posted November 16, 2007 02:13 PM            

But I'm flexible.

Just as long as she's brilliant, sexy, stunningly beautiful, funny, creative, original, spirited, inspired, devoted, affectionate to a fault, forgivieng, understanding, sympathetic, sweet, and so on.

posted November 16, 2007 02:20 PM            

don't know if she is here on earth HSC...
Planet Venus maybe..:-)

posted November 16, 2007 03:41 PM            

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I'm looking for a Cancer
born in the Pisces decan.

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*raises hand* That would be me. I have alot of neptune in my chart too, unfortunately I also have too much mars and pluto as well so I kinda get mouthy and fresh.

posted November 16, 2007 06:24 PM              

Romantically I fit the pisces female description.

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All the Pisces girls I have known have been slutty..

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There goes the vibe of this string

posted November 17, 2007 09:18 AM            

A Pisces lady is the ultra femme and quite more often than not, NOT afraid of her sexuality. If an individual takes confidence in one's femininity and sexuality as slutty, then I would really have to say that the individual is very highly insecure with his own sexuality.

"slutty" is a term of judgment.

So what if a women wants to walk around in 8inch heels, mini skirt, halter top and the like, so what if she is flirty, fun and exicted about life, atleast she is secure enough with herself to do so and I admire personal security!

Look out BOYS!!! When you take on the Pisces woman, you take on the everywoman! We have been around for quite a while and likely we are through with this adolsecent behavior of life and are not coming back.

We are not easy to handle and only the most mature, most skilled man is deserving of our company.

We are far from fragile, actually very strong, one does not live this many lifetimes and end up fragile!!!

We can and do take very good care of ourselves, because we know that only we can, really, take care of ourselves!!!

And we will NEVER rely on any man to do so.

You may be courted, men, for company, conversation, etc, however we do not need you to tell us how to fix our cars, how to cook an asian dish, how to clean out an aquarium, which shooting range to go to....

Cause the everywoman alredy knows!!!

posted November 17, 2007 09:49 AM            

I think in my case it has depended on who the guy was. I dated two Aquas who thought I was too independant! (Imagine that!) I also have an Aqua male friend who says I'm the most independant woman he knows...but he deems that as a good thing.

On the other hand, the Aries I was married to thought I was too dependant! I have a small frame, but I work out, hike, etc. He'd ask me to do things like put the hard top back on his Jeep and get upset if I couldn't do it! (Sweetheart of a guy, I tell ya.)

Relationship with a Gemini (my moon is there)...like 2 buddies who are happy to give and take whenever the other needs it...usually we offer before the other has to ask.

My energies also balance well with Virgos. They like to be needed as in being useful. Several of my closest friends are Virgos. It works since they are soooo grounded and I am soooo in the clouds. It's a healthy dependance, if ya know what I mean!

posted November 17, 2007 10:22 AM              

I DO think there is a tendency for men in the life of a pisces woman to feel that they need to protect her. I know my dad was like that when they were younger and I see it ALL the time with my brothers. It drives me a little crazy because I don't think they realize how strong my mom really is! (Okay, I admit I do it a little, too! But sometimes her complete and utter selflessness makes me go bonkers!!!)

I think a lot of that has to do with the dreamy quality pisces women have...sometimes it seems to others that the world is gonna eat this gentle soul alive. But, pisces is a mutable sign, so they can adapt and roll with the changes, too. And what may seem like weakness to some of us more agressive sun signs - compassion, selfless love and kindness - REALLY is their strength. Give them a chance and they will surprise you!

posted November 17, 2007 02:03 PM            

Well, hello there.

posted November 17, 2007 02:59 PM            

You sound passionate, and I agree with much of what you say, but I have to disagree that the Sun in Pisces automatically indicates an old soul. For one thing, the Edgar Cayce readings accord almost no importance to sign placement, and a great deal to planetary aspects. For another thing, the Moon, not the Sun, corresponds to past incarnations, and wisdom that has become innate, instinctual, and unconscious. The Sun is something we strive to embody and express in this life. And, as I see it, the signs are more thematic than descriptive of one's karmic accruements. Piscean themes dominate the Pisces, and they can range from deep mysticism to superficial glamour; from abnormally accute perceptions and intuitions, to abnormally deluded and misguided perceptions and intuitions. A Pisces can be a great healer, or an ineffectual, parasitic individual; a shaman or a junky; a prophet or a New Age sycophant.

Although I do think that the outer planetary energies are complex, and that people who contend with them are being subjected to a test which others may thank their lucky star signs for not having to take, I dont see this as primarily evident in Pisceans. My sister is a Pisces with her sun in the 12th house, and she's about as conventional as you can get. She doesnt struggle with messianic impulses, or issues of self-sacrifice, as far as I can see. I agree with the views of many astrologers, that some people just are not receptive to the outer planetary energies, even when they appear to be strong in the chart. According to accomplished occultist and author Manly Palmer Hall, there have been approximately sixteen incarnations of World Saviors, to walk the earth, and they were all born under the sign of - no, not Pisces, - Capricorn. My own theory is that we spiral around and around the zodiac many times, dealing with the same themes over and over again, at higher levels. I've always felt like an old soul myself, and been told I was one. Now maybe the fact that my South Node is in Pisces and my Moon aspects Neptune suggests something like that, maybe not.

I know a girl with Sun closely conjunct Neptune and Moon in Pisces. She's a trainwreck, who rarely thinks about anything more significant than the latest grind on JAM'N 94.5 She's promiscuous, but that doesnt make her a "****". Her sexual confidence is alarming because it is not an expression of confidence in herself; rather, it is a substitute she uses to compensate for her total lack of confidence in herself, or in anything she has to offer (besides her body). I dont like the word "****", but I think promiscuity is a problem when it is irresponsibly practiced, and the people who usually end up with the label "****" tend to be irresponsibly promiscuous, and not merely promiscuous. If a woman wants to dress in the manner you described, that's fine. But she ought to know that she will attract a certain type of man. One who wants to have sex, yes, but one who probably has no respect for her as a person, and who will probably get rough with her if she ever does say "no" to something. If you can explain how this is not an expression of low self-esteem, be my guest. The thing is, so many women who dress that way, and practice promiscuity, are not nearly as independent as you seem to think, and are not just looking for a good time. They are actually trying to attract a mate!, and they see this as the way to do it, because they dont think they have anything else to offer, and because they are insecure enough to want to attract men who will misuse and abuse them. Whereas, when men are promiscuous, it is far more likely to be an end in itself, and not a means to an end.

What I find most endearing and appealing about the Piscean mystique, is that evolved piscean women are willing to be vulnerable. They know that everybody needs someone, and they, for one, are not afraid to admit to needing someone. They dont see men as objects and accessories, which may be used to make life a little easier or more exciting on occassion. Instead, they merge identities with their partners. That is their genius. That they are willing to lose themselves for the sake of something greater than themselves. And often they do require more protection, because Pisces, let's be honest with ourselves here, is notoriously undiscriminating. Its opposite is Virgo, the realist. Pisceans often chase pipe dreams that begin and end in opium dens. I would wager the percentage of Pisceans among any number of women turning tricks for crack would be exceptional. This is the escapist who makes her prison smaller and smaller the more she tries to escape form it. This is proverbial. Proverbial Pisces. And its why Piscean types so often end up with Virgoan types. They often want and need someone to look after them, to do the dirty work, to pay the bills on time, to jerk their hand when they blissfully start to cross a busy street. Granted, not every Pisces, man or woman, exhibits these shadow qualities, or exhibits them to such a degree, but, many of them do; and the average is much higher for Pisces than for any other sign. If you dont see that, or cant admit it to yourself, you may very well be suffering a classic case of Neptunian denial (is there any other kind?). For my part, I think I've been a Pisces many, many, many times. And I think its helped to make me a better Scorpio.

hsc

posted November 17, 2007 06:59 PM            

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The real ones.

I want me a super-femme, sweet as honey, girly girl.

Are there any real women left in the world?

Ha!

Just kidding.

But, seriously, I need a girly girl.

I guess, because I'm such a girly guy.

Are there any Pisceans in here
without superstrong Uranus, Mars, Sun, and Jupiter?

Seriously, I need a girl who cant beat me in arm wrestling.

Call me an old fashioned pansy-ass.

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Well if you so request... .

Well see, you're under the assumption that a girly girl would in the long term want to be around an ultra-sensitive guy but the truth of the matter is, the girly-girl is looking for someone who can help her find that inner spark of self-expression and passionate gusto.

Remember that partnerships are about give and take and if one person ends up beig totally laid back then the other partner may feel that he/she is the only one dragging the relationship across without any passionate input or gusto.

So sooner or later... things aren't gonna look so good. My solution? Equal interaction. Equal gusto and equal input. Only then can both partners realise that they can indeed help each other out in the gravest of situations. Call it an outward display of strength if you will . Its just simply primal in nature Lol! A partner usually wants an equal contributer; Not a static log.

posted November 17, 2007 07:42 PM            

Why the lecture???

I know that simply falling to earth under the sign of the fish does not imply one has lived many lifetimes, it, to me, is symbolic of an energy, the everywoman, the everyman. We are talking astrologically here, or atleast I thought I posted on the astrology forum.

I have met few Pisces that I actually like, alot superficial, symbolistic of the other side of the fish dual symbol.

I speak of the more spiritual Pisces types and in my respond regarding sluttiness I was addressing another's post.

Any sun sign can be slutty.

I do not judge someone for how they dress and frankly I really do not see the problem with people running around naked if they wish. It is the societally imposed restrictions that lend one to judgment.

And to say that if a woman dresses a certain way that she will attract certain men....how chauvinistic!!!

Do what ever you like, is what I say, just leave me and mine alone and if I do not like someone's behavior then I have the option of not including that individual into my energy space. But I will not judge that individual for the way she/he dresses.

I will agree that Pisces are more prone to escapism than other sun signs....divine discontent as we have spoke of before. The Pisces tends to be connected to "home" and tends to run from this earth school. Again not all Pisces, but certainly the more aware ones.

However I have seen my share of Cancers and Scorpios with addiction problems as well as a Leo or two.

Just as one's sexual preference, one can not imply one is gay or straight from the birth chart nor can one predict one's deamons---only a mere symbolic illustration of potential energies.

Again a thread run amok.....off the subject.

posted November 17, 2007 07:54 PM            

I am a nurse too!!!

And a strange one at that, tho I have worked in the ICU for many years, I certainly practice from a different place.

I do not get hung up on numbers, clinical diagnosis, I nurse quite intuitively.

posted November 18, 2007 02:34 AM              

For the last 25 years or so of her career, my mom has worked in oncology. I can't really say whether my mom nurses "intuitively", because I think that field involves very specific chemo dosages, etc...But I can say that she is VERY patient-oriented. She's always concerned with their comfort and care, not just seeing that they get the prescribed medicine.

posted November 18, 2007 07:07 AM            

Yes certainly, probably a trend.

My field is highly senstive as well, life support via machines and high powered drugs, people dying all of the time, but I do not get so excited or so ego-based as some ICU nurses do and either want to fix everything or get overly clinical, I use intuition and assess the whole matter.

And I really like helping people pass on and their families to cope.

I have thought about going into hospice, almost did, but not ready to leave my 12 hr shifts and 3 day work weeks behind yet!!!

posted November 18, 2007 04:39 PM            

Why would you interpret my admission of sensitivity
as if being sensitive were the same thing as being "a static log",
lacking "that inner spark of self-expression and passionate gusto"?
Your thinking here strikes me as presumptuous and insulting.

Whereas, on the contrary,
it is precisely the sensitive person who possesses just such a
tender receptivity to, and vital connection with, all of life.

And, in response to your initial objection,
in my experience, truly sensitive women
are happiest with men who understand and relate to them,
not tough guys who need things spelled out for them,
and are unable to accord powerful emotions the significance due to them.

posted November 18, 2007 04:42 PM            

Your interpretation of what I wrote is so skewed,
and your tone and judgment of me is so objectionable,
that I find myself utterly disinterested in what you think,
and disinclined to further waste my breath.

posted November 18, 2007 04:57 PM            

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Why would you interpret my admission of sensitivity
as if being sensitive were the same thing as being "a static log",
lacking "that inner spark of self-expression and passionate gusto"?
Your thinking here strikes me as presumptuous and insulting.

Whereas, on the contrary,
it is precisely the sensitive person who possesses just such a
tender receptivity to, and vital connection with, all of life.

And, in response to your initial objection,
in my experience, truly sensitive women
are happiest with men who understand and relate to them,
not tough guys who need things spelled out for them,
and are unable to accord powerful emotions the significance due to them.

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Because HSC too much tenderness can be counterproductive; The same way over the top machoness isn't warrented either. There are times where you just have to snap on the bayonette and move forward with things and reflect upon them later.

What I am telling you is the general outview on partnerships; The general disagreement in relationships arrives when a partner feels that the other one is way to laid back and isn't willing to contribute an equal drive as the other partner. And usually that means that a partner is willing to show that he/she can step up to the plate from time to time. Remember that emotions can be displayed in may other ways other then just sensitivity... Keep that in mind.

posted November 18, 2007 07:09 PM            

Yes, I understood that part of what you were saying, and it is sensible. As a sensitive person, I do like it when others take charge in certain matters, but I also dont mind taking charge myself, and even enjoy it, when I am with a supportive person. The fact that I dont look for a woman to "wear the pants", I think, is evidence enough that I can be assertive when I need to be. Being layed back just means being able to play that supporting role when external factors are overwhelming. There is enough excitement just being alive and in a relationship, dont you think? I responded to you as I did because your advice, although good, is misapplied to me, and it seemed that you were making assumptions, and that you had an agenda of your own, rather than advice suited to my situation.