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Chelle26
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posted January 21, 2008 12:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had a hellish 2 years and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what my birth chart says about drugs and mental illnes? I would really appreciate it. My DOB is 12th April 1981 2:08am Birmingham England.
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blue moon
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posted January 21, 2008 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Chelle

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Mama Mia
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posted January 21, 2008 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn return..

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Chelle26
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posted January 21, 2008 02:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen my chart and read up on it but can't see why what happened to me did!!

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posted January 21, 2008 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on that chart Pluto has been creeping up to your ascendant over the past 2 years. 2 years ago, the progressed Moon was heading for the Descendant. Natally you have a Void of Course Moon Square Pluto.

Two years ago transiting Jupiter was Square your Natal Moon and transiting Saturn was on your North Node.

Progressed MC was applying to conjoint natal Uranus.

There was a lunar eclipse at 24* Aries in March 2006 -> your Natal Venus is at 23* Aries.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-information/solar-lunar-eclipses.php

Maybe I'm not offering up anything you haven't already seen.

Why do bad things happen? Sh!t luck? Poor judgement? Ask me another.

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posted January 21, 2008 04:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drugs...your neptune is square jupiter..are you over indulgent? do you let drugs/alcohol/escapism get out of hand?

Also mercury square your ASC..maybe the way you think & communicate conflicts with the way you wish to come across or the way you think you present yourself..therefore confusing yourself about who you "are" .. with mercury in a fire sign and your sun in cap, i could definitely see that happening..i feel the same way with a scorp. ASC and a sag. mercury.

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Chelle26
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posted January 23, 2008 01:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for your replys guys you've been a big help xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Glaucus
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posted January 23, 2008 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have a very strong Neptune influence overall that indicates a high degree of sensitivity,empathy,inspiration,idealism,and imagination with a strong need to have some grounding and avoid escapism,drugs,and alcohol

Your Neptune is stationary,and that's a strong Neptune influence
it's in your 12th house which is naturally ruled by Neptune,and that's a strong Neptune influence
You have it conjunct your Ascendant,and that's a strong Neptune

you also have your Sun-Venus-Mars in Aries stellium trine your Neptune,and that's a strong Neptune influence.


I believe that people with strong Neptune influences should stay away from drugs and alcohol which are things ruled by Neptune. They should have positive Neptune outlets that involve inspiration,creativity,compassion,and/or spirituality. You can be in relationships with people who are involved in those things.

You have your Sun-Mercury-Venus in Aries in 3rd oppose Pluto in 9th,and your Moon in Cancer in 7th squares that opposition that indicates possible issues dealing with intensity,transformational experiences that involve feelings,relationships/partnerships,religious/philosphical
views,and communications/thinking. There could be a history of trust issues that stem from betrayals in the past. Things can be taken too personally as feelings can be easily hurt and that could have a significant effect on relationships. These could fit in with mental illness,psychological problems. Pluto is very psychological. It is a planet of subterranean depths. With your strong Pluto energy, it can indicate possible psychological problems, but it can also indicate an ability for psychological insight. You make a good counselor if you control your boundaries well.

Another thing...with that t-square, it would be best to avoid partners who are too intense,controlling,jealous,intense,and/or having power issues. Especially with the Pluto oppose Sun-Venus-Mercury,you need to stay away from abusive relationships including especially ones that are bunch of mind games. You can be in a deep,intense,passionate relationship with somebody who is a catalyst and helps you evolve.

Your Mercury oppose Jupiter-Saturn.....that's an aspect that can thoughts ranging from optimistic to pessimistic. Hard aspects to Jupiter can excessive optimism,grandiosity which can seem to be manic. Hard aspects to Saturn can be limiting,restricting and seem to be depressive.
The positives are that you can have thinking that is both realistic,expansive. It can be great for coming up with good ideas and having the ability to put them to practical uses.

I also checked kuiper belt objects in your chart. Those are objects that orbit beyond Neptune. Pluto is also considered a kuiper belt object.

You have the plutino,Orcus conjunct your Moon with 57 minutes of arc, parallel your Sun with 8 minutes of arc,and quincunx your Ascendant with 40 minutes of arc. That could indicate more intensity,transformation as well as psychological insight.

Orcus is named after the Roman God of Death. As you know, Death can be a symbolic thing as well as a transformation.


I also couldn't help noticing your Nessus aspects. Nessus is a centaur like Chiron. Nessus is thought to link Saturn and Pluto.
Nessus seems to relate to "bad blood" both literally and figuratively. It can be lusty too. Nessus is kinda seen as the bad boy of the centaurs.

Your Nessus squares your Mars with only 1 minute of arc and squares your Sun with 2'05 orb. I definitely would stay away from those "bad boys" and from ones that could you end up having problems getting along with.


It's possible that your mental illness could also have been a spiritual breakthrough. Some mental illnesses are like that. Robert Hand wrote stuff like that when he was writing about Pluto.

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posted January 26, 2008 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Chelle,
hang in there! I've had a rough two years too, but I'm still hoping it will get better...
I was born on April 6, 1981, Libra asc, so we share a lot of aspects, especially that Pluto opposition.
Hugs, maira.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted January 26, 2008 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He Chelle,

Over the last 2 years transiting Pluto has been conjunct your Natal Neptune. To briefly repeat what Glaucus so clearly and brilliantly explained, Neptune rules drugs, alcohol, poisons, fogginess, illusion, escapism into illusion. Pluto conjunct Neptune in your 12th house has affected your health and your sense of self-worth. My thought is that you may have been dealing with or blocking out having to deal with certain events that occurred in your early childhood.

You have Saturn opposite Mercury and that is a classic signature of depression. That doesn't mean you have to be depressed forever, you'll see as you get older that it is also a classic signature of great wisdom, that depression turns around to wisdom.

There are huge issues here with your Mom and Dad and your Mother making you feel guilty. She may compete with you and be very intrusive into your life.

Just like Glaucus said, and you seem to know already from your experiences, you need to stay away from drugs and alcohol, do your best to stick to the positive forms of Neptunian energy. Good luck and all the best to you.

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