posted January 15, 2008 08:16 PM              

I'm not feeling so hot about this, even though I'm trying to look at the bright side, naturally. I've read some scary stuff in my 3 1/2 years studying Western astro, and some of the scariest was about Pluto conjunct moon...I've got Cancer on the cusp of the 9th, which doesn't help when it comes to my fears, as I'm not interested in moving anywhere. And then there's the situation with my mother, who isn't generally well. You can see why I'm not thrilled.

Has anyone else lived through this transit and would you like to share your experiences?

posted January 15, 2008 09:58 PM            

You should remind yourself that the 9th house is not only international travel. The 9th house also rules law, religion, higher education, philanthropy, philosophy, publishing, spirituality, judgement, opinions, government, teaching, etc. Only you know for sure what it can mean for you and the way your life is unfolding. But, of course, long distance travel isn't ruled out, but look at your life and see which one of those subjects sticks out for you.

Also, I'm sure that there are some other transits, progressions and Solar Arcs happening in your chart as well. Look at those in addition to the Pluto to Moon transit. It doesn't have to be scary, there may be some career changes for you as well so just live your life one day at a time and remember: GRADUALISM. That's how our lives unfold.

Good luck to you,

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posted January 15, 2008 11:57 PM            

But personally, I think the square is worse. With the conjunction, which can be more neutral in terms of whether it's positive or challenging, perhaps it will take a more positive form for you.

posted January 16, 2008 12:06 AM            

ditto on what geo said about the 9th house.
Pluto's transits are long and drawn out and depending on your natal aspects to the Moon it could also be law or (higher) education issues.

posted January 16, 2008 02:35 AM              

I think regardless of the transits we should look forward to life and whatever it offers and ALWAYS we turn out better than before and much stronger.. I thought my mum was possessed during the pluto moon transits and she also had pluto opposing sun. But im learning to love my mum again now.

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posted January 16, 2008 05:10 AM            

Who knows what other sh!t the universe will throw at me? But as someone once said to me, "let's worry about the problems we've got before we worry about what might happen, otherwise we'll never get through the day."

Have looked closely at transits and progressions that have hit you in the past? It might help to have a look, and see if it corresponds to anything significant in your life. This could take some of the fear out of the situation. The Moon/Pluto conjunction might not manifest itself in the way you think.

posted January 16, 2008 09:36 AM              

The first time Pluto squared my Moon exactly heralded the beginning of the happiest time in my life. Strange, isn`t it?
My life is kinda divided into BEFORE and AFTER this moment.

It was some kind of awakening for me; spiritual as well as emotional and to a certain degree even sexually. Well, Moon rules my 8th house, so probably no wonder.

Of course, when Pluto squared my Moon the second time, it was not at all that happy and nice. The intensity of my experiences had become a very serious "emotional fixation" and I`ve been working very hard in those last years to see what of all of this was true, and what was just a dream of mine.
There has been emotional storms after that, of course, and I have been hurting so much inside, due to things that happened much later, but the seed was being layed there, when Pluto squared my Moon.
But those experiences, this pain, this transformation was necessary.

Interestingly, what I have been going through those last 2 years, with Transit Pluto conjunct my Sun, is very tightly connected to what had begun then.
It`s like, what I experienced INSIDE all these years ago, has come OUT IN THE OPEN now.

But what I remember about that Moon-Pluto-square was that it was a stormy, very intense period in my life, in which I was leading some kind of very secluded life and my family probably was very worried about me, but I was happy.

Facing reality that was what broke me down (which happened when Tr Saturn was conjunct my Moon and Tr Uranus / Neptune was opposite my Saturn).
I felt like I had been expelled from heaven. And you should think the Moon-Pluto-square should have felt like hell! But it didn`t.

EDIT:
Well, I think I idolized that time a bit in my above reply.
I think, Moon-Pluto gave me both sides - the heaven and the hell.
I just remembered that when Pluto was squaring my Moon for the last time, I have been beaten up rather badly by a crowd of youths, and I remember it vividly - not the physical pain, but the humiliation, the powerlessness, the fear. Actually I think this incident may have been the reason for my fear of crowds until today.
Hmm, interesting Pluto was in my 11th house. So I guess I just had an encounter with the shadow side of groups.

However, this experience also made me very sensitive to "social pressure and violence". And usually I am the one now, who will step up for the "weakest links" in a group.
And I have become a teacher, and interestingly I am always getting the pupils of that age, like I was when I had that nasty encounter. Like I am in some sort of thearapy. lol

That was not a heavenly experience, and it led to feelings of unbearable loss, because I realized I had to give up on a friendship, that had meant much to me.
But sometimes you have to realize that the person you trust the most, is not really trustworthy.

So, I guess it was not an easy time, that Moon-Pluto-transit, and yet, I wouldn`t want to miss it.
And it wasn`t all that bad. As I said above, it also was a very happy time for me, at least at first.

And regarding that "group-encounter" I must admit that I have always had troubles with large crowds. I had feared them even before. It was just as if that incident had given me the reason afterwards, but the fear has been there before. Due to other group-experiences of my younger years (Pluto rules my 11th house of groups and is square my Venus in 1st house). And then there was no Pluto-Moon-aspect.

posted January 16, 2008 10:14 AM              

Oh, and yes, praecipua, I picked this screen name because I'm a sheep in Chinese astro. And as I mentioned on another thread, I'm an Earth Sheep (sometimes called "the self-reliant sheep" in China). So I went with "wild" as in "can't be domesticated" sheep for my handle here.

posted January 24, 2008 08:56 PM              

I scare my self with this aspect sometiems. Once I saw it I automatically associated it with my mother. I thought, maybe something would happen to her that might incite change in me. Cancer is also the ruler of my Eigth House. But I have a feeling this transformation could be positive one , because the Moon and Pluto are sextiling each other in my natal.

posted January 24, 2008 09:44 PM              

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Wild sheep, in what ways do you think you are experiencing transiting Pluto? I'm curious.

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I'm starting to realize that although miracles happen, I guess, and my parents have access to excellent medical care, my mother isn't getting any better healthwise. She has several chronic health conditions, any one of which could pull her into her final transformation at any point now. I am also just now starting to address my feelings of exhaustion and unhappiness at having spent the last six years taking care of her.

Also, in the last few weeks, I've started to recognize that I may not exactly want to die in Western Oregon, even though I've lived here my whole life and randomly "decided" several years ago that since I didn't "get out" while I was young, it probably wouldn't be worth the effort to try to relocate now. I'll never really be "young in New York" or Paris now, you know? Yes, I'm starting to "get" that "deciding" this wasn't reflective of the healthiest emotional state.

But the biggest change, especially as regards emotional matters, has to do with a new emotional state I feel myself drifting toward. It has to do with a new kind of perspective on what I can and "can't" do, really (I now think my limits just weren't as profound as I thought they were, necessarily). Which is—freaking me out the most really, the idea that this period of time has the potential to completely radicalize me emotionally some more. After transiting Saturn opposed my natal moon when I was 24, and then transiting Jupiter spent two years expanding my 12th and 1st houses...I went through a period of gargantuan personal growth and eventually started to feel so old. It's been hard for me to make any friends my age (28) because the difference between my emotional personality and that of most other people is significant (I haven't felt emotionally satisfied with any potential friend since 2003). I mean, what's going to be left of me, truly, after Pluto is done? I thought I was done emotionally, completely cooked. I'm just not interested in any additional scarring. I'm also a bit freaked about whether I'm going to want to finish a novel I've been working on since the fall-out from Sat opp moon four years ago. Yes, Pluto conj moon could help with its publication maybe, but what if I have totally "outgrown it," emotionally?

Yes, I get that a lot of these changes are more suggestive of Saturn Return issues than Pluto conj moon issues. I'm also starting to see the potential for this transit to be more about empowerment than loss (as most Pluto transits can be). That doesn't stop me from fearing its negative side (abandonment, abandonment issues—I keep having recurring nightmares about the abandonments I experienced in my past, betrayals I thought I was "beyond"). So, mixed feelings here, about the rest of it.

posted January 31, 2008 01:18 PM              

No, seriously: "Emotional turmoil" DID overwhelm me for a while ... great, great changes in my personal life! But after all: It was definitely the beginning of a great transformation - and I am just about to discover the positive after-effects of this right now!

Here's the story:

I had Pluto cj. my Sagg-Moon (23 dg.), which is located in my 1st house - AND my Sun is in Cancer - so the Pluto-Moon-cj, hit me on a very personal/substancial level. Looking backwards I understand: It was all about my love life - how I'd see myself as "a woman" - and what kind of partner I'd like to be attached to.

The cj.-phase started in Dec.2004 and lasted (with some Pluto-retro- and -forward-motions) about a year, until Dec. 2005.

Actually, I felt some things "boiling inside of me" already 3 months before the first exact 0-degree-conjunction-phase, in summer 2004. I then said "goodbye" to my boyfriend - after nine long years of being and living together! I just ... couldn't take it anymore. I didn't know what exactly I was doin' ... I was surpised about the sudennness of my decision ... but the urge to "free myself" was overwhelming! I told him "it is over" and that I'd move out of our appartment soon.

Yes - I was frightened by myself a bit. But I also felt a very deep rooted trust into my gut feelings, that I was damn right to leave that relationship, no matter what - so Pluto cj. Moon gave me incredible strength/faith in its first phase. I finally made the necessary cut!

When it went in exact cj. (o dg) three months later I was ready to leave the apparment and even the town - I moved to another part of the country where I started all anew by myself, shortly after the new year (2005) had started. This was not easy during the first weeks - but still I felt incredibly strong inside. "Something" led me there ... and all this would "lead" to something. I was oh so sure of that! So: Although this practical move was exciting and hard to do, still there was a huge faith inside of me. Pluto then behaved like a strong "father figure/older brother" in ma back - understand? He made me stay calm, most of the time and gave me patience and endurance.

Then Pluto went retro a bit, leaving my Moon "alone" from Feb till May 2005, giving me some room to breathe and to get to know and enjoy my new surroundings. I LIKED it there.

When it went forward again and hit my Moon for the 2nd time (May 2005 - July 2005) it all got a bit nasty, I must admit. I suddenly met someone again, in my new (!) town, whom I hadn't seen for about 10 years, someone from my past, from the part of the country I had just left! As if my past was haunting me!!! I fell in love very quickly and very hard - I was confronted with some of my deepest cravings and they almost overhwelmed me. Suddenly THIS guy (almost forgotten till then) was EVERYTHING I ever seemed to have wanted! He was completely different to my former boyfriend - my boyfriend was "boyish", THIS man now was 15 years older than me, very experienced, some kind of "respectable father figure" ... and I wondered WHY i suddenly met him again and why I fell so terribly hard for him.

Really - this kept me busy for about half a year or so - I was mad about that man - although there was no chance to ever "get" him. I suffered! Got lost in a dream world, like I NEVER experienced it before.

So I had to struggle with some tough internal fights, and I learned a lot my REAL and PUREST cravings and longings in love. It seemed that I didn't know myself anymore for a while ... I NEVER had such feelings for a man. I wanted to "hand myself over to him" completely ...

Well ... but someday these strong feelings vanished. Like a thunder and lightning storm, they were suddenly gone. And this was about the time when Pluto finally moved on and left my Moon alone again - forever, tat is. ;-)

I very quickly "recovered" from that mad passion.

Since then I have more and more enjoyed the single life in my new hometown, heaving light affairs with some guys, experiencing my sexual lust & power ;-), never developed strong feelings for anyone for about the following year or so ...

UNTIL ONE YEAR AFTER PLUTO HAD LEFT MY MOON: Then (Autumn 2006) I "met" someone on the internet. It all developed very slowly. And now ... we are a real couple, since last Octobre! I believe that THIS MAN could really be THE ONE. It all went very slowly and carefully ... and guess what: He is the perfect mixture of my former "boyish" boyfriend and that mad passion for that "father figure" man. My loved one is decent 5 years older than me, has a "boyish" face, but a strong and large manly body, he is working in quite a respectable position and has a very strong personality, no one to trifle with. But he's playful as well.

So ... Pluto cj. Moon somehow transformed my "animus"-ideal and made me aware of my personal needs in a relationship (probably also because my Moon is placed in the 1sthouse/7th house axis). I was looking for "more man" in my partner - and I got that now! I had to realize and admit that need for a "strong" maybe "dominant" partner first - this idea wasn't compatible with my self-image at all! Pluto showed me the way, so to speak. Now I am really happy - and feel quite secure about my choice. I feel ... safe.

All in all: Not always an easy transit - but I wouldn't want to miss it! Somehow it might have saved me! Maybe I would have been stuck in that former boring relationship with that lukewarm boyish guy and would NEVER have met my new love, if Pluto hadn't woken me up.

So: No need to afraid! Just: some adventure in self-analysis coming ahead for you! ,-)

posted February 01, 2008 07:42 PM            

I would not fear your Pluto conjunct moon transit. Pluto comes into your life to transform you. Unlike Saturn, my experience with Pluto’s version of change do not bring with it feelings of oppression and discouragement. Instead I find Pluto’s energies invigorating.

In your case, your emotional foundation, is fraught with old habits, and outdated attitudes. Pluto comes in to help you analyze the areas you need to grow in. It brings to light you weaknesses, and failings and helps you kill the things that are holding you back. Then from the ashes, your heart is reborn, new and improved, more beautiful then before.

Any time Pluto comes into your life and highlights one segment of your natal chart, you can figure you’ll see great change there. There may be some pain, but if you submit to the lesson, this change is always for the better. The key word here is “submit” I think it’s vital that you completely surrender to the idea of transformation, school yourself to look for the vital lessons Pluto is trying to offer you, make yourself look forward to the spiritual growth you will undergo. If you allow Pluto to do his work, you WILL be as the caterpillar that transforms into a butterfly, and at the end of this transit you will look back and realize you are so much more than you were.

I hope this brings you some encouragement, and hope.

Best wishes,