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Sarai
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posted January 10, 2008 05:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, vertex experts. Spill it. How does it figure in the natal chart? How do you analyze the vertex in synastry?

Sarai

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kindjali
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posted January 10, 2008 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sarai,

Vertex - Sensitive point in Natal Chart. Karma. You can't escape events when it is "activated".
From my experience and experience of ppl I know, it is point where something or somebody is "entering" or "exiting" our life. It teach us something.
Most strongest activation is when Saturn or Lunar nodes conjuct or oppose it (anti-vertex) or if eclipse is occuring on that point.

In synastry, it is strong indication of connection between two ppl, even on astral level. YOu both have karmic debts to each other in this life. I hade double vertex-AC conjuction with my Ex.
It, of course does not guarantee anything, it is about karmic debts.
Vertex-AC/DC/MC/IC/Saturn/NN/SN are strongest connections in synastry.

Anything special that occured in my life was when North Node or Vertex were involved. Transits are only transits, it can be something or not, but when are Nodes and Vertex activated, you can't escape that.
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Sarai
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posted January 10, 2008 05:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kindjali,

That was awesome, thank you!!!

Now, it begs the question:

How do I calculate the vertex in synastry?

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Lana29865
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posted January 10, 2008 06:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, I deleted my post as looking at those placements made me only more worried...

L.

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CoralFrequency
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posted January 10, 2008 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with NN/SN.. I had major karma with a person who has NN at 20 Taurus.. and SN at 20 Scorp.. My Vertex is at 20 Scorp.. and my Anti-Vertex at 20 Taurus.

Sarai, at astro.com - in 'extended chart selection'.. you can select the Vertex and it will show up.

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kindjali
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posted January 10, 2008 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx Sarai

Go to www.astro.com like Coral said.

I wanted to say that when I examined events in mine and others chart, Nodes and Vertex are both karmic. Only difference between them is in "activation".

Vertex is activated when BIG planets + Nodes conjuct it or oppose it (anti-vertex).

SN and NN are activated when THEY make transit and conjuct planets.
I think that progression planets transiting NN and SN can make same effect, but not when transiting planets do that.

K.

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astroleolady
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posted January 11, 2008 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroleolady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.falconastrology.com/aries_point_vertex.htm#vert

A great article, Has Anyone Seen Vertumnus?
Considering the Vertex in the Natal Chart, by Kim Falconer.

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EighthMoon
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posted January 12, 2008 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kindjali,

Great info. I currenly have my progressed true node and sun at the exact same degree...to the second. Both are 6.55 Taurus in the 6th. Do you count progressions as being important when conjuncting eachother? (My natal True/North Node is 7 Taurus in the 7th.)

Sarai...here's a link I thought was good. Scroll to the bottom of the webpage for Vertex.
http://groups.msn.com/HOROSCOPESCHAT/angles2.msnw

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kindjali
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posted January 12, 2008 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8moon ,

You gotta look whole picture. First of all you look at transits, then progressions. Then you look Nodes and Vertex.
When all have some "activity" there is definetly something going on.

Sun-NN progressive conjuction...What aspect they make to Natal planets and other progression planets? Sun-NN progressive conjuction can last for months.

K.

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Sarai
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posted January 13, 2008 03:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANKS so much to everyone. I love the links and the learning.

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Love
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posted January 13, 2008 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for North Node:

I agree that, generally speaking, transits to one's natal NN are not necessarily indicative of something whereas transiting NN on one's personal planet (or house) is more consistent.

I will mention, however, that the day I met my ex, transiting NN was conjuncting my Valentine asteroid and transiting Valentine asteroid was conjuncting his NN. Also, Moon was exactly conjunct my South Node. Funny.

So, just because of that I can see how there are times when a transiting planet or asteroid will sometimes affect one's natal Nodes

As for Vertex (since that was a brief digression) on the same day I met my ex, I had transiting Vertex conjuncting my Neptune (in the 7th) and my own name asteroid and Eros conjuncting my natal Vertex.

On the day my ex broke up with me, I had Lilith conjuncting my Vertex and he had NN conjuncting his Anti-Vertex.

On both the day we met and the day we broke up, my ex had transiting Psyche conjunct his Vertex.

It's definitely a very sensitive point, but it's hard to define how each transit may or may not take shape. Hindsight is 20/20 (ie -Vertex conjunct Neptune - ha ha.)

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Love
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posted January 13, 2008 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh - I forgot to add the stuff on synastry.

The reason why it's interesting that my ex had the Psyche transitis to his Vertex is that in synastry, his Psyche conjuncts my Vertex. Kind of opposite, but still odd.

His Vertex conjuncts my Juno. I still have no idea what that means...I used to think it might mean that we would get married (since I also have my NN conjunct his Sun and Juno) but that is not the case. I also have my Valentine asteroid conjunct his Anti-Vertex.

??? I'll throw 'em out there, but that doesn't mean I have a clue

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Sarai
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posted January 13, 2008 04:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow. You guys are leaps and bounds ahead of me on this stuff! I have much to learn.

Sarai

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