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heart cakes
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posted November 20, 2007 03:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
like, in terms of aspects? and woud that accurately reflect how each individual experiences the combined energy?

i am sorta new to composites but ours seems very accurate and we've got:

his chiron conjunct our NN (1)
our pluto and saturn conjunct my MC (1)
our neputune conjunct my venus (2)
our sun conjunct my chiron (2)
our jupiter conjunct his asc (2)

these are the close conjunctions i see right off. so would the next step, if i should be comparing composite to natal, be that i look at, for example, his chiron conjunct our NN, which would mean that he would experience healing through our shared soul path? and things like this? and would the person who has the aspect then feel the placement more strongly? or identify with it more?

thanks for any help in understanding this..

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posted November 20, 2007 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi HeartCakes,

Yep...you techically derive the aspects in the same way, but the interps are different.

Here's an example from Cafe Astro...

"Comparing the Composite Chart to Each Individual's Natal Chart
In my notes above, I mention that I look to see if the personal planets in a composite chart conjunct any of the personal planets or points in each individual's natal chart. If you are studying a relationship in-depth, you might also consider taking this concept further. The composite chart is a chart of the relationship itself, and reveals the specific dynamics of that relationship. As such, we can conceivably compare natal charts to the composite chart in order to see how the relationship itself impacts an individual, and vice versa. This individual can be either of the individuals involved in the relationship—but it can also be someone else altogether! For example, when analyzing family dynamics, it can be revealing not only to study the synastry between mother and child and between father and child. We can also compare the child's chart to the composite chart of the mother and father in order to see what kind of impact that relationship has on the child—and the child's impact on the relationship!

In these kinds of analyses, sometimes the symbolism is very literal. For example, parents of a friend of mine had divorced because her father had had an affair with another woman, whom he later married. My friend had birth data for both of her parents and the "other woman". The degree of the other woman's Sun was exactly conjunct the married couple's composite Sun. In this case, the other woman's birthday fell at the midpoint of the couple's birthdays, symbolically "coming between" the couple.

What does the relationship itself mean to an individual involved in that relationship? Overlay the composite chart of that relationship onto the natal chart of the individual to find some answers. An example from my files: my female client explained that her relationship with a man had started off quite passionate, but when it began to "fall apart" (on an intimacy level), and it was headed for a break-up, the man insisted that although he accepted that the relationship should cool off, he felt that they should continue to talk on the phone once in a while. Why? He explained that he felt that when they talked to each other about problems, they often came to some very workable solutions. The composite Sun (which represents the purpose of the relationship) conjuncted his Mercury in his 10th house! To him, the brainstorming (Mercury) between the two amounted to something very usable and worthwhile (tenth house).

Going with this concept, there are many different possibilities. If, for example, the composite Sun of the relationship falls on an individual's IC (fourth house cusp), the relationship may be almost primal to the person. It may easily become habitual. This person is likely to be attached to the relationship in a very basic way, and might have a hard time believing he or she can exist without it. If many of the personal planets and Ascendant in the composite chart fall in an individual's second house, he or she may consider the relationship to be a vehicle through which he or she can find some security—not only financial security, but also a sense of grounded-ness and usefulness is derived from the relationship. If composite Jupiter falls on one individual's Ascendant, he or she might feel the relationship augments his or her personal reputation with others, or it gives him or her a sense of personal well-being that is measurable.

If you would prefer to "cut to the chase" in this particular analysis, you might decide to note only the Composite Sun and where it lands in each individual's chart, suggesting each individual's perception of the purpose of the relationship.

Besides examining the synastry between each individual's natal chart and the composite chart of the couple, we can also compare the overall feel of the composite chart with the natal charts of the individuals involved. If one of the individuals involved has one planet in his eighth house, and that planet is Saturn, for example, and the composite chart reveals a heavily-posited eighth house, the relationship itself may be very attractive to this person at the beginning, but might later feel overwhelming and draining. Sometimes we will see individuals with strong house emphases in their charts that are entirely different than the emphases in the composite charts. This can be exciting, indeed, as the relationship offers new, uncharted avenues of expression for the individuals involved."
http://www.cafeastrology.com/compositechart.html

8th

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AcousticGod
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posted November 20, 2007 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. I've never done that.

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heart cakes
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posted November 20, 2007 07:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks 8th moon, that is awesome! ever more to learn..

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posted November 20, 2007 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Sun is conjunct our composite Venus
My Venus is conjunct our composite Mercury
My Mars is conjunct our composite Neptune
My Pluto is conjunct our composite Uranus
My Moon is conjunct our composite Pluto
My IC is conjunct our composite Moon

I think our composite Sun may be conjunct the galactic center. What degree was that at again?

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heart cakes
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posted November 20, 2007 08:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
those seem like some nice placements do they seem to fit for you? i'm so unclear on whether to accept composites or not. it seems people are so devided on them.. what do you think?


the galactic center is 26 sagittarius.. moving into 27 at some point down the line..

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posted November 20, 2007 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG Missed ya!

No problem, HeartCakes. I think it shows how each person (natal) feels about the relationship (composite).

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posted November 20, 2007 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, we are on the Galactic Center then for whatever that's worth.

What do I think of composites? I don't know. I guess I like them. I think it's intriguing to have an astrological personality given to your relationship.

Hi 8th!

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