posted January 13, 2008 10:34 AM              

I think it could have been me starting that topic on Houses-synastry that you mentioned.

I think this is a fascinating subject. I don`t know if it`s the "missing" part; but it seems to show some significant connections.

I thought it was interesting in my own synastry with a certain actor - so not a relationship. But I was always puzzled that I could never tell if I really like him or not. It`s like going from being "totally fascinated and overwhelmed" to a sense of "repulsion".
I was so puzzled that I showed such a strong, but extremely unbalanced emotional reaction to him, and that I couldn`t even tell what it is that I am "feeling".
On top of that he has featured in many of my dreams and most of them revolved about issues of being violently separated, loneliness, loss, violence, threats, being imprisioned and chained, torment (mostly psychological), even death. All very dark. I could never understand how he should make me having those nightmarish dreams.

But the "house-synastry" seems to reflect those dreams very well.

His house-Saturn conjuncts my house-SN and my house-Saturn conjuncts his house-SN. (in 7th and 8th house)

my house-Vertex conjuncts his house-Vertex (in 8th house - we have ASC-ASC-conjunct, so the same houses are being "hit")

my house-Pluto conjuncts his tropical Sun (1st tropical house)
his house-Pluto conjuncts my tropical Sun (1st tropical house)

his Pluto conjuncts my house-SN (10th house)
my Uranus conjuncts his house - SN (10th house)

my house Karma conjuncts his Pluto (10th house)
his house Karma opposite my Pluto (10th house)

With all these Saturn-Pluto-aspects I guess the darkness of my dreams is no wonder.

(Of course in tropical synastry there`s also Pluto-synastry, since his Sun exactly conjuncts my Venus and both are square his and my Pluto).

But yes, I think there is some significance to houses-aspects.
But I`m not yet sure how to interprete it really.
I think we should consider what the difference between signs and houses is.
Like the houses are more outwardly oriented; I mean they telly ou something about areas of life, whereas the signs colour the planets with certain traits.

Example:
Planet in Libra
Planet in 7th house

The Planet in Libra will take on some Libra-characterics like seeking balance and harmony for example.
And a planet in 7th house will seek to relate to other people.

But then again; if you`re seeking balance and harmony you find yourself often in relationships I guess. So maybe the difference is not all that big.

But maybe the houses are related more to circumstances than innate traits of a person?
HOw do you see it?

posted January 13, 2008 11:10 AM              

Huber always works with Koch houses, so if oyu want to look at a different house system, you have to change it ( I personally prefer Placidus).

Of course with the house-charts there will be very wide differences with the different housesystems.

Ex:
In Placidus my Moon is on 23° in 2nd house,
in KOch it is on 6° in 3rd house and in
Equal it is on 10° in 3rd house.

posted January 13, 2008 11:36 AM              

do you mind sharing some of your results with us?
Did you find interesting connections, too?

posted January 14, 2008 06:16 AM              

i wanted to ask sth if you please:

Does that system also counts with quicunks?
Like if a planet is 0š Scopr (my Saturn) and his Kiron is 27š taurus ..hmm does it indicates a quicunk?

Cause in astro this aspect doenst appear but i took a look on another one and it list that aspect

posted January 14, 2008 08:23 AM              

well, in housesynastry, at least one of the placements would be in the houses, rather than the signs.

Like for example:

Saturn in 0° 8th house and Chiron in 27° 2nd house.
Or even Saturn in 0° Scoprio and Chiron in 27° on 2nd house.
or Saturn in 0° 8th house and Chiron in 27° Taurus.

But however, I`ve only counted the conjunctions and oppositions so far, because those would be the strongest connections.
However, the other aspects may play a role, also. But you`ll get such a lot of connections then, if you compare:

1. houses - houses
2. his houses - her signs
3. her houses - his signs

So, I would probably mainly focus on the ocnjunctions and oppositions and maybe take into account the other aspects, if they are very exact. But a quinkunx with 3° - well, I guess it would be a rather weak aspect.

posted January 14, 2008 12:44 PM              

yes, I have looked a tiny little bit into the API-school, founded by Huber.

They do the house-chart, the nodal chart and the normal chart.
And then for synastry they compare:

1. house-house
2. nodal - nodal
3. and house-nodal, I think, with an emphasis on the conjunctions / oppositions.

Also, the comparision between the house and the normal chart is interesting, even in your own natal.
The natal chart is said to reflect your inner qualities, but the house chart is said to reflect how circumstances are and how your environement sees you and influences you.
In a synastry the housechart would tell you something about the possibilitiy to actually live (house-chart) the potential (normal tropical chart), if I have understood it right.

What is also interesting is the comparision between nodal and housechart, it apparently shows how the karma of one person influences the other one`s life.

I hope I didn`t say something wrong here.

posted January 14, 2008 01:45 PM            

well, this puppy says a big yes! Mine was validation of a pet theory. For example: Interceptions in a chart; In that we all have all of the signs represented in some way, shape or form. An intercepted house is said to represent a difficulty in expression of that signs energy. It is there, *the door* but sometimes we brush up against people that can help us open it.

posted January 14, 2008 02:48 PM              

interesting theory.

My chartruler, Jupiter, is in intercepted 3rd house in Pisces.
But actually I always thought that Jupiter was very apparent in my life. Not really hidden or without access.

WEll, but the comparision of nodal and house-chart is very intriguing to me.

posted January 14, 2008 04:30 PM              

Thanks DD!

posted January 15, 2008 05:01 AM            

It's interesting what you were saying about circumstances & areas of life vs psychological traits.

like, if your 1st house sun were trine someones 9th house moon, it could mean that maybe your ego tendency for independance combines well with the other persons emotional tendency to explore. There would be an Aries-Sag theme, but the focus would be more on what people do rather than on how they do it. A sign trine would be about compatible styles of doing, while a house trine would be about how different areas of activity in each person's life combine. Interesting...

If this is so, then it makes sense that a house-sign aspect would be all about how one persons style, and anothers direction of activity, influence each other. You could also inclulde the node (Draco) placements in the mix. The nodes are about personal growth, so aspects could be read in terms of how a persons particular style of expression, or direction of activity, affect your ability to learn and move forward.

Yeah, for me it does makes sense to think of a house placemet as an area of focus, as opposed to a sign placement, which is more about style and technque. Then, to consider the two factors in aspect accordingly.

For example: Perhaps someone with moon in scorpio is emotionally in tune with undercurrents, and able to make shrewd observations due to this ability. Then they meet someone who has mercury in the 12th 'trine' their moon. The mercury person naturally has a keen fascination (area of focus) with all that is hidden and mysterious and so becomes intrigued by the moon person's insight. While moon person senses mercury's genuine interest in them, and feels more fee to confide about hunches. However, if mercury's sign just happens to be Sag, they will probably express their interest in the scorpio moon quite enthusiasticly (style), and if the scorpio moon just happens to be in the 11th house, maybe they have much awearness of secrets going on in their social circle(area of focus), and this is what titilates the mercury person.

You could incorporate all these different levels into the interpretation.

Having said that, though, I must say I too agree with what DD mentioned in her first post, using that Libra/7th example. If a psycological tendency can lead to a certain activity and vice versa, then sometimes the line between the two becomes a little blurred...I wouldn't want to be too rigid about style verses activity type ect. Rather using this conscept as a general guideline is enough. Wiggle room is good.