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Alia
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posted November 04, 2007 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi Venus,
you really have a vaste knowledge!!
would u help me find between my chart and the man im interested in, the aspects called antiscion and contrantiscion?
i think they are also called parallel and contraparallel but im not sure they are the same thing...
thank you so much in advance hope u can find some time to help me w this!
here are our charts
his

mine (born CA,italy march 27th 1967 2 50 pm)

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darkdreamer
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posted November 04, 2007 03:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alia,

they are not the same, parallels and antiscion, even though planets which are in antiscion to each other, often are parallel, also.

However, what I saw was (and Venus de India will correct me, if I am wrong, I hope):

His Moon antisc. your Moon
(his Moon antisc. your Mars)
His Mercury antisc. your Jupiter
His Venus widely antisc your ASC
His Jupiter antisc your ASC
HIs Pluto antisc your Uranus
(I used a rather wide orb of about 2°)

Hope this helps.

DD

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Alia
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From: az
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posted November 04, 2007 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks Ddreamer!!!
it does help alot!!
:x

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venusdeindia
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posted November 05, 2007 10:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i use both the traditional and the ones IQ gave. they both work
here is some info

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The final major aspect type is measured by declination, not longitude, and is called the parallel of declination. It is found where two planets in the same celestial hemisphere (on the same side of the celestial equator, which traces a line from 0º Aries to 0º Libra) as each other share the same declination to within a one degree orb. In such circumstance, the effects are varied depending on the planets' mutual relation by longitude:

(1) If the planets are on the same side as each other of an imaginary line through the celestial sphere connecting the tropics (0º Cancer to 0º Capricorn), then in most cases they will also be mutually conjunct, and then the parallel of declination is dwarfed in effect by and becomes assimilated into the conjunction. In rare cases where despite the parallel being in orb they are out of conjunction orb (which will only occur at latitudes close to one of the tropics, where for a given change in longitude declination changes much more gradually than it does at its maximum rate of change over the equator), then the presence of the parallel will draw them together almost as though they were in weak conjunction orb.

(2) If the planets are on the opposite side from each other of the line through the celestial sphere connecting the tropics, then they are situated at each other's solstice points and said to be related by antiscia. This provides the strongest classical condition for considering the presence of a parallel in chart interpretation, and is considered similar in effect to a conjunction. Planets related by antiscia are said to behold each other (the defining classical stamp of qualification for being in aspect, which is also granted to conjunctions, sextiles, squares, trines and oppositions) and to be in signs of equal power.

Another aspect derived from declination is the contraparallel. This occurs when two planets in the opposite celestial hemisphere from each other share an equivalent degree of declination, albeit one northward and the other southward declination to the same value, again within a one degree orb. Again, the effects are slightly variable depending on the planets' mutual relation by longitude:

(1) If they are on opposite sides of the line through the tropics, then in most cases they will also be in mutual opposition aspect, and the contraparallel is dwarfed by this and can be disregarded. Rarely, and only at latitudes close to the opposing tropics, they will then be out of opposition orb but in contraparallel orb, and then the contraparallel may be felt as a very weak opposition.

(2) If the planets are on the same side as each other of the line through the tropics, they will form a contraparallel without any chance of an accompanying opposition by longitude. They will then be said to be related by contra-antiscia. This fulfils the strongest classical condition for considering the presence of a contraparallel in chart interpretation; and is considered similar in effect to an opposition, balancing the factors in mutual contraparallel aspect with some tension. Planets related by contra-antiscia qualify as beholding each other, but are said to be commanding and obeying, with the one in the northern hemisphere commanding, and the one in the southern hemisphere obeying.

Antiscia are distinguished from parallels in being measured by longitude not declination; only some planets in parallel are related by antiscion too; and most but not all planets in close antiscion aspect are parallel. Likewise, only some planets in contra-parallel aspect are related by contra-antiscia; and most but not all planets in close contra-antiscion aspect are contra-parallel. Planets parallel or contra-parallel qualify for antiscial / contra-antiscial relation by whole sign relationship, with no regard for orb. A rare antiscion or contra-antiscion aspect between planets out of parallel or contra-parallel orb, however, will need to be exact to within 1-2º longitude to be felt much, and then will resemble a weak-orbed conjunction or opposition.

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