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Topic: chiron conjunct DC in synastry?
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heart cakes
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posted January 11, 2008 08:15 PM
 
does this aspect mean the chiron person heals the DC person's way of relating? or the chiron person wounds the DC person's way of relating? or the DC person heals the chiron person with their way of relating, or wounds them, or what??could it be any of the above, or is there sort of a standard interpretation. i cannot find this one ANYWHERE so i am interested in experiences or if anyone knows forsure!! if it helps, person A's chiron is 1 degree into person B's 7th house. IP: Logged |
SagSun
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posted January 12, 2008 04:47 PM
I have that aspect with my SO ... my Chiron exactly conjuncts his DC. I don't really know what this really means, though...IP: Logged |
heart cakes
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posted January 12, 2008 10:51 PM
woo, interesting sag sun. so do you find it is a healing relationship? is it painful? is one of you more healing than the other or anything?me and my guy have so many chiron aspects i can't be sure what is what, but i'm sure this is one of the stronger ones. i find our connection is based very much on dealing with and releasing old hurts, at least for me.. IP: Logged |
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posted January 13, 2008 05:22 AM
It definitely is a healing relationship ... at least for me it is. He made me be more open with other people because he is actually the first person that made me feel accepted. Am I making sense here??? He accepts me for who I am and doesn't want me to be any different and that in turn made me feel more comfortable about who I am and not try to be someone else in order for people to like me. Dealing with old wounds is definitely a theme between us. But it is not so much about past relationships. It is more about friendships and about the feeling of being accepted and liked by other people. Both of us hadn't exactly the easiest of childhoods when it comes to so called friends. We've been taken advantage of more times than we can count. The result of this being that we (particularly I) now find it very hard to trust people. Well, and he made me find that trust again by talking with him about those experiences. However, my Chiron also trines his Venus, so I don't really know whether the Chiron/DC conjunction is the sole responsible for any of this...  IP: Logged |
heart cakes
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posted January 13, 2008 12:40 PM
ahh, interesting sag sun!!there is a similar theme for us, but relates more to family of origin. i've only known him a few months and we live far apart, but the connection is quite strong and i feel like we are very protective of eachother. the weird thing is.. i feel like we misunderstand eachother a lot and then get hurt and then realize eventually that we totally misunderstood eachother and that in fact what was meant or intended, etc, is pretty much the opposite of what we thought it was, and it is so healing! it's so weird!! i mean since our communication is limited i'm not 100% sure on this, but that is mostly how it feels.. it's like our wounds get exacerbated very directly (and completely unintentionally) and then it is funny and so healing to realize that it was totally not that way at all, and that the spirit of whatever was said was actually in huge kindness and caringness!! i just find it so interesting that we have all these little inadvertent triggers with eachother. i think i see how it could go either way with chiron contacts, if the focus is NOT on healing.. IP: Logged |
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posted January 14, 2008 03:20 AM
You know, it's funny but my SO and I are living in different countries too and we don't see each other for months. Right now our communication is limited to a view phone calls every other week or so. I am struggling with our situation quite a bit. I miss talking to him a lot ... he's not just the guy I love but has also been my best friend for as long as I can remember. I get upset easily when I can't reach him because I tend to misinterpret his actions. Like, the other day I tried to call him and he wouldn't answer the phone. I got really upset because I thought that he didn't want to talk to me anymore and that he was avoiding me (writing this down it all sounds terribly stupid and immature  ). The next day I finally reached him and it turned out that he actually couldn't answer his phone the day before and that he was just really exhausted.Things like that happen to us all the time. You know, I have a Leo Moon so I crave a lot of attention and if I don't get this attention I get upset. Well, and with my Chiron on his Descendant I feel like he his teaching me to take things less personally and don't jump to the wrong conclusions right away. I mean, my mind keeps telling me that he is not avoiding me, but the long distance thing makes it all too easy to see what you want to see...  ------------------
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heart cakes
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posted January 15, 2008 12:32 AM
hi sag sun!well, i can understand that! i have moon either in or at the 5th house cusp (depending on the house system) and i'm finding a lot of my hurt comes from lack of attention. i like to give it, and get it!! i'm wondering, do you guys have a lot of saturn aspects? i hear that can contribute to the sort of dynamic where there tends to be a block or series of them, often of physical distance, etc, at least at first while in a relationship? me and this guy have a lot and i thought that was what the distance thing was, primarily, but maybe it is the chiron thing too.. it's so weird cuz in our case our parents are a lot like the other person, at least in terms of personal taste and lifestyle choices, which we rebelled against and became the opposite of! so it's very bizarre, cuz the things he likes triggers the pain in me, and i think possibly vice versa for him (though i haven't asked).. but this sort of dynamic is one part of this!! but we spent the most perfect weekend together and it was 100% healing and sweet and beautiful.. beyond anything i've ever experienced.. and yes, gradually we've had more and more things get in the way of our communication (his computer broke and other phone problems).. he's also very shy, etc, on the phone.. so it has been an excercise in trust!! i also find that over and over we were misunderstanding eachother over the phone but luckily i'm tenacious and spent a lot of time thinking it all over and realize that our communication styles just somehow trigger old wounds, totally unintentionally! so it's really interesting!! we had zero communication problems in person though and it is quite the symbiotic, warm perfectly harmonious and healing vibe between us, so it is really interesting!! and also, it feels like we are both worried that the other person is upset with us, so we become defensive, which the other person then interprets as rejection.. that is the basic dynamic.. and of course the flip side of it is that it seems to be that the intention is always the opposite of how we've perceived it, and we both seem to care a great deal for eachother, so it is totally healing, despite the intitial wounding, or, more accurately, exacerbation of the intial woundedness! does that ring true for you guys? also his anti vertex is conjunct my chiron, and his vertex is on his pluto so there is some kind of major energy happening there!
i also find that just knowing him has been really healing in way too many ways to describe in words. it's like he's touched and soothed every level of me, somehow. it's really beautiful! and yeah, like you said, i feel totally accepted and cared for for the first time!
now if only i could trust that and relax.. heheh. IP: Logged |
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posted January 15, 2008 03:39 AM
Actually, our situation is quite similar to yours. When we are together, we have no problems at all communicating. He just gets me in ways that nobody else can. On the phone, however, things get really difficult. He is a bit of a private person and doesn't like it when other people can hear what he's saying on the phone. Now, the problem with this is that he is doing his military service right now, so he is never alone. And this makes it really hard to have a conversation that goes beyond talking about the weather with him. Also, he is kind of moody so it's hard to tell in advance whether he is in a talkative mood when I call him or not. When we are together I always can tell just by looking into his eyes whether he wants to be left alone or not. But over the phone ... it is really difficult. quote:
i'm wondering, do you guys have a lot of saturn aspects? i hear that can contribute to the sort of dynamic where there tends to be a block or series of them, often of physical distance, etc, at least at first while in a relationship? me and this guy have a lot and i thought that was what the distance thing was, primarily, but maybe it is the chiron thing too.
Actually we do have some Saturn energy going on ... I don't really know if the aspects we have are responsible for the long distance thing but it definitely feels like we are in each other's life to learn and to heal ... it all feels very karmic ... Here are our aspects:
*HIS Saturn sextile MY Sun
*HIS Saturn conjunct MY Mars/Vertex
*MY Saturn sextile HIS Mars/Jupiter
*MY Saturn opposite HIS Chiron (eek  )
*HIS Saturn trine MY Chiron
*HIS Saturn conjunct MY DC quote:
and also, it feels like we are both worried that the other person is upset with us, so we become defensive, which the other person then interprets as rejection.. that is the basic dynamic.. and of course the flip side of it is that it seems to be that the intention is always the opposite of how we've perceived it, and we both seem to care a great deal for eachother, so it is totally healing, despite the intitial wounding, or, more accurately, exacerbation of the intial woundedness! does that ring true for you guys?
Oh yeah, I hear you. I don't know if he feels that way too, but I definitely struggle with those things. Whenever he is not talking to me I think that it has something to do with me and that maybe I did something wrong. And then I get really upset and mad at him which of course makes him become defensive. And even though I know in my mind that it has absolutely nothing to do with me when he acts like that, I take things personally ... I can't help it. When we are together on the other hand he is the sweetest and kindest guy and really cares about me. So, no matter how much I feel hurt by him, I just can't let go because the sweet moments I spend with him make it all worthwhile. quote:
also his anti vertex is conjunct my chiron, and his vertex is on his pluto so there is some kind of major energy happening there!
That's really interesting. In our case, my Vertex exactly conjuncts his Saturn. And when we met transiting Chiron was directly opposite his natal Vertex. Also, his Chiron squares my Moon and opposes my Saturn and my Chiron quintiles his Moon, trines his Venus and Saturn and squares his North Node. So, there seems to be some karmic thing going on.IP: Logged |
heart cakes
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posted January 15, 2008 03:45 AM
wow, it is so interesting that the dynamics are so similar!! he has the same issue with the phone and his roommate.. and yeah, when we are together, it's like we're both SO sensitive and aware of eachother that there is no misunderstanding whatsoever. but that makes me realize, being we're both so sensitive, it makes sense that there is a lot of room for misinterpretation and taking things personally, etc (in the case of on the phone or what have you, when all the signals can't be read)! chiron seems to be a very SENSITIVE placement. also our ACs are both sensitive (he has chiron and moon conjunct AC, i have venus and neptune conjunct AC, so i think we're both just really sensitive as it is)..those seem like pretty healthy saturn contacts to me, though i am not so great at synastry. but they mostly seem pretty good. and i, personally, like oppositions. i think they've got AMAZING potential.
i am just really amazed that the same aspect seems to be playing out really similarily for both of us!! it's so weird, hey, cuz it's like.. your heart is so engaged, whether in a frightened, sad way, or a very loving, soothed, peaceful way, hey? like, with him, i just can't turn it off!!
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posted January 15, 2008 05:22 PM
It's really quite amazing that one single aspect plays out in such a similar fashion for both of us. I find Chiron to be very interesting in general ... it's amazing really. I mean, there seems to be so much karma and healing related to it. I really love Chiron contacts in synastry. I even like the harsher ones because I feel that that's what relationships are all about ... you learn about yourself, you face your own personal issues and ultimately you will find healing in some way through the other person. No matter how much you sometimes wish that you could just walk away from it all ... take the easy way out, there is something that keeps pulling you back. IP: Logged |
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posted January 15, 2008 05:37 PM
yeah exactly!!that is what is happening with me; it's like there is no way to hide from all the feelings that come up, but it is totally a healing vibe.. despite how painful it is! and i am pretty sure it is happening in a similar way for him too based on a lot of the things he has said.. i agree with you, i LOVE chiron in synastry now, tonnes!! so much of poor communication (if not all) is based in peoples' hurts carried over into the present, and with chiron aspects it feels like the hurts are so easily unearthed and are so obvious, but along with it there exists such a caring environment, or potential, that it is just so wonderfully cathartic! it's really interesting!! IP: Logged |
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posted January 15, 2008 05:42 PM
What does chiron conjunct chiron in synastry mean? Being wounded and wounding at the same time?IP: Logged |
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posted August 01, 2011 03:40 PM
In my experience being the DC person, I was the one who felt his hurt.. his sense of loneliness. Funny thing is though, he is quite popular and well liked (natal Venus opp Jupiter). But I still felt his pain.. and I think in the end I caused him a lot more. I feel like he's healed me a lot more than I've healed him.------------------
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posted June 12, 2012 03:30 AM
Bump I'm very interested in hearing more about that topic. Please share if you can I put my Chiron right on his DC and his Mercury (which happens to be his Chart ruler). I think I feel his pain, but I wonder about him. IP: Logged |
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posted June 12, 2012 01:19 PM
Well, I have lots of chiron contacts with this one guy. His chiron overlays my 7th house.
My chiron overlays his 10th house.
Both houses are in Taurus/ Gemini My chiron square his sun.
My chiron biquintile his moon.
MY chiron square his venus.
My chiron sextile his mars. *
My chiron opposes his jupiter. *
My chiron quincunx his saturn. *
My chiron opposes his uranus.
My chiron quincunx his pluto.
My chiron conjuncts his chiron. *
My chiron squares his AC. *
My chiron conjuncts his MC. His chiron semisextiles my sun.
His chiron conjuncts my mercury.
His chiron quintiles my venus. *
His chiron opposes my jupiter. *
His chiron biquintiles my saturn.
His chiron opposes my uranus. *
His chiron biquintiles my pluto. *
His chiron conjuncts my chiron. * * after the aspects signifies the ones that are present even with 40% ord reduction. Anyway, so these are the points I read that really relate to our story: 1. I had to work on my past wounds with him and he had to face his past wounds with me.
2. He tried to help me solve them, while I did the same for him.
3. He has certain characteristics that I did not initially pick up on. These are similar to the characteristics in my parents; the quailities that hurt me the most growing up and made me want to find someone without those qualities. I don't know if I remind him of his parents. Yet, toward the end I was very harsh, blunt like his dad and persistent like his mom.
4. I've never felt close to any other human being, nor as pained and so uncontrolled.
5. We have been very emotional.
6. He did heal me and open me up.
7. He did hurt me and make me desire to go back to my old way of life.
8. I have had this desire to heal him from the beginning. I wanted to be his safety net.
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posted June 16, 2012 09:04 PM
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