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Topic: Lets talk about Moon in the 12th
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writesomething
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posted January 18, 2008 09:46 AM
  
I want to know everyone and anyone with experiences with Moon in the 12th, I know what it means astrologically...but I want to hear experiences...Especially if its conj the ascendant.It doesnt have to be your own aspect..experiences with others is also welcomed. IP: Logged |
Mama Mia
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posted January 18, 2008 09:58 AM
I have 12th house moon is Aqua..Not sure what it all it means to have this position..IP: Logged |
augentier
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posted January 18, 2008 11:29 AM
the guy i want has moon in the 12th in scorpio. it's obvious that he has extreme emotions but he does not show them. he had a very rough childhood & upbringing, which has permanently affected his emotional nature.i read that moon in the 12th indicates extremes in 12th house issues, like being away from society. well this guy's in prison. boo  ------------------
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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted January 18, 2008 11:31 AM
Moon in twelfth is not suppose to be good.. it means your emotions are hidden.. this person might come off as aloof emotionally detached or just unloving. I guess maybe something of intuition or clairvoyance. but I know someone with it in the twelfth in cancer conjunct the asc and I wouldnt say they are intuitive.IP: Logged |
Mama Mia
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posted January 18, 2008 11:43 AM
The most that I can identify here is hidden emotions. I I can appear to be emotionaless at times but its only when I am in a bad place and trying to work through some things. My childhood was good lots of fun and laughter. But yeah the detachment thing with the 12th house not to mention my moon is in Aquarius that does not help much..I think my Pisces Sun helps to balance things some THANK GOD for that.. IP: Logged |
wild sheep
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posted January 18, 2008 12:01 PM
From a karmic perspective, moon in the 12th (house of karmic debt) can indicate that the mother or other significant female relative(s) represents a major karmic challenge the chart owner needs to overcome in this life cycle. Moon in the 12th (because of its connection to large institutions) can be an indicator of a not-so-great upbringing in foster/state sponsored care, or of essentially being raised in boarding schools. Getting a bit literal, there, I realize, but sometimes a moon in this house indicates not just "issues" connecting with "mom," but that these issues spawn from physical separation from primary nurturing influences in life for a variety of reasons. As others have mentioned, I think a 12th house moon's greatest significance is as an indicator of a struggle with emotional expression/clarity. One 12th house moon type I know only seems comfortable in large groups, and tends to define her identity purely in terms of her association with these groups. I've also noticed that some 12th house moons have a real problem with honesty, especially about emotional matters. (The 12th is naturally ruled by Pisces, whose ruler Neptune represents the hidden and/or deliberately concealed.) Also, 12th house is murky. If there's one thing even I have to admit is negative about it, it's that there is a part of the significance of any planet placed there that isn't meant to be understood. Someone with a 12th house moon may be cursed with an emotional personality that is diffuse, remote, and perceived by others that way. IP: Logged |
teaologist
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posted January 18, 2008 12:38 PM
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Love
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posted January 18, 2008 02:35 PM
wild sheep and teaologist ~I agree. Except about the emotional repression part...I have never been much good at consciously repressing my feelings. But everything else is pretty bang on. IP: Logged |
NeptunianFire
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posted January 18, 2008 05:16 PM
Love, is your Moon conjunct the Ascendant?IP: Logged |
Mama Mia
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posted January 18, 2008 05:25 PM
My moon and Venus and Asc all conjunct in Aquarius..IP: Logged |
yourfriendinspirit
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posted January 18, 2008 07:51 PM
My husband has both his Sun and Moon (Pisces) in the 12th umm... yah! Very , very difficult childhood. Naturally sneaky/secretive and emotions are easily detached from. I waited 10 years before I felt ready to marry him. It took this long for both he and I to get to know him, LOL!I believe this is a difficult placement in general but the rewards of such can be amazing!
Lot's of hidden gifts can be found here if nourished gently. Empathic tendencies from birth and I believe this is why they are able to emotionally detach so well... This is obviously for mental health purposes. To protect the mental/emotional state from over stimulation. ------------------
Sendin' love your way,
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wild sheep
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posted January 18, 2008 08:59 PM
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Lot's of hidden gifts can be found here if nourished gently.
Oh, I agree that moon in the 12th is a placement that over time can disclose a variety of rare gifts, usually having to do with psychism. Still, I think that takes not only decades of nourishment, but a lot of grueling work on the part of the "12ther." It's not something I think many of them are capable of. IP: Logged |
belgz
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posted January 18, 2008 09:14 PM
Very interesting topic. Im glad you asked this question. Well the guy that all of yous made a big fuss over that i wrote aboutin earlier topics had moon conjunct Asc and is very much like what everyone here said. About this quote ..
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i read that moon in the 12th indicates extremes in 12th house issues, like being away from society. well this guy's in prison. boo
Well hes actually in jail also!He has never gotten alogn with his mum and he seems very cold at times and i cant seem to understand what he ever feels. One minute he looks very detached the next hes shy and very quiet. Regardless of all of this he has had millions of gfs and aot of people are attracted to him but no girl can keep him down. He has low self esteem also. Wheni was overseas with him he was very sympathetic and would even givehis last money to people who had no money and would help out all of his friends and poeple off the street who were poor. He seems like he ha a wonderful heart but noone can quite understand him and he needs to be encouraged to talk and open up otherwise he gets shy. HE smiles quietly alot and doesnt deliberately hurt anyone. His mums a mess and has been married over 5 times and spoils her son but has a very big influence on him. For some reason he has never gotten along with his mother in the tradtional wayu like anyone else would. He loves sitting at home though hes been out and was a bit of a problem child he was always home on time and never slept out of home. HE has a virgo moon conjunct his virgo Asc from 12th.
Is a libra with sun conjunct mercury, saturn and jupiter in first. ------------------
ASC: Virgo Sun: Cancer
Moon: Gemini
Mars: Cancer
Mercury: Cancer
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libraschoice7
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posted January 18, 2008 09:18 PM
I agree with you on that Teaologist, its true that no one does understand us 12th house moon people(accept other 12th housers)and our deep complicated emotional nature which seems to run a muck to many times. Being an emotional tuning fork is not my idea of fun either, picking up on other peoples sadness and pain...hence wanting to be away from others. We come across the wrong way to people, which is not intentional...we may appear unloving or uncaring when it is just the opposite.------------------
Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer "I seem to have the blind self-acceptance of the eccentric who can't conceive that his eccentricities are not clearly understood" IP: Logged |
LeoCat
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posted January 19, 2008 02:24 AM
I dated a 12H mooner. He was very romantically and emotionally detached and lied a lot, about little things but these little white lies seemed to come very easily to him and he didn't seem to feel any guilt about them. Most of the time I don't even think he realized he did it. He was extremely sensitive but you would never know it as he was very good at turning off his emotions, you had to really know him to know they were there. I never met anybody so detached in my whole life, i just couldn't handle it anymore. I need intensity and passion, I mean, who wants to date a person like this? It was confusing and I can't be passionate about anything that lacks passion. And he was very attached to his mother. I'm not saying all 12H mooners are like this but that was my experience anyway. IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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posted January 19, 2008 03:55 AM
Moon in 12th has some similarities with Moon in Pisces and Moon-Neptune aspects.
Nelson Mandela has Moon in Scorpio in 12th.
Shirley MacLaine has Moon conj Neptune in Virgo in 12th.
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Love
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posted January 19, 2008 04:19 AM
My Moon is not conjunct the Ascendant, but it is conjunct Jupiter and square Mars (in Leo, House 4) so I think that could be a large part of the reason I cannot detach so well.In fact, my boyfriends have always been super at being cold when necessary whereas I lack that skill. And believe me, when you're an emotional tuning fork, like libraschoice mentioned, it's like a fantasy some days for me to imagine being able to shut it off for a bit. IP: Logged |
triplecancer
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posted January 19, 2008 11:09 AM
My moon is in the 12th conjunct my ascendant by an 8 degree orb. I also have sun in the 12th. I am extremely emotional, and sometimes wish I could be more detached. The first impression I give people is that of a reserved kind of cold person. But after they get to know me and find out who I am they see that I am very sensitive and caring. I am very sociable but I also need time alone, especially when I am sad and depressed, then I need to be alone. I'm not the one who calls a friend to have a shoulder to cry on, I never call.
My mom is very nurturing but has a very difficult personality and can be very aggresive at the same time. She also has health problems and needs a lot of care from my part. It's almost as if I were her mother. It's a complex relationship.
I'm not a psychic but I'm intuitive. I'm also compassionate and very empathetic. Other people's suffering is my suffering, so sometimes I feel overwhelmed by feelings.
I read somewhere that people with 12 house moons many times pursue careers in writing and politics. It's not my case. I never considered myself a good writer and I'm not very interested in politics.IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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posted January 19, 2008 11:44 AM
I read that 12th house is serve or suffer. Its a house of chronic sickness according to Noel Tyl, but it's a house associated with charity,compassion. A lot of people who do have chronic health problems do turn to spirituality. A lot of people who have chronic health problems even use those experiences to be compassionate for others. according to KEYWORDS OF ASTROLOGY
by Hajo Banzhaf and Anna Haebler Moon in 12th house Longing for Redemption STRENGTH: The Sensitive Spirit. Great sensitivity for everything that "lies in the air." Frequently occuring tendency to withdraw into seclusion and stillness in order to meditate, collect mystic and transcendental experiences, and come into harmony with oneself. Feels strongly drawn to everything that is vast, eternal,and irrational. Great yearning to be redeemed. PROBLEM AREA: The Emotionally Numb. Is not conscious of emotions and only numbness when one asks oneself what one feels. Perhaps even has the impression of having no feelings at all or unconsciously keeps them hidden (even from oneself) so one is not hurt. Extremely unwilling to suffer. Remains a mystery to oneself for a long time. Cannot mature emotionally and remains very naive and infantile on this level. Danger of uncontrolled intoxication because of vast but conscious desires for deliverance. FINDS IN SECLUSION:One's dreams and feelings.
Not only do I have Moon in Pisces square Neptune, but I also have Moon trine 12th house ruler(Sun).
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LeoCat
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posted January 19, 2008 02:56 PM
Triple Cancer, that's interesting, the guy I dated with the 12H Moon had a very sick mother also. IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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posted January 19, 2008 03:13 PM
My mother is very sick with Diabetes,Hepatitis C,and history of mental illness(Anxiety,Depression,PTSD) as well as recovering drug addict/alcoholicFits with My Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of Retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius. Moon trine 12th house ruler. She has Sun in Gemini in 12th trine Neptune in Libra in 5th,sextile/parallel Pluto in Leo in 3rd,semisextile/parallel Uranus in Cancer in 2nd,and quincunx Moon in Scorpio in 5th. IP: Logged |
augentier
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posted January 19, 2008 03:33 PM
The guy I kknow with 12th house moon , his mother abandoned him when he was 2 so he never really had a mom. 12th house moon working?------------------
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Glaucus
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posted January 19, 2008 04:03 PM
yeah......Moon in 12th can be an indicator of loss of mother with 12th house as house of loss and Moon as mother.IP: Logged |
Love
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posted January 19, 2008 07:01 PM
One of my ex's, who I was with for 7 years, had Moon in the 12th as well and he was adopted, so he never knew his birth mother. During the last 6 months of our relationship he met his birth mother (which is a long story which involved me finding her for him) so I can say that 12th House/mother issues are relevant.As for me, I grew up with a mother who was secretly angry at me from the time I was only one year old. She finally admitted as much to me when I was 25 when she thought she was going to die of breast Cancer. Interestingly, over my lifetime I have sort of inherited 2 more mothers who have been able to give me what my own mother is unable to offer in terms of nurturing and listening. One of these women's birthdays is May 7 and my own mother's birthday is November 7th. So yes, I would absolutely say that there are clearly defined issues surrounding abandonment and one's mother with Moon in the 12th. IP: Logged |
teaologist
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posted January 19, 2008 11:02 PM
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