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summerdream
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posted February 01, 2008 08:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune square Sun in both synastry and composite. I have heard that the one with Neptune square your Mercury can be outright lying to you. How about Neptune square Sun or Venus in terms of lying probability?

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CoralFrequency
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posted February 01, 2008 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune is never *outright* lying in my experience.. It signifies a lot of confusion with absolutely nothing coming across as – outright. No one knows what exactly is happening or who lied to whom, or even if they did actually lie and why..

For instance you could tell the truth thinking it is.. and later find out it was a lie or vice versa.. Or the other person may just misunderstand what you said and later accuse you of lying.

I can't help much in distinguishing between Mercury and Sun.. because I had a Sun/Merc conj square Neptune in composite and Sun square Neptune double whammies in syanstry.

When it comes to Venus and Mars.. I don't think this would be as difficult to deal with.

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posted February 02, 2008 12:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say that it would be Neptune-Mercury square or opposition that would cause many misunderstandings and confusion that could be perceived as lies. It has to do with communication.

Neptune square or opposing personal planets really can damage relationships. I know a couple with Neptune opposition Moon and their relationship suffers because of it..this describes it perfectly..

Neptune opposition Moon:
What does it mean to your relationship when your Neptune is in opposition to your partner's Moon? You want to fit him/her into your romantic ideal which makes it difficult for your partner to express his/her true feelings. If your partner's Neptune is in opposition to your Moon, he/she doesn't fit your idealization of your romantic expectations. Idealism, fantasy, and imagination permeate the atmosphere between you and your desire leads you to believe what you want to believe. Your souls are spiritually linked, but you have two different approaches to romance and relationship and these are reasons you are together to work it out.

Cafeastrology says it like this:

Opposition Moon - Neptune

Negative aspect: This union will be full of illusions and disappointments. They will find it difficult to understand each other. Unfaithfulness and lies are on the agenda.

Ouch.

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blue moon
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posted February 02, 2008 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are going to be a fair few people born in the mid-60s whose Neptune natally falls opposite my Mercury (in Taurus). Given Venus' close proximity, she is quite likely to be hit, too.

Just like I don't expect a large number of people I meet to fall in love with me (and I am likely to meet a few born in the mid-60s), I don't assume they are motivated to lead me astray with a pack of lies for the hell of it.

But if the orb was close and personal planets got involved I might take note. I'd want to see how it tied into the whole chart, though.

I do have friend whose Neptune Opposes my Mercury at 3 degrees and personal planets get involved. He is inclined to cover things by making things up that sound better than reality. On the other hand, I tend to be quite blunt and forthright. Words have been said between us. But opposites attract and somewhere in all this there is a lesson.

Sun Square Neptune will have its own lesson, but it isn't necessarily a relationship death knell.

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posted February 02, 2008 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would really make an effort to avoid relationships with hard aspects between Neptune and the Sun or Neptune and Venus/Mercury. Maybe there are scenarios in which people who have those aspects won't be lying to each other, (constantly, pathologically) but there are lots of relationships in which that's exactly what they'll do to each other. And is there anything worse than relationships in which honest, open communication cannot take place?

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posted February 02, 2010 04:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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