posted January 26, 2008 01:14 AM              

I wasn't able to use the links you provided because I guess there is a 4 hour timer and I saw your post too late. I can't believe you took the time to do that! Wow! I'm just sorry it was in vain, since I came to the party too late! BUT...I did go to some of the sites to take a look. I haven't been to most of those sites before...I could have sworn I had found every synastry site on the planet! lol Anyway, it's always cool to find new info.

However, there is something I want to bring to your attention. When I looked at the aspects listed on the Starmatch site, they were simply incorrect...seriously! They only had a few of the aspects right. I couldn't see what they had calculated for each of our charts and planet positions, so I don't know what exactly went askew (I went back and double-checked the birth data I entered and it was correct). So, I don't know whether this was just a fluke or something. But really...they were just dead wrong.

They had my venus trine his mars and vice versa for a double whammy...and as much as I would love to claim this aspect as my own, it just isn't so! lol

Me:
Venus 7 Aquarius 58
Mars 1 Aries 54

Him:
Venus 0 Pisces 52
Mars 10 Capricorn 42

Most of the other aspects were wrong, too. I just wanted to bring this to your attention, because if this is a site you use often, you might want to make sure they are getting the planet positions correct.

As for the other sites, I thought that 3D astrology was pretty accurate. Actually, I have the full-length report that I paid for about a month ago! lol The rest of the report is pretty accurate, too. Btw... that compatiblerelationships.com report that had us at 71%...do you happen to know what aspects they are looking at? I'm always curious about the soulmate connection stuff, because I DO think we have some of these aspects.

As for the Neptune stuff...yes, I think you are definitely right that this is something to look out for. The other thing is that we BOTH have moon opposed neptune natally, and since our moons are essentially conjunct through our saturn-moon conjunctions (which we ALSO both have natally) this shows up in both synastry and the composite. So, I think it's an energy we have both been dealing with in our own lives, and I hope that means we may be able to handle it together, too. Although, I think the potential is there for it to be exacerbated! (Yikes!) But again, with saturn there conjunct both our moons, I'm hoping a dose of reality is injected into the mix once in a while! *fingers crossed* lol

So, please know that I REALLY do appreciate all your hard work. I hope you don't think I'm being some sort of ingrate by pointing out the problems with that one report. I just really thought you should know. Ttyl!

posted January 26, 2008 02:29 AM            

For Starmatch's case, this website's founders have based their matchmaking rating system and reports on research completely, so I assure you that they can be trusted. Well, at least they say it is based on research, lol. But, look, I have been doing many many birthdates in their rating system thingy and I gotta tell you, there is def something to it! Especially to those reports, too! The reports are dead on.... What they describe as a starmatch solar aspect is, they explain, an aspect which they have verified which does exist...they have their own formula to calculate when it does..and they should know the reason why this happens. What they label traditinoal aspect in the report is your everyday astrological aspect which they include in the report along with those certain ones which they have found still exist in your match despite what traditinal astrology says. Remember, everything about them is based on research, oh and complicated formulas!--they say.
From my experience, the rating actually mostly shows how similar your inner personality is with that person's. It doesn't necessarily mean that you'll experience harmony with them, but it does mean you will feel totally like they share your dreams, hopes, fears, and aspirations, too, oh and sense of humor and sense of reasoning, too! It's not to say their way of being personally, or their personaly habits may not annoy you, though, so yeah, sometimes it can be a little disappointing in that sense. But, listen, for the people who have had an 11 in in love, for example, we had the same exact image of what an ideal relatinoship should be like in our heads, and we also approached relatinoships in the same way! Not to mention affection and romanticness and the amount of freedom we lent ourselves and everything. We smiply had the same style of loving, and our needs matched!

For people who i ahd straight 11s with, omg.... We were so similar~! Yet, some were quiet, some were loud and rambunctious, and those annoyed me. But even though their external ways of being annoyed me, we sure had so many things in common when we looked at our opinions and our dreams, hopes, and fears. We also had similar insecurities (but not TOO similar that it's uncomfortable or boring, though) and similar pet peeves and senses of humor, too.

For compatiblerelationships, this is what it says in the report and that is all I know, hun: "Never discount the vibes exchanged on a Spiritual Level. Also, remember this has nothing to do with astrology, ascending signs and the like. You can only find your spirit vibrations through the CompatibleRelationships program."

The only other thing I know is that this website was made by a Cancer lady (she has a bio page on her site) and she owns another site about reiki (also deals with energy). So, you know what, I would imagine that this site probably does its "energy" calculations through someting reiki-related. It might have to do with something they found out that no one else really knows.

The same goes for tpsynergy for example. This guy, I knew his site since when he had just started it, and he said on it that he got the formula for the report by channeling an ANCIENT famous dead guy who was supposed to have a LOT of hidden knowledge. I don't remember his name now, but i remmber i looked him up on wikipedia, and saw the dead guys drawing. He was dressed in like victorian clothing. Also, I remember the guy who made the stie and applied the formula mentioning something like ..oh here we go! I just looked it up on google and here's exactly what i am referring to. The formula he uses is based on the "Cosmodynes (Astrodynes) astrological theory" and he channeled someone he calls "Maimonides (RAMBAM)" ?? yes, very strange! Here is where he says that http://www.topsynergy.net/q-you-ask-we-answer/493-psychic-phenomenon.html

posted January 26, 2008 03:05 AM            

I have Aries ruling the 6th so I can just search and search till all of infinity till I am absolutely positive that I have gotten all of what I was looking for.

These are the sites (the actually useful ones! hehe..there is some load of crap out there. Usually the popular ones, I find, are just useless to me. Except for cafeastrology, though, that site I love.) that I have found in my non-stopping months of exhaustive searching on google! http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkP8395Mm4ymLK_V2_MCrzIAAAAA;_ylv=3?qid=20080113084343AA9HZV1

posted January 26, 2008 02:42 PM              

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If it isnt ment for people to be looking in on and your just conversing with one person it shouldnt be on the public forum.

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posted January 26, 2008 04:49 PM              

I just DO NOT understand how Starmatch can say that a planet at 7 Aquarius 58 is TRINE another planet at 10 Capricorn 42. The definition of a trine is planets/points making an 120 degree aspect to each other. I would understand if it was a situation where they were talking about planets that are trine by orb but not by sign, or the reverse: trine by sign but not orb. But, I just don't find any validity to saying that these planetary positions form a TRINE...they're semi-sextile and that's not even close!

Maybe if they used the terms "flowing aspect" and "hard aspect" (something along those lines), that would be better. But to use the incorrect terminology and/or to say their calculations are based on some "supersecret formula" is very problematic for me. (And I don't even have any planets in Virgo!!! lol)

Another thing: one of the other sites listed the compatibility as low...but it didn't ask for birth times and it didn't even know which sign each of our moons is in. I'm sorry, but I have a hard time taking that seriously. It seems about as specific as the horoscopes in the newspaper.

Before it starts sounding like I am only objecting to the "bad" reports, don't forget that Star Match had us with venus-mars, mars-venus trines, which are considered great aspects in synastry...but they are aspects that my SO and I simply do not have!!!

Btw...I hit that download button and it said the file expired after 4 hours, just fyi.

posted January 26, 2008 09:45 PM            

In my opinion astrotouch looks at the kinds of aspects you have in your synastry and makes an assumption on the kind of relatinoship it will produce base don pre-cut groups of aspects they have stored to compare it to. If you sign up like I did, you'll see it says this in some of the reports they show. Then again cafeastrology's synastry tool doesn't use birth times either and it's still able to incorporate every other aspect such as venus and mars aspects, and sun and venus, and uranus, and jupiter aspects, etc. I think they don't look at the moon because it gets too specific and a general assumption could be made pretty accurately even without the moon.

I think starmatch simply found another way to get an aspect, and still make it work validly. I think there are many ways to get to the same thing, and I think, if starmatch really has followed through with its research, there is no harm in trying to add to astrology by trying to make work for you and others something they (starmatch) have found to be valid.

posted January 27, 2008 01:39 AM              

I'll tell you this...you're right about my feeling uneasy right now. Honestly, he didn't even do anything but I'm irritated and kind of frustrated with him right now. I really need to get a grip before I talk to him again or he's gonna wonder what the hell hit him!

Actually, I'm just kinda all-around grumpy at the moment. Astrologically-speaking, transiting pluto is about to square my mars and set of my natal mars-sun-pluto t-square. It ain't gonna be pretty. It's either that or pms! lol