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Sarai
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posted January 12, 2008 05:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the parallel aspect??? How come this never comes up in any charts that I cast? I'm always hearing about it but have absolutely no idea what it is. At all!

Is this a special trick/calculation? Does astro.com offer a parallel report or something that I don't know about?

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Peri
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posted January 12, 2008 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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AcousticGod
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posted January 12, 2008 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never really known about this either, though I see the term thrown about quite a bit.

Sun 23°20’18" S
Mercury 22°12’16" S
Jupiter 22°34’13" S
True Node 22°22’46" S

Parallel, right? I think Saturn would be contraparallel (to some of those) at 21° 3’42" N.

Venus 20°53’31" S
Mars 19°17’ 2" S
Neptune 19°46’ 8" S

Are these all parallel, too, or is Venus out?

Interps: http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/declinationsparallels.html

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Sarai
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posted January 13, 2008 03:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Peri and AcousticGod!!!

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SagSun
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posted January 13, 2008 05:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Parallels and contraparallels in synastry can make up for contacts missing in the "ordinary" chart. For instance, if you don't have a Sun/Moon contact by aspect, but your Sun is parallel the other's Moon, there will still be some sort of understanding between the two of you even though the signs of the Sun and Moon may not be compatible at first glance.

Personally I think parallels act like a weaker version of the conjunction while contraparallels are more like oppositions. Whether or not those parallels/contraparalles are positively or negatively felt actually depends on the nature of the planets involved. However, opinions seem to differ quite a bit on this one and some people say that it really doesn't make a difference whether the planets are parallel or contraparallel just as long as there's a connection. So, it's up to everyone to decide who they think is right...

PS: I normally use an orb of 1 degree and I wouldn't use an orb larger than 1.2 degrees.

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Glaucus
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posted January 13, 2008 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The charts that most astrologers look are only based on the ecliptic longitudes which is the planets in the zodiac signs. The ecliptic latitude coordinates aren't even used in Astrology.

The Solar and Lunar eclipses are based on declinations

for instance,

Sun and Moon are both conjunct and parallel, that's a Solar Eclipse...Prince William was born during one.

Like when Sun and Moon are both in opposition and contraparallel, that's a Lunar Eclipse


When planets are conjunct and parallel,that's considered an occultation like when Mercury is conjunct and parallel Venus which I have.

Also when planets are in opposition and contraparallel,that's considered an occultation too like when Saturn is oppose and contraparallel Neptune which I have.


Also..objects can be in an aspect other than conjunction and be in parallel or contraparallel, Magi Astrologers consider that a bilevel configuration. An example is my girlfriend's and my Moon are both in trine and parallel. Therefore we have Moon-Moon bilevel configuration.


I don't think conjunctions are weak parallels just like I don't think contraparallel are weak contraparallels. They are just a different coordinate that's all. I feel that the orb from exactness and the strong are connected. An exact parallel could be stronger than a 8 degree conjunction.


I have declinations that seem to correlate with planetary placements

for example:
My Mercury contraparallel Saturn is like my Saturn in Gemini

My Mercury parallel Neptune is like my Neptune in 3rd

Seasons are based on declinations:

Northern Hemisphere:
The Vernal Equinox (beginning of Spring),Sun is in 0 Aries and 0 in the declinations.

The Autumnal Equinox(beginning of Fall),Sun is in 0 Libra and 0 in the declinations.

The Summer Solstice(beginning of Summer),Sun is in 0 Cancer and 23'27 North in the declinations.

The Winter Solstice(beginning of Winter),Sun is in 0 Capricorn and 23'27 South in the declinations.


objects beyond 23'27 in declination are out of bounds, and they are Planets that go OOB function like wild cards, able to do great good or harm, depending on many factors.

objects on the celestial equator (0 degrees in the declinations) are strong energies
as long as they are less than 1 degree in the declinations,they are on the equator

I have Juno in 00'10 North in the declinations,and so my Juno is on the equator. Therefore,I have strong Juno energy.


Astronomers use the celestial equator coordinations to locate the objects

Declinations - Latitude celestial equator coordinations
Right Ascension - Longitude celestial equator coordinates


I really don't believe in using tropical zodiac for people born in the southern hemisphere because tropical zodiac is based on the northern hemisphere. I am not sure about using sidereal zodiac either because it's not aligned with the actual constellations. The Sidereal Zodiac is a zodiac of 12 signs with equal 30 degree spans, but the Constellation Zodiac on the ecliptic consist of 13 Zodiac signs and aren't an equal span with Virgo being much larger and Scorpio being much smaller.

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darkdreamer
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posted January 13, 2008 01:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"objects beyond 23'27 in declination are out of bounds, and they are Planets that go OOB function like wild cards, able to do great good or harm, depending on many factors."

I guess that means my Mercury and Venus are out of bounds then, and my Sun is only 4 seconds below the 23°27.
Actually my Sun on 23`23 and my Mercury on 24`38 are both parallel my Venus on 24`06.

Glaucus, what do you think about occultations in synastry. I guess the parallel / contraparell would strengthen an existing aspect, wouldn`t it?

Like for example:
His Mars conjunct her Venus (4°18) and
his Mars parallel her Venus (6 minutes of arc).

Even though the Mars-Venus-conjunct is rather wide, it probably would be felt due to the parallel, or am I seeing this wrong?

DD

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Glaucus
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posted January 13, 2008 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Glaucus, what do you think about occultations in synastry. I guess the parallel / contraparell would strengthen an existing aspect, wouldn`t it?"

That's correct.

"Like for example:
His Mars conjunct her Venus (4°18) and
his Mars parallel her Venus (6 minutes of arc)."

"Even though the Mars-Venus-conjunct is rather wide, it probably would be felt due to the parallel, or am I seeing this wrong?"

You are right. Also..some astrologers would count that to be an actual conjunction.
Harmonic Astrologers actually use 12 degrees for a conjunction in a natal chart and use 6 degrees for a conjunction in synastry.


my girlfriend and I have a few occultations

Ascendant oppose Ascendant - '16
contraparallel - '06

Her Mercury oppose my Uranus - 1'50
contraparallel - '43

Her Station Jupiter conj my Jupiter - 2'37
parallel - '01

Her Station Jupiter conj my IC - '19
parallel - '56

Her Uranus conjunct my IC - 2'13
parallel - '25

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 13, 2008 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"occultation"

I've never heard this,
what does it mean, exactly.

I've read that when two planets are both conjunct AND parallel,
it is the strongest pairing of energies possible.

My Sun and Uranus are both Conjunct and Parallel.
So this means they are "occult" or "in occultation"?
But what does that mean?
Just that they are extremely closely linked?


My (Aqua) Moon is also parallel Uranus and Sun.

Venus/Mars/Neptune/ASC all parallel as well (21' S).

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Glaucus
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posted January 13, 2008 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you heard of the name,occult...it means hidden.

occultation is a hiding. It is when planets obscure other planets or stars temporarily It's called occultation to differentiate it from an eclipse. It's equal to a powerful total or partile conjunction or opposition

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AcousticGod
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posted January 13, 2008 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In synastry:

(I started to write it all out, but there are so many aspects it seems like it would be a wasted effort.)

quote:
objects on the celestial equator (0 degrees in the declinations) are strong energies

My girlfriend's got Chiron at 0°48’ 3" S. The wounded healer does kind of fit her personality.

quote:
objects beyond 23'27 in declination are out of bounds, and they are Planets that go OOB function like wild cards, able to do great good or harm, depending on many factors.

She's also got the Moon at 25°39’44" N.

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etheric distortion
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posted January 14, 2008 05:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Glaucus,

I'd never heard about the planets being close to the equator being powerful in an individuals chart before, but, since you mentioned it,I checked, and found I also have Juno close to the equator (00'32 degrees North)...


Yay!!! for us Juno folk !!!

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darkdreamer
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posted January 14, 2008 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glaucus,

thank you for your reply.

Regarding the orbs I feel rather insure about their validity, if they are larger than 3°.
Maybe they are still working outside the 3°-orb, but I am just not sure about this.
But I am very sure about orbs under 1° - 2°. They definitely "work".

But often, with larger orbs, I also find that the planets may be (contra)parallel or at the solstice-conjunction or - opposition; or there may even be a tight connection, involving house-rulers.

In the synastry I mentioned above with the Mars-Venus-conjunction and parallel, there`s also:

his Venus solstice conjunct her Mars -`43
his Venus solstice conjunct her ASC - 1°08

his ASC-ruler solstice opp. her DSC - 1°08
his DSC-ruler sextile her ASC-ruler - `47

So, it`s not that easy to say, what exactly is being felt, or if it`s maybe all felt.

DD

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 14, 2008 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Yay!!! for us Juno folk !!!

YAAAY!!!!

1st house Moon Conjunct Juno
(less than 1 degree orb)

Moon rules 7th, house of marriage.

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joyrjw
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posted June 25, 2011 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joyrjw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AcousticGod:
I've never really known about this either, though I see the term thrown about quite a bit.

Sun 23°20’18" S
Mercury 22°12’16" S
Jupiter 22°34’13" S
True Node 22°22’46" S

Parallel, right? I think Saturn would be contraparallel (to some of those) at 21° 3’42" N.

Venus 20°53’31" S
Mars 19°17’ 2" S
Neptune 19°46’ 8" S

Are these all parallel, too, or is Venus out?

Interps: http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/declinationsparallels.html


Yep, they're all parallel.

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