posted December 02, 2007 07:17 AM              

but when we refer to the current planets' relationships to themselves (aspects), we talk about how that effects EVERYONE.. nevermind mentioning the transits in relation to personal charts.

so i am wondering.. even if we don't have an aspect to the planets in relation to themselves, how is it we experience the effects? and does the intensity of our experience relate directly to any aspects we may have? meaning, if you have two people and one is experiencing a transit to say saturn opposition venus while the other is not, does that mean the person with the transit is going to feel it more than the other? and i am still sort of confused as to HOW the person without the transit even feels it? not THAT they do, cuz no one lives in a bubble, but HOW?

posted December 02, 2007 10:53 AM            

There's some good excerpts from Liz Greene and Steven Forrest in this string:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015428.html

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even if we don't have an aspect to the planets in relation to themselves, how is it we experience the effects?

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meaning, if you have two people and one is experiencing a transit to say saturn opposition venus while the other is not, does that mean the person with the transit is going to feel it more than the other?

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Another enlightening bit from Steven Forrest, “The Changing Sky” ~

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As you sit reading this book, your body is immersed in a fluxing ocean of energy. You are flooded with invisible radiation of every wavelength. X-rays crash through you from pulsars and neutron stars hundreds of light-years away. Gamma rays rush up from decaying uranium in the earth’s core. Ultraviolet waves flung out from the exploding heart of the Sun cut into your cells. Not to mention the man-made stuff – all the penetrating energy put out by WABC and WHFS and WXYC. Disconcerting, huh? Yes, but only when we think about it. Otherwise, we would never notice any of that energy, except maybe the ultraviolet rays that cause our skin to blister after too many hours on the beach. Why? Because we are not tuned in. Our senses do not respond to those wavelengths. If we want to hear the broadcast, we need a radio.

Astrology works the same way. When a full Moon occurs in a given part of a certain sign – say the last few degrees of Sagittarius – one person might stand on her head while another sleeps through it. Looking at their birthcharts, we quickly see why. That degree of Sagittarius is the first woman’s Ascendant. For the second woman, it doesn’t represent a sensitive area at all – that part of Sagittarius is in an obscure corner of her sixth house and makes no important aspects to anything else on her chart. The first woman, in orther words, is “tuned in” to the last few degrees of Sagittarius while the second woman is not. Astrologically, that marks the difference between drifting through a forgettable weekend and moving to Katmandu under a false identity.

If your radio is tuned to 89.3 FM, that is what you hear. All the other stations still continue their transmission, but they simply pass though you unnoticed. Birthcharts are like defective radios – they are stuck on one station. They pick up every nuance of planetary radiation but only on that particular wavelength. Anything else might as well not exist.

The situation is a bit more complex, really. Each chart is actually affected somewhat by all the wavelengths, but often so slightly that for practical purposes we can ignore the impact. In a roomful of roaring chainsaws, no one is bothered by the buzz of a mosquito.

Someone, for example, with the Sun and three planets in Gemini is enlivened and perhaps shaken when Uranus passes through that sign. He is “on that wavelength.” When Uranus is passing through Capricorn or Cancer, its impact on that particular individual is much more subtle. There is still meaning to it, but in no way does it represent such a critical turning point in his life. Similarly, if a person has a couple of planets in the fourth house, the issues of that house – home, family, deep inner work – are important ones to her. Those fourth house planets represent a potential waiting to be triggered. When a planet moves through that part of her birthchart, significant steps are taken and realizations arise. The period is one of lasting importance to her. If, on the other hand, the same planet passes through an empty fourth house on some other person’s chart, very little occurs. There is far less potential there to be triggered. The period still has meaning and can be understrood astrologically. But our first step in understanding it lies in grasping its limited importance in the person’s overall developmental pattern.

If the birthchart itself is tuned to a particular issue, the impact of planetary motions triggering that issue is magnified dramatically.

There is another dimension in our ability to “tune in” astrological forces, one that is often overlooked in traditional texts. Say a woman is born with a chart in which the influence of Saturn is predominant. It lies in Capricorn, conjunct her Ascendant and opposed to her Sun. Saturn, in other words, is always with her, touching every corner of her life. She may respond positively, in a brave and self-regenerative way, learning the lessons of realism, self-sufficiency, and patience. Or she may take the low road, becoming cynical and depressed, as the fortune-tellers would predict. Either way, Saturn is the “master teacher” in her life. His stern hand influences all her affairs, ever-present and uncompromising. She is on Saturn’s wavelength no matter what that ringed planet is doing. She responds unmistakably even to fairly subtle changes in Saturn’s daily location. Why? Because no matter what Saturn does, she is listening.

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