." It is an aggressive, violent acting out of severe mental and emotional problems. Robert Hare is the author of the diganostic list used to determine psychopathy, and he calls psychopaths "intraspecies predators." It is very irresponsible to promote the idea that "it's just a stage" or "something we boys did." It is a psychopathic behavior. IP: Logged |
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posted November 01, 2007 12:13 PM
Well in that case there must be alot and I mean alot of psychopathic boys out there growing up right now..  Its funny cause I was born on the same day as Sarai. Im a sun Cancer.. (nurturing) Moon Libra (you guys are making connections with this) and Ascendent in Virgo which is commonly associated with domestic pets especially Cats and Dogs.. So I guess I should be an animal savior?? no. I have never killed domestic pets. I dont relate animals and humans on the same level as you people do. I am more concerned with Humans.. I originally had plans to join the Peace Corps but I want to help in a bigger way.. clearly some of you are oblivious to the problems that lie within the world with our people and our societies in all different respects.. but you would rather save the little dogs and cats that arent vital to our future and in all actuality are simply luxuries for people to have.. gosh I dont feel comfortable knowing that all those scientists (who are probably alot more succesfull then us) that do tests on animals and oh the Hunters who kill animals like second nature are just a bunch od bad people.. gosh I guess this world is just full of psychopaths.. except for all you wonderful people here on an astrology forum of course. I think the general public would have different opinions about your views.. IP: Logged |
Sarai
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posted November 01, 2007 03:07 PM
SeeingStars, I think you're misunderstanding this thread. I, for one, don't judge you on your past actions. No one has the right to. Like I said, a lot of it has to do with conditioning and there are many animal rights activists who aren't saints. It's not about "purity" of background or past actions or anything like that... it's about doing what you can. The past does not dictate the future. Just because something (like eating animals) is imbedded in human history, it does not mean that it's right. Think of slavery and the suffragettes.Animal Rights is not about marking it's position on a "totem pole" of causes, making one greater than the other. Any cause, no matter who the victims are, is important - every single one on an equal platform. Human rights, animal rights, environmental rights, *all* of it goes hand in hand. We are all living on the same planet, breathing the same air, under the same sun. One problem isn't bigger than the other. If you believe in Human Rights that's great! Join the Peace Corps, get involved and do what you can for Human Rights. Go where your heart is. But it's disrespectful to put down the suffering of animals just because they aren't as close to your heart as they are to others. As long as there is life on Earth, there will be suffering, human or animal. To be humane, to be human, is to speak out for those that can't speak for themselves. It would mean spiritual death to come across an act of hate or exploitation on another living being and ignore the injustice. Humanity comes together: some people fight for other humans, some fight for animals, others for the environment. Each cause is interwoven and makes up the big picture. The human spirit, our evolution, as I believe it, is to express compassion to the lives of others, no matter how great or small.
sarai "The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made made for whites or women for men." (Alice Walker) **There's also another quote but I can't seem to find it. Anyway, the gist of it is: Each living being has a glass that holds water. Glasses of all sizes and shapes but each *capable* of holding water. Doesn't each glass, regardless of size or shape, deserve to be filled to the top? IP: Logged |
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