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amisha121877
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posted January 22, 2008 05:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
found dead in NY today.

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augentier
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posted January 22, 2008 05:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's so sad..

that chart is WAY too tiny to read

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amisha121877
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posted January 22, 2008 05:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know, my bad - i wish i could learn how to make them bigger. could someone tell me how so i could repost it?

i know it's becoming a sick interest of mine that i've mysteriously started - looking at transits and birthcharts of people the day they die.

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posted January 22, 2008 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the data, I'll give it a go?

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aqua inferno
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posted January 22, 2008 05:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he was born 79! good lord

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amisha121877
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posted January 22, 2008 05:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i put a time of 12:00 noon born april 4th, 1979 in Perth, austrialia. when i looked at it, the gem ascendant and sun in 10th seem right to me.

p.s. i still want to learn how to post bigger chart pictures.

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SagSun
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posted January 22, 2008 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is so tragic!!!

Didn't he and his girlfriend just recently have a baby girl together??? I feel so sorry for them...

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posted January 22, 2008 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. That wasn't what I was expecting at all when I opened this thread.

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blue moon
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posted January 22, 2008 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

He has a daughter aged 2. Poor little thing.

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esperance
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posted January 22, 2008 05:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is so sad.

You know it means so much to us Aussies when the news reporter is trying to cover up the cracking in her voice.

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posted January 22, 2008 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in shock. How awful.

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Green Fairy
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posted January 22, 2008 06:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was in the process of taking a divorce, he was actually dating some model lately.

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Green Fairy
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posted January 22, 2008 06:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.astrotheme.fr/en/portraits/rQezNc74f32R.htm

His chart in Astrotheme

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blue moon
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posted January 22, 2008 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's never been married.

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Green Fairy
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posted January 22, 2008 06:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, separation then.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted January 22, 2008 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heath Ledger was just at the tail end of the Solar Arc Neptune=Pluto suggesting - The supernatural; other realms seem to be involved with life occurrences; unusual problems; peculiar experiences; possible concerns about death matters; creative enterprise.

Neptune suggests the drugs. He was also in the middle of his Saturn Return, not saying that Saturn Return killed him, but he just received his 2nd hit of Saturn to natal Saturn and transiting Saturn is opposing his natal Venus in Pisces, Pisces being another suggestion of the drug issue. Was he in the middle of another break up with someone, especially since this would be the 2nd pass of Saturn to Venus?

They say he had just finished having a massage, why did he take sleeping pills. Perhaps he was having a hard time relaxing.

Transiting Neptune quindecile natal Jupiter. I had a thought that perhaps his ASC was Sagittarius since transiting or Solar Arc Pluto conjunct ASC usually figures so prominantly in suicide. It would make sense that Jupiter rules his ASC, with Neptune exactly quindecile his Jupiter, ruler of the health center ASC, and Pluto possibly crossing that Aries Point ASC (part of what might make him prominent) this is a valid argument for a late 29 degree Sagittarius ASC.

That would just be scenario one as I am just gaining the courage to rectify charts. I don't even know if I'm making much sense, I'm just in so much shock over this. He was just such an active hands on father, but he has been in the news a lot having relationships with several actresses and breaking up, it's just so sad.

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posted January 22, 2008 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The interesting thing is that if you set his chart for 10:24 PM, it gives him an ASC of 29 degrees 51 minutes, which is where Pluto is right now. That puts his 8th house cusp in Cancer. It then puts his Jupiter, ruler of his ASC IN the 8th house of death.

So now we have transiting Neptune quindecile Jupiter (ASC ruler in 8th).

Pluto conjunct ASC

Transiting Saturn conjunct Saturn
Transiting Saturn opposite Venus. Venus would be the ruler of the other health center, the 6th house.

I'm just guessing all of this stuff based on his ASC possibly being conjunct Pluto right now because that shows up a lot with Suicide.

I've had many clients over the last 3 years with Sagittarius ASC and they were, of course, under lots of pressure. Many divorces, many health issues, and knock wood, no deaths.

I'm just in shock.

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posted January 22, 2008 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or maybe he just took too much gear.

No-one will ever really know.

It's a shame whatever the reason.

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posted January 22, 2008 07:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it just weirds me out when people die under the age of 50 and it always seems like it's right before they break-out/expand in some way. after the few movies he's been in and his most recent expansive role on brokeback moutain and now with the new batman coming soon where he plays joker and the fact that he has a 2 year old daughter - it just seems like it's just really unfortunate.

i figured the gem asc worked in sense because it makes the transitting north node in his eighth house as well as the transitting neptune and chiron (very heavy, as far as i'm concerned) and his deep venus in pisces in 9th house, just about conjunct the north node so he could have been craving a lofty higher realm of existence. it was fateful somehow. transitting uranus in 9th house conjuncts his natal mars which conjuncts his MC - maybe he wasn't satisfied with the image and/or his acting career and wanted to change it but felt the thought of it was moving faster than his physical self. mercury transitting the 8th house speaks volumes since his death is being talked about right now which is going to bring to light the projects he was working on (natal jupiter). transitting moon in leo is in 1st house about to conjunct his jupiter in 2nd which could bring about a solemn feeling to what he has - like it's not enough or frustration for not having what he wanted. i'm reading his quotes where he says "I feel like I'm wasting time if I repeat myself. I can't say I'm proud of my work. It's the same with everything I do: the day I say 'It's good' is the day I should start doing something else." which gives me a sense that he is use to the feeling that there is still more to do. he didn't plan on remaining an actor for the rest of his life - he wanted to do more. this full moon was a strong one, as well. plus, i also notice a lot of people who are in the limelight have either the moon or the sun in the 10th house. chiron in 8th could be really hard to swallow - chiron is very deep so maybe he had been thinking about it for a while - so the heaviness and frustration had been there for a while. i think the moon triggering his jupiter in 2nd may have made him think that he didn't have much to live for anymore, that he wish there were more to do or maybe it scared him that there was more to come or his plans were going to be harder to pull off or they would have to be put on hold - again. plus the transitting south node is in the end of the 2nd house. natal uranus in 5th would make it hard for someone to settle down (marriage) and probably have various interests. mars in 1st house is slowing a lot down - it makes one feel like change isn't coming fast enough and that one is working too hard with nothing to show for it - this is very hard on a natal moon. pluto opposing 1st house could make him feel that although his relationship with others is changing - that he was not ready for the transformation that would have taken place once mars went direct in his first house, to his image as it was probably not what he was seeking. then again, pluto and jupiter may have been triggering some really key meetings with people who thought this was going to be his break-out and were willing to support him as an actor, this was going to be his time - maybe it was just too much pressure because it's not necessarily what he wanted (pluto opposing moon in 1st), the change of mind wasn't kicking in - gemini ascendant making his progress cancer ascendant - maybe he was going to start doing something else that he been wanting to do for a long time which so happened to be something other than acting and how could he let those who thought this was his "time", down. saturn return in his 3rd house was the chance for him to stand up to the "if it's good, it's time for him to do something else". i think the transitting mars with the wait and all and the north node/neptune/chiron/mercury in 8th house really put a lot of strain on his plans and his self-worth.

i don't know - i have to think about sag being the ascendant - i still feel the gemini ascendant. I'm not a chart reader - i'll think on the sagittarius ascendant though.

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posted January 22, 2008 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. They didn't even take his body out of the apartment yet and the frickin' Paparazzi is in the way of the authorities trying to do their jobs. What are they doing, waiting around hoping to get a picture of poor body? Leeches.

R.I.P. Heath.

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posted January 22, 2008 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow this is shocking to read, I was expecting something about his natal chart...not about his unexpected death

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Planet_Soul
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posted January 22, 2008 09:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my God, I am so shocked. I thought this thread would be about how intersting he is/was, not that he is gone. I loved him as an actor, especially in Four Feathers.

RIP, Heath

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posted January 23, 2008 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait are we talking Heath Ledger as in the Actor who plays in feature films such as Knights tale and Brokeback Mountain?

that is crazy!!!

how did he go? how old was he? god he must have been young.

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posted January 23, 2008 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Horrible.

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posted January 23, 2008 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, he was 28. This such a tragedy. He was a very talented actor and apparently an excellent father. It's surreal to think that we're living in a world with one less beautiful person. It makes you appreciate life so much more.

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